The prom (COVID closed 31 March 2020, reopened 18 May)

fergiesfolly · 01-05-2021 11:07am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

The pictures, especially the lower right one, really say it all: F-you pedestrians. Get on bicycles if you want to be here at all.

The top two photos....there's the footpath all along the prom.
Do you want the footpath alongside the road, with exhaust fumes and engine noise???

I don't get your objections.
Honestly OBumble, you sound as bad as some of the cycling fanatics on here sometimes. There space for everyone.
There's clearly space in those photos for everyone.

Fitz* · 01-05-2021 2:08pm

Not sure where to put this, but there is going to be portaloos installed in the sparch for 16 weeks to ensure that there are facilities available throughout the summer months for outdoor / takeaway dining and pints.

They will be open from 7am to 10pm daily.

There will be additional facilities added at Ravens Terrace, Mill St car park and Toft Park next week.

They will be both Standard and wheelchair accessible facilities.

From Mike Hubbard's face book. Sounds like he is behind it. Fair play to him. Much needed.

fergiesfolly · 01-05-2021 3:11pm

Fitz* wrote: »

Not sure where to put this, but there is going to be portaloos installed in the sparch for 16 weeks to ensure that there are facilities available throughout the summer months for outdoor / takeaway dining and pints.

They will be open from 7am to 10pm daily.

There will be additional facilities added at Ravens Terrace, Mill St car park and Toft Park next week.

They will be both Standard and wheelchair accessible facilities.

From Mike Hubbard's face book. Sounds like he is behind it. Fair play to him. Much needed.

Good idea, but I hope they get some that aren't those pig ugly blue plastic huts you see at festivals.
Extra bins and regular collection and maintenance as well please.

saabsaab · 01-05-2021 7:14pm

Those plans would need to be well future proofed to cope with the expected sea level rise. Underground car parks?

01-05-2021 8:08pm

saabsaab wrote: »

Those plans would need to be well future proofed to cope with the expected sea level rise. Underground car parks?

Long term, there's going to be a sea wall built

Mrs OBumble · 01-05-2021 8:12pm

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Good idea, but I hope they get some that aren't those pig ugly blue plastic huts you see at festivals.
Extra bins and regular collection and maintenance as well please.

In fairness, there is huge demand for these at the moment, and limited supply

Any colour and prettiness will be most welcome at this point.

Mrs OBumble · 02-05-2021 7:34pm

fergiesfolly wrote: »

The top two photos....there's the footpath all along the prom.
Do you want the footpath alongside the road, with exhaust fumes and engine noise???

I don't get your objections.
Honestly OBumble, you sound as bad as some of the cycling fanatics on here sometimes. There space for everyone.
There's clearly space in those photos for everyone.

You're missing the point.

Those computer-generated images are of carefully chosen places, and for the most part are missing pedestrians: all three major modes (four-wheeler, two-wheeler and foot) need to be represented all along the route

There are equally spaces along the Salthill seafront where there is not enough space for grade-separated lanes for each mode, unless a significant amount of space is removed from pedestrians. Here are some other pics - I snipped from Streetview rather than taking my own, so I didn't have to blur the people out.

And that's without mentioning the totally inadequate provision for bus-stop and shelters in the area: most stops are effectively out in the middle of the carriageway.

fergiesfolly · 02-05-2021 8:47pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

You're missing the point.

Those computer-generated images are of carefully chosen places, and for the most part are missing pedestrians: all three major modes (four-wheeler, two-wheeler and foot) need to be represented all along the route

There are equally spaces along the Salthill seafront where there is not enough space for grade-separated lanes for each mode, unless a significant amount of space is removed from pedestrians. Here are some other pics - I snipped from Streetview rather than taking my own, so I didn't have to blur the people out.

And that's without mentioning the totally inadequate provision for bus-stop and shelters in the area: most stops are effectively out in the middle of the carriageway.

You seem to use photos that show one of the few narrow sections of footpath along the prom.
Won't the bike path be where cars currently park on the main road.
And where the path narrows at the end of the prom, where cars cannot park because of the junction, surely that entire section of path, road and junction can be engineered to ensure space for all users.

