Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Jane1012 · 27-04-2021 10:43PM

Akabusi wrote: »

Both my folks registered (69 & 68) when it opened for them but haven't heard anything yet. Be 2 weeks on Thursday from when my Father registered. It's great to hear some centre's are flying through the groups but what could the explanation be for such a disparity depending where you live?

Are they north Dublin City by any chance? My parents are the same. Heard nothing at all yet. I have assumed it’s down to waiting for croke park to open as a MVC

TheDoctor · 27-04-2021 10:45PM

What sort of numbers are we expecting for Monday when they get released tomorrow AM?

Up at Thurs/Fri 40K or to drop back?

bikeman1 · 27-04-2021 10:47PM

My Dad received his 3rd text this morning offering him a Covid vaccine (dose 1). He got his vaccine 10 days ago when first offered in the Cohort 4.

How does this happen? He does have a couple of conditions, but surely there is a cross check before issuing out an appointment? We thought it was an error when the second one came out, but three offers in about 14 days? He did reply no immediately to hopefully give someone the slot they had assigned him in error twice.

Another question coming to my mind, are they over counting the vulnerable? He could be on three lists but is actually only one person. Might be an unusual scenario? Anyone else get two or more vaccine offers?

noplacehere · 27-04-2021 10:52PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

My Dad received his 3rd text this morning offering him a Covid vaccine (dose 1). He got his vaccine 10 days ago when first offered in the Cohort 4.

How does this happen? He does have a couple of conditions, but surely there is a cross check before issuing out an appointment? We thought it was an error when the second one came out, but three offers in about 14 days? He did reply no immediately to hopefully give someone the slot they had assigned him in error twice.

Another question coming to my mind, are they over counting the vulnerable? He could be on three lists but is actually only one person. Might be an unusual scenario? Anyone else get two or more vaccine offers?

No cross checks in my experience. I had three invites for tests in the end, two texts, one phone call from GP. Unfortunately I took the first, if I had waited I would have got pfizer last week and been fully vaccinated way earlier. Having said that I did happily dance up for the vaccination after the fear levels for the last year.

My husband got no contacts at all through the multiple clinics he attends in hospital despite meeting the criteria but thankfully is finally being done by the GP tomorrow

One person I know who is very high risk has now had 5 different invitations for a vaccine. Makes no sense!

Akabusi · 27-04-2021 10:53PM

Jane1012 wrote: »

Are they north Dublin City by any chance? My parents are the same. Heard nothing at all yet. I have assumed it’s down to waiting for croke park to open as a MVC

Cavan

crossman47 · 27-04-2021 10:57PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

Another question coming to my mind, are they over counting the vulnerable? He could be on three lists but is actually only one person. Might be an unusual scenario? Anyone else get two or more vaccine offers?

I'd say they are and, more generally, vastly over counting waiting lists for the same reason. I've said it here a few times but if Covid does not make people realise a unique ID for all transactions with government is vital then nothing will.

Let the civil liberties people who are afraid of Big Brother take a running jump.

Pretzill · 27-04-2021 11:02PM

The OH got his first AZ today all went smoothly the centre was a hub of activity with lots of helpful people there and an air of positivity - looking forward to getting mine when they reach my cohort - dare I dream of travel this autumn?

acequion · 27-04-2021 11:04PM

Is AZ the vaccine being given to all over 60's or is it random? Does that mean this age group will have to wait much longer to be fully vaccinated and eligible for potential benefits like quarantine free travel [EU digital green cert] than other groups? Given that the wait between shots one and two is twelve weeks.

27-04-2021 11:05PM

Akabusi wrote: »

Both my folks registered (69 & 68) when it opened for them but haven't heard anything yet. Be 2 weeks on Thursday from when my Father registered. It's great to hear some centre's are flying through the groups but what could the explanation be for such a disparity depending where you live?

Same for my father in law in the midlands. His nearest vaccination centre doesn't open until next week so we're guessing that's the reason. He'd have been perfectly happy to drive a bit further to one that's open now but that's not being offered.

Miike · 27-04-2021 11:08PM

acequion wrote: »

Is AZ the vaccine being given to all over 60's or is it random? Does that mean this age group will have to wait much longer to be fully vaccinated and eligible for potential benefits like quarantine free travel [EU digital green cert] than other groups? Given that the wait between shots one and two is twelve weeks.

