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KrustyUCC · 27-04-2021 09:41PM

Good day today

Dad got his 1st AZ at lunchtime

Herself will be getting 1st Mrna on Thursday

Pauliedragon · 27-04-2021 09:43PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Lovely atmosphere here tonight :pac:

I can be a bit single minded sometimes but it's not that hard surely. If you're happy to take the jab take it, if you feel too uncomfortable don't take it.
Edit. That wasn't a dig at you in any way funny I was jusy quoting to highlight a good point you made.

Goldengirl · 27-04-2021 09:47PM

hmmm wrote: »

Out of an abundance of caution we should suspend vaccinations.

No, but seriously, now we've started not using vaccines during a pandemic because of the risk of rare side-effects, we can't ignore this just because we've painted ourselves into a corner.

Saw this yesterday but glad wasn't the one to bring it up today:)

All new vaccines less than six months rolling out around the world ,we are going to come up against new side effects every few weeks , some severe, some not so .
The incidence of these are becoming rarer as time goes on hopefully .
But the information is important to guide the future use and different populations that the vaccines can be used in .
It is better to know and have the guts to act on the knowledge to restrict use in certain age groups etc especially when those authorising the use are under so much pressure to just get on with the rollout .
It's not just a question of getting sued , but protecting people .

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 09:48PM

I'm sure we'd all get along really well offline. For the drinkers, I'll buy the first round. For the non-drinkers, I'll buy the britvic 55 and we'll all look back and exhale :-)

Dempo1 · 27-04-2021 09:51PM

ixoy wrote: »

I don't think anyone is deliberately confusing people but it is complex.

I suspect there's a fair few STEM-types on this thread, where the number crunching and logistical aspects of the vaccine are interesting (which is why we get worked up when we look at some of the statistics) but, taking a step back, it is a challenging, shifting puzzle that I pity anyone trying to sort out, especially when trying to explain it to a wider public who aren't quite as interested, or appreciative, of the headaches and just want the damn thing done.

Points taken, thanks. Perhaps too much information being given out at one time. It's adding, I believe to confusion and dare I say doubts. I agree, it's extremely complex and just felt overwhelmed with the various announcements today.

Jane1012 · 27-04-2021 09:53PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

This is exactly the problem though. While I think people will understand when somebody is pregnant, there are still thousands of women in the UK who have got the AZ vaccine and had absolutely no problem with it. So why is it such an issue here, when a real-life result is showing next to no issues with it?
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That’s not actually the case though, the uk was very hesitant giving the vaccine to pregnant women and very few received it. I’m on a lot of uk discussion boards and most were up until recently advised against vaccination. Of those who did receive it, were mainly healthcare workers do got Pfizer. The UK only recently changed their strategy with regards to vaccinating pregnant women with the added caveat that an MRNA vaccine was recommended. I’m aware that my example is very specific to pregnant women but to say thousands of pregnant women got AZ in the UK is false.

However still on a broader spectrum, I don’t think anyone especially older cohorts who we deem vulnerable should be pushed in to a corner to be given a specific vaccine that they are very scared of. Why not open it up and see if people volunteer to skip the Q (probably by a whole 6/8 weeks) to get AZ, if they do it could make a big difference to some very scared elderly people,

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 09:54PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Good day today

Dad got his 1st AZ at lunchtime

Herself will be getting 1st Mrna on Thursday

Good stuff.

Did he register on the portal if you don't mind me asking ?

Trying to get a picture of what it's looking like across the country. City west for example seem to be flying through the age groups

PhilOssophy · 27-04-2021 09:56PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

I'm sure we'd all get along really well offline. For the drinkers, I'll buy the first round. For the non-drinkers, I'll buy the britvic 55 and we'll all look back and exhale :-)

I've given up drinking, there's a 1 in a million chance that I might fall over and die after that pint. I don't like those odds.

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 10:00PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

I've given up drinking, there's a 1 in a million chance that I might fall over and die after that pint. I don't like those odds.

Can I offer you an egg in this tryin' time?

Goldengirl · 27-04-2021 10:04PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good stuff.

Did he register on the portal if you don't mind me asking ?

Trying to get a picture of what it's looking like across the country. City west for example seem to be flying through the age groups

Relatives down the country being done today and tomorrow, early sixties no underlying conditions .
Think that's pretty fast as they only registered at the weekend .

iamwhoiam · 27-04-2021 10:06PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good stuff.

Did he register on the portal if you don't mind me asking ?

Trying to get a picture of what it's looking like across the country. City west for example seem to be flying through the age groups

Friends in Waterford ( 66 ) registered on the right day . Only got a text today for Sunday coming

Goldengirl · 27-04-2021 10:08PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

I'm sure we'd all get along really well offline. For the drinkers, I'll buy the first round. For the non-drinkers, I'll buy the britvic 55 and we'll all look back and exhale :-)

A large ( very ) gin and tonic, for me please :pac:

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 10:10PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

A large ( very ) gin and tonic, for me please :pac:

:cool:

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 10:11PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Friends in Waterford ( 66 ) registered on the right day . Only got a text today for Sunday coming

Yeah my father registered on the Monday for 65 year olds, nothing yet. Think the Aviva will be our nearest MVC

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 10:12PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Relatives down the country being done today and tomorrow, early sixties no underlying conditions .
Think that's pretty fast as they only registered at the weekend .

