Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I don't think price is the only thing that needs to change, but it's absolutely true that alcohol can be bought very cheaply here.

Utter bollocks

Alcohol in Ireland is the second dearest in the EU

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I don't think price is the only thing that needs to change, but it's absolutely true that alcohol can be bought very cheaply here

sully123 wrote: »

Article suggests 1.32 for a can of beer.
What's the workings behind that?

I got it. Tesco lager 440ml can 3.8%.
2.64 for a 4 pack.
So...
440*3.8*.789=1319
=13.2 grams of alcohol
*10c per gram equals €1.32

That's what the article is quoting.
Misleading people as the most common cans are 500ml @ 4.3% = €1.69

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

going by those figures the price of cheap lagers will increase to nearly the price of "premium" lagers like Heineken.

Seems that way and I assume that sales can no longer come in below the new minimum pricing.

Honestly will just go North from now on - between not allowing vouchers to be used anymore and making us the most expensive place to drink in the EU - time to give the British gov some of my money instead.

Who is really driving all this - I mean there must be a group of lunatics somewhere behind the scenes, those sad sorry types that have few to no friends and hate anything anyone does that may constitute having fun.

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Alcohol Action Ireland

The "Independent" (almost entirely government funded) charity

So a government funded charity - tax payer funded charity - is now a lobbying group with the power to **** with all of us.

Well I'll have to raise this the next time a politician calls by the door. We all should. This is really a joke.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

going by those figures the price of cheap lagers will increase to nearly the price of "premium" lagers like Heineken.

Of course the 'premium brands won't increase prices according to the government just the 'cheaper' brands lol

Going to be major increses in prices and no sales possible below the floor

Guinness can 4.2% €1.66 minimum

Slab €39.77 minimum

Timistry wrote: »

This is madness. I was up north on Saturday and plenty of Irish cars up there. I got 18 Coronas for 13 euro. say no more....

The same Coronas will now be 330×0.045x.0.789= 11.72 grams of alcohol

1.17 minimum x 18 = €21.09

62% increase when MUP comes in here

sully123 wrote: »

Article suggests 1.32 for a can of beer.
What's the workings behind that?

I was going to say they found a 3.345% beer somewhere but I'll presume Sully has it right with a small 440ml pretty weak 3.8% can!

ml * 0.78924 g/ml * ABV * 0.1 €/g = € MUP

500ml @ 4.3% = €1.70 (Bud I think)
500ml @ 5% = €1.97 (Heineken I think)
500ml @ 5.6% = €2.21 (my own favourite beer currently €2.09 in local supermarket)
750ml @ 12% = €7.10 (wine on the weak side)
750ml @ 15% = €8.88 (wine on the strong side)
700ml @ 37.5% = €20.72 (minimum strength vodka e.g. Smirnoff)
700ml @ 40% = €22.10 (spirits in general)

FTR If I budgeted myself €20/annum on booze for the last few years I'd have change left over and I still think this is scandalous. I actual think the (un)intended consequences will be that:
A) problem drinkers will just spend even more on alcohol
people will drink more as it will be much easier to get alcohol at the minimum price rather then having to avoid the local offie and remember to make the trip to a supermarket before you start drinking unless you want to overpay. Or iow you may as well grab a slab or three and bring it home for an after hours session cause it's the same price as you would get it anywhere else anyway.

If this was really thanks to AAI and the like then we would have them change to a "high enough" c/g rate of duty. This is being done for the alcohol trade and therefore trying to help cement in place our unusual relationship with alcohol. The pubs are hoping that closing the gap between the price of cans and pints will have them selling more pints and if they make off sales they will also get more of that (from people who have already been drinking). The off licenses (as opposed to general stores who sell alcohol) are presuming they will increase their sales and profits as people will use them rather then only stocking up with the rest of their shopping.

The supermarkets probably don't really care too much as while they will presumably lose out on volume they are going to be forced into taking a much larger margin on the sales they make. I'm tempted to print out some labels and put them up on the shelves of my local supermarket to show the proposed MUP prices (before things which aren't the cheapest currently increase their prices to try and maintain the perception of price Vs quality).

sully123 wrote: »

Two things I like to drink.
Typical beer like Heineken €1
- new price 1.70.
Typical gin like Gordon's maybe €18
-new price 21.70

Beer up by 70%
Gin up by 21%

How might this affect my drinking habits....
More gin!

Where do you buy Heineken for 1 euro

sully123 wrote: »

Tesco, but by the slab

Would it be there every week 24 cans for 24 euro because I have never seen it down here in my local tesco

kerryjack wrote: »

Would it be there every week 24 cans for 24 euro because I have never seen it down here in my local tesco

Most weeks in one of the big supermarkets - think lidl had slabs of some beers down at 20 euro only a few weeks ago.

kerryjack wrote: »

Would it be there every week 24 cans for 24 euro because I have never seen it down here in my local tesco

Last weekend it was.
Should be again for the next Bank Holiday if we make it that far.

A Nordie lad that works in my company is about to become Mister popular as he’s going to take orders from staff and bring down a car load of cheaper drink regularly.
I always try to buy local but they can get stuffed on this front.

odyssey06 wrote: »

No, I haven't heard anything to suggest that. Nothing to do with lockdown, it was permanent removal of all such offers and discounts, or for example, earning loyalty points for alcohol purchases, planned pre-covid.

Thats sad - so in a year this random bunch of lunatics under this Gov will have:

- Removed multibuy deals
- Removed the earning of and use of vouchers for alcohol
- Brought in minimum unit pricing
- Hidden the Off licence behind barriers (Great having to touch these in covid times)


And their sh1t little charity/lobby group is funded by the tax payer getting screwed by this.