This question has been exhausted on here many times and I laugh every time it comes up. 12 months ago we would have skinned each other for a lick of a vaccine, now people are on about how unfair it is some will travel before others. Neglecting the fact that they are still getting vaccines which offer a high level of protection from death and severe disease.

....but I need my 2 weeks in Portugal :rolleyes:

Polar101 · 27-04-2021 11:12PM

Was there any info on which vaccination centre covers which area? There are none very near to me, but two of them (Helix and Citywest) would probably be the nearest ones.

Strazdas · 27-04-2021 11:18PM

Pretzill wrote: »

The OH got his first AZ today all went smoothly the centre was a hub of activity with lots of helpful people there and an air of positivity - looking forward to getting mine when they reach my cohort - dare I dream of travel this autumn?

Assuming there is no "fifth wave" in Europe, I would say chances of Irish people being able to leave the country by autumn would be very high.

acequion · 27-04-2021 11:21PM

Miike wrote: »

This question has been exhausted on here many times and I laugh every time it comes up. 12 months ago we would have skinned each other for a lick of a vaccine, now people are on about how unfair it is some will travel before others. Neglecting the fact that they are still getting vaccines which offer a high level of protection from death and severe disease.

....but I need my 2 weeks in Portugal :rolleyes:

No need for the rant, I asked a simple question :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I've not been following this thread so have not seen that discussion and was not aware it was already "exhausted."

People are entitled to have concerns and to ask questions!

27-04-2021 11:22PM

Polar101 wrote: »

Was there any info on which vaccination centre covers which area? There are none very near to me, but two of them (Helix and Citywest) would probably be the nearest ones.

It will be whichever is closest based on your eircode.

I thought mine would be Grangegorman but I don't know if that's still going ahead. Otherwise probably the Helix.

Miike · 27-04-2021 11:37PM

acequion wrote: »

No need for the rant, I asked a simple question :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I've not been following this thread so have not seen that discussion and was not aware it was already "exhausted."

People are entitled to have concerns and to ask questions!

Oh that wasn't directed at you. It was just a general comment on something that makes me laugh in this thread! Sorry for making you feel targeted

Goldengirl · 27-04-2021 11:37PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

My Dad received his 3rd text this morning offering him a Covid vaccine (dose 1). He got his vaccine 10 days ago when first offered in the Cohort 4.

How does this happen? He does have a couple of conditions, but surely there is a cross check before issuing out an appointment? We thought it was an error when the second one came out, but three offers in about 14 days? He did reply no immediately to hopefully give someone the slot they had assigned him in error twice.

Another question coming to my mind, are they over counting the vulnerable? He could be on three lists but is actually only one person. Might be an unusual scenario? Anyone else get two or more vaccine offers?

Have only heard of the overlaps in the start in Citywest where people were double booked to start with in the first weeks .
Fair dues to your dad for letting them know .
It's people with more than one underlying conditons being treated by different teams ,and none of them have a joined up way of communicating !

Micky 32 · 27-04-2021 11:38PM

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1387165472735604738?s=21

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1387165476221067265?s=21

JRant · 27-04-2021 11:54PM

Flying Fox wrote: »

It will be whichever is closest based on your eircode.

I thought mine would be Grangegorman but I don't know if that's still going ahead. Otherwise probably the Helix.

You would think that but it doesn't seem to be the case. The in-laws were called for theirs this week. Live a 5 minute walk from croke park or a 10 minute drive to the Helix so of course they were called to Citywest

28-04-2021 12:23AM

JRant wrote: »

You would think that but it doesn't seem to be the case. The in-laws were called for theirs this week. Live a 5 minute walk from croke park or a 10 minute drive to the Helix so of course they were called to Citywest

That's nuts! Seems a bit all over the place.

Qrt · 28-04-2021 12:24AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thought it was 85%.