02-05-2021 9:21pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Changing from roundabout to lights should free up road space here. Even not I'm sure the space could be configured better to give space for all.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

This section is shown on two of the images you're giving out about - it shows no reduction of of pedestrian share of space and the crossing distance actually reduced.

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Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And that's without mentioning the totally inadequate provision for bus-stop and shelters in the area: most stops are effectively out in the middle of the carriageway.

There are several engineering options to solve that. Bus stop island like elsewhere in the city or yield section on the bike lane etc. The council can hire 22 active travel staff to solve the details.

02-05-2021 10:48pm

Fitz* wrote: »

Not sure where to put this, but there is going to be portaloos installed in the sparch for 16 weeks to ensure that there are facilities available throughout the summer months for outdoor / takeaway dining and pints.

They will be open from 7am to 10pm daily.

There will be additional facilities added at Ravens Terrace, Mill St car park and Toft Park next week.

They will be both Standard and wheelchair accessible facilities.

From Mike Hubbard's face book. Sounds like he is behind it. Fair play to him. Much needed.

https://twitter.com/OwenHanleyLives/status/1388845801707802626?s=19

thesandeman · 03-05-2021 1:29am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OwenHanleyLives/status/1388845801707802626?s=19

The red one will probably be the most popular.

what_traffic · 04-05-2021 2:17pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

There are equally spaces along the Salthill seafront where there is not enough space for grade-separated lanes for each mode, unless a significant amount of space is removed from pedestrians.

Your failing to take into account the Carriageway widths with this argument. They can be reduced if a two -way sea-side cycle path is to be installed. There is plenty of space - that is one of the reason's the Council were going to run with this last year. No CPO's would have been required.

Gadgetman496 · 09-06-2021 11:47am

Galway City Council looking for feedback regarding parking in Salthill.

Salthill Parking Survey:

https://www.galwaycity.ie/maintenance-strategy-projects

zell12 · 20-06-2021 4:17pm

buzz11 wrote: »

Heard today that Seamount (off Threadneedle rd) is introducing clamping to deter prom visitors from parking there, I'm not surprised, Threadneedle rd is a real bottleneck at the moment

Cars clamped in Seamount on Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun. Must be a money-maker for Apcoa

CruelSummer · 20-06-2021 7:47pm

zell12 wrote: »

Cars clamped in Seamount on Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun. Must be a money-maker for Apcoa

Thanks to this attitude, the message has been received loud and clear. Visitors are not welcome to Salthill. Most people are avoiding it like the plague this year. Videos of unruly types, clamping, fencing it off even after County travel reopened on April 12th. Trying to block people swimming in the sea to keep themselves sane. Good luck.

gordongekko · 20-06-2021 10:32pm

CruelSummer wrote: »

Thanks to this attitude, the message has been received loud and clear. Visitors are not welcome to Salthill. Most people are avoiding it like the plague this year. Videos of unruly types, clamping, fencing it off even after County travel reopened on April 12th. Trying to block people swimming in the sea to keep themselves sane. Good luck.

Wow what a self entitled rant. Imagine buying a house and not being able to park near it because some inconsiderate flute is parking across the driveway and someone still thinks you've a bad attitude 🙄

20-06-2021 11:04pm

CruelSummer wrote: »

Most people are avoiding it like the plague this year.

Strange, it had seemed quite busy...

ben.schlomo · 20-06-2021 11:28pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Strange, it had seemed quite busy...

By most I believe they meant very few, I'm interpreting but fairly sure that's it.

zell12 · 20-06-2021 11:31pm

Wait, there's a plague? Where? Who? When?

CruelSummer · 21-06-2021 12:08am

gordongekko wrote: »

Wow what a self entitled rant. Imagine buying a house and not being able to park near it because some inconsiderate flute is parking across the driveway and someone still thinks you've a bad attitude ðŸ™„

The only reason people were parking on that road was because the City Council had closed all parking and public access despite County travel reopening on April 12th. There was nowhere for anyone to park.
The attitude of people towards those who want to travel and visit Salthill has been openly hostile on this thread, even when County travel reopened. It’s clear what the agenda is by some - just make it accessible to those who can walk / cycle to it. Fair enough - as I said. Message has been received loud & clear. It is being avoided by many who would have to travel to get to it. Footfall has gone elsewhere.