It's a mixed picture across the country really

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2021 10:12PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good stuff.

Did he register on the portal if you don't mind me asking ?

Trying to get a picture of what it's looking like across the country. City west for example seem to be flying through the age groups

Yeah he did

He's 65

Got his in City Hall Cork

PhilOssophy · 27-04-2021 10:12PM

Jane1012 wrote: »

That’s not actually the case though, the uk was very hesitant giving the vaccine to pregnant women and very few received it. I’m on a lot of uk discussion boards and most were up until recently advised against vaccination. Of those who did receive it, were mainly healthcare workers do got Pfizer. The UK only recently changed their strategy with regards to vaccinating pregnant women with the added caveat that an MRNA vaccine was recommended. I’m aware that my example is very specific to pregnant women but to say thousands of pregnant women got AZ in the UK is false.

However still on a broader spectrum, I don’t think anyone especially older cohorts who we deem vulnerable should be pushed in to a corner to be given a specific vaccine that they are very scared of. Why not open it up and see if people volunteer to skip the Q (probably by a whole 6/8 weeks) to get AZ, if they do it could make a big difference to some very scared elderly people,

There was plenty of women who got AZ early doors though, and I think I heard they were told to get second dose (I know one person in this very situation).

On your 2nd point, if people are scared of a vaccine then they clearly don't understand how safe they are. What do you think people are actually scared of?

The big mistake was NIAC dithering and creating panic where there was no need for it

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 10:13PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah he did

He's 65

Got his in City Hall Cork

Good stuff. Hoping we'll hear this week

27-04-2021 10:14PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Janssen is 100% effective against severe disease, what else do you want

Thought it was 85%.

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2021 10:15PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good stuff. Hoping we'll hear this week

Fingers crossed

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 10:16PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah my father registered on the Monday for 65 year olds, nothing yet. Think the Aviva will be our nearest MVC

Fingers crossed for ye, genuinely hope ye hear something soon.

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 10:16PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Fingers crossed for ye, genuinely hope ye hear something soon.

Yeah no surprise to be honest. The Aviva would be covering a pretty large area

iamwhoiam · 27-04-2021 10:17PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah my father registered on the Monday for 65 year olds, nothing yet. Think the Aviva will be our nearest MVC

The Helix seem to be slow . Friends ( 68) only being done tomorrow .
From all my friends who registered online those going to City West got appointments first .

Goldengirl · 27-04-2021 10:18PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good stuff. Hoping we'll hear this week

Best of luck for your dad, Stephen .

lucernarian · 27-04-2021 10:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You misunderstand my point.

Its that as we go past 80% first doses, the final 20% are the harder to get to, those with mental health issues, those who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons, the anti-vaxxers, the lazy, etc will make up a not insignificant portion of that group. But in essence, that 20% will benefit from the protection already given to the 80% because there is strong evidence that the vaccines significantly prevent transmission. By delaying 2nd doses to the 80% to catch up the 20% you run the risk that more people remain at increased risk unnecessarily, and counter intuitively putting those un-vaccinated or who cannot be vaccinated at increased risk. The vaccines have a two dose regime for a reason. Its not just for the extra few %. We know with lots of vaccines that without the booster, immunity can wane over time. The second doses "fixes" long term immunity.

I appreciate your logic, but in this case, significant protection is provided with one dose - it seems like that extends to transmission when looking at the UK's progress so far. The marginal gain in having a smaller number more fully protected, appears to be lower and less able to suppress the R0 rate of the virus in the population than if a larger number of people received one dose (based on the most to-date data I've seen on their effectiveness).

Russman · 27-04-2021 10:30PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah no surprise to be honest. The Aviva would be covering a pretty large area

Fwiw, my boss is 67 and registered on the Saturday when it opened for that age. He got a call yesterday evening and had his shot in the Aviva this afternoon. I’d say your dad should hear something v soon.

Russman · 27-04-2021 10:34PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The Helix seem to be slow . Friends ( 68) only being done tomorrow .
From all my friends who registered online those going to City West got appointments first .

Citywest seem to be very quick alright. My mother & 3 of her friends (all 69) registered on the Thursday the portal opened and had their jabs the following Tuesday and Wednesday in Citywest. Another friend of theirs, also 69, and ironically the oldest of them, registered by phone as opposed to the portal also on the Thursday, and only had her shot yesterday in Citywest.

Micky 32 · 27-04-2021 10:34PM

I see that more than half of americans have had at least their first shot, however the surging rate of people seeking out vaccines has begun to taper.

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 10:34PM

Russman wrote: »

Fwiw, my boss is 67 and registered on the Saturday when it opened for that age. He got a call yesterday evening and had his shot in the Aviva this afternoon. I’d say your dad should hear something v soon.

Good to hear, fingers crossed

Akabusi · 27-04-2021 10:36PM

Both my folks registered (69 & 68) when it opened for them but haven't heard anything yet. Be 2 weeks on Thursday from when my Father registered. It's great to hear some centre's are flying through the groups but what could the explanation be for such a disparity depending where you live?

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