85% effective against illness in general. Still a 15% chance you’ll get a few sniffles. Afaik nobody in any of the trials was admitted to hospital as a result of infection, which is the end goal after all.

brighterspark · 28-04-2021 12:50AM

Are there many Cohort 4 still waiting? I am now 2 weeks on from my cancelled appt (astra zeneca "abundance of caution" week) 2 weeks working in overcrowded second level school and no protection and now if they ever get round to me I have now aged enough to qualify for the injection I would have got in the first place! This 'caution' they apply I have to wonder is to protect what party? the vaccinated ( or Potentially vaccinated) or those making decisions ( and potentially those who can be held to account/sued)?

Tyrone212 · 28-04-2021 12:58AM

Mark Coughlan of Prime time, likelihood of vaccine targets being met by end of June.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0427/1212479-vaccine-rollout-niac-advice-johnson-and-johnson/

KrustyUCC · 28-04-2021 01:11AM

Good analysis

The "In other words, it seems, you can ask the 50–59-year-olds to wait, or you can risk wasting Johnson & Johnson doses." is very hard for the HSE

Impossible to get right

Strazdas · 28-04-2021 01:30AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Good analysis

The "In other words, it seems, you can ask the 50–59-year-olds to wait, or you can risk wasting Johnson & Johnson doses." is very hard for the HSE

Impossible to get right

Isn't there a get out clause of "if no other vaccine available" for J & J? People barely even noticed this today but it might be significant. Let's say they tear through the over 50s in May with the four vaccines and then open the portal to the 49-45 year olds. At that point, if there are not sufficient vaccines available but they have surplus stock of J & J, it seems they have the green light to administer it.

JTMan · 28-04-2021 06:36AM

A concurrent rollout of different age groups is still possible according to the Irish Times here ...

It is understood officials may look at the potential of allocating specific vaccines to specific age groups, which could be easier operationally. That could open up another age cohort for vaccination to be done in parallel with an older cohort.

One senior source said that 60-69 year olds would soon be given the AstraZeneca vaccine. “We will move to the 50-59 year olds with Johnson & Johnson. So what do we do with all the Pfizer shots? Could we do the 40-49 bracket?” the source speculated.

JTMan · 28-04-2021 06:50AM

Vaccinations of 12-15 year olds in the US are expected to start in the first half of May according to a CDC member. FDA approval in the "next week or so" then CDC approval.

Hopefully the EMA are not far after the FDA/CDC and the hopefully the Irish government are preparing for a pfizer rollout to 12-15 year olds in July.

SusanC10 · 28-04-2021 07:04AM

JTMan wrote: »

Vaccinations of 12-15 year olds in the US are expected to start in the first half of May according to a CDC member. FDA approval in the "next week or so" then CDC approval.

Hopefully the EMA are not far after the FDA/CDC and the hopefully the Irish government are preparing for a pfizer rollout to 12-15 year olds in July.

Good news. I hope you are right for Ireland. Our youngest will be 12 in June - would be great to have all of us vaccinated by end of Summer.

is_that_so · 28-04-2021 07:33AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Isn't there a get out clause of "if no other vaccine available" for J & J? People barely even noticed this today but it might be significant. Let's say they tear through the over 50s in May with the four vaccines and then open the portal to the 49-45 year olds. At that point, if there are not sufficient vaccines available but they have surplus stock of J & J, it seems they have the green light to administer it.

In theory it's all four but in reality it looks more like one and a very small bit. Based on NIAC's advice AZ and J&J have to be used regardless. There certainly will be no tearing through the over 50s with what might come from J&J in May and some may be waiting well into June. The under 50s will only have one vaccine for a huge cohort so those dates are very much up in the air.

is_that_so · 28-04-2021 07:36AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Good news. I hope you are right for Ireland. Our youngest will be 12 in June - would be great to have all of us vaccinated by end of Summer.

It's more likely to be school time when they start on it, even if approved, as the rest of the summer will be taken up with second doses for adults.

Supercell · 28-04-2021 07:36AM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Mark Coughlan of Prime time, likelihood of vaccine targets being met by end of June.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0427/1212479-vaccine-rollout-niac-advice-johnson-and-johnson/

There is another option, research is showing that the mRNA vaccines dont have to be 4 weeks apart, why not make them 6 or maybe 8 weeks, offer them them to all alongside the J&J (for the over 50's) and donate the remaining AZ and J&J doses to other countries, overall rollout time would not be majorly affected or maybe be faster overall and fairer to the over 50's(nobody has to wait 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated or forced to take the J&J) .

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