21-06-2021 12:19am

CruelSummer wrote: »

The only reason people were parking on that road was because the City Council had closed all parking and public access despite County travel reopening on April 12th. There was nowhere for anyone to park.
The attitude of people towards those who want to travel and visit Salthill has been openly hostile on this thread, even when County travel reopened. It’s clear what the agenda is by some - just make it accessible to those who can walk / cycle to it. Fair enough - as I said. Message has been received loud & clear. It is being avoided by many who would have to travel to get to it. Footfall has gone elsewhere.

What a weird rant

ben.schlomo · 21-06-2021 8:29am

CruelSummer wrote: »

The only reason people were parking on that road was because the City Council had closed all parking and public access despite County travel reopening on April 12th. There was nowhere for anyone to park.
The attitude of people towards those who want to travel and visit Salthill has been openly hostile on this thread, even when County travel reopened. It’s clear what the agenda is by some - just make it accessible to those who can walk / cycle to it. Fair enough - as I said. Message has been received loud & clear. It is being avoided by many who would have to travel to get to it. Footfall has gone elsewhere.

What days have you been out there measuring footfall, out of interest? Dry days? Wetter, grey days? Weekdays v weekends? Day or night?

21-06-2021 8:50am

CruelSummer wrote: »

The only reason people were parking on that road was because the City Council had closed all parking and public access despite County travel reopening on April 12th.

The parking has been reopened for ages...?!

zell12 wrote: »

Cars clamped in Seamount on Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun. Must be a money-maker for Apcoa

CruelSummer · 21-06-2021 4:57pm

So I have to measure footfall when making a general comment I see - numerous people that usually go to Salthill have said to me they are actively avoiding it this year, I’ve met so many others on alternative beaches I cannot keep count.

Post called ‘weird’ for stating facts re parking & prom closed off way past when County travel reopened.

It’s almost as if those shouting about getting rid of cars from the prom & clamping as many days as week as possible might be putting people off…

Not to mention groups of youths going wild on the beach & ending up all over social media via some video probably filmed without their permission.

21-06-2021 5:23pm

CruelSummer wrote: »

So I have to measure footfall when making a general comment I see - numerous people that usually go to Salthill have said to me they are actively avoiding it this year, I’ve met so many others on alternative beaches I cannot keep count.

Post called ‘weird’ for stating facts re parking & prom closed off way past when County travel reopened.

It’s almost as if those shouting about getting rid of cars from the prom & clamping as many days as week as possible might be putting people off…

Not to mention groups of youths going wild on the beach & ending up all over social media via some video probably filmed without their permission.

Leave the car at home, park in Galway city and get the bus out, walk out, cycle out, get a taxi

You have options, use them, or rant, up to you

Storm 10 · 21-06-2021 6:04pm

CruelSummer wrote: »

So I have to measure footfall when making a general comment I see - numerous people that usually go to Salthill have said to me they are actively avoiding it this year, I’ve met so many others on alternative beaches I cannot keep count.

Post called ‘weird’ for stating facts re parking & prom closed off way past when County travel reopened.

It’s almost as if those shouting about getting rid of cars from the prom & clamping as many days as week as possible might be putting people off…

Not to mention groups of youths going wild on the beach & ending up all over social media via some video probably filmed without their permission.

My self and the wife are regular in Salthill walk the prom and the beach sit on the benches and I have seen nothing like what you are saying happening there , Salthill was packed over the last few fine weekends with people eating and drinking and swimming, love the place we are very lucky to have it on our doorstep .

Gadgetman496 · 21-06-2021 6:14pm

I was there twice today, once at Approx 11.00am and again @ 3.00pm, drove out there on both occasions and got parking each time without any hassle.

zell12 · 23-05-2022 2:07pm

Just nine fines for dog fouling have been issued in Galway over the last five years!! I assume that's the county too. Nuts. https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/galway-records-low-number-of-dog-fouling-fines-over-last-five-years/

Wompa1 · 24-05-2022 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102394#Comment_119102394

Enforcement isn't Galway City Council's bag, baby! Unless it is about outdoor seating and murals, of course.

The prom (COVID closed 31 March 2020, reopened 18 May)

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