Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

josip · 27-04-2021 12:43PM

Chuck Norris 2021 wrote: »

Thanks for sharing. Interesting response. I'd say, to be honest, they can't be f##ked with Ireland or anyone living here after some of what the government has done. I'd say they're happy to let us suffer on out little barren rock, and I wouldn't blame them :pac:

Correct, they're our politicians and we elected them

Lmkrnr · 27-04-2021 12:47PM

Atleast Arlene and Co have a viable option for us to travel in NI. Please Mr O'Leary add more flights to Belfast.

eltonyio · 27-04-2021 12:52PM

Indeed. This fiasco has made me re-evaluate the pros and cons of partition.

josip · 27-04-2021 12:59PM

Tazz T wrote: »

Bit of a wake up call for all those saying 'can ye not wait a couple of years for your holiday, then it'll all be back to normal?'

There will be no industry to take you on holiday. And what there will be will be will be hugely expensive.

They won't care.
Most of the people pushing hard for an isolationist country probably never left their own counties.

Corholio · 27-04-2021 01:10PM

It's sad that a lot of people will have to be following the UK travel plans and updates instead of the ones here, but good there is even an option tbh.

Experience_day · 27-04-2021 01:14PM

Tazz T wrote: »

Bit of a wake up call for all those saying 'can ye not wait a couple of years for your holiday, then it'll all be back to normal?'

There will be no industry to take you on holiday. And what there will be will be will be hugely expensive.

Certain people come under this category.

1) People who had no intention of travel (a small proportion)
2) People who are wealthy enough to afford the travel and like the idea of "reducing climate change or (whatever buzz phrase is flavour of the season) as it will make travel exclusive again. Too many plebs doing it.

I think it's a growing elite that are pushing these particular calls to actions. Just like hollywood spouting their **** off whilst jetting off to venues.

And you are right, there will be a vastly diminished offering for the average person if this doesn't recover quickly. And I think people forgot just how expensive flights used to be....

Chuck Norris 2021 · 27-04-2021 01:16PM

josip wrote: »

They won't care.
Most of the people pushing hard for an isolationist country probably never left their own counties.

It's funny, some of the comments I've heard when discussing travel with those type of people, including the following;

Sure we have a lovely country, why would you go abroad.
We should be staying here looking after our own.
I'd rather be here, that foreign food is awful.
We'd have no covid here if it wasn't for travel.
Sure why would you want to spend your time in a place you know no one.

:pac:

27-04-2021 01:23PM

Chuck Norris 2021 wrote: »

It's funny, some of the comments I've heard when discussing travel with those type of people, including the following;

Sure we have a lovely country, why would you go abroad.
We should be staying here looking after our own.
I'd rather be here, that foreign food is awful.
We'd have no covid here if it wasn't for travel.
Sure why would you want to spend your time in a place you know no one.

:pac:

not good on a day like today, when its almost May and I have the heating on looking out the window at rain and grey skies! We can tolerate a bit of Ireland and yes I love it. But God Almighty after 2 Summers of this I am cracking up to head to Nice, Rome, Krakow, Girona, Copenhagen, Geneva, the Amalfi coast, Crete, Cyprus ...........any one of these places would be idyllic now, just something to look forward to.

I really fear we are going to go back to extortionate prices to travel.........and its our own fault.............. (and the same people screaming for airports to close will be ringing up Joe Duffy complaining about being ripped off :mad:)

Gael23 · 27-04-2021 01:26PM

Why can’t the government be forced into the green certificate in June like other countries?

1123heavy · 27-04-2021 01:29PM

Does anyone know if we need a negative PCR test travelling from the UK at the moment? I've got some urgent stuff to do there ..

Irish gov website doesn't seem to specify between common travel area and the rest of the world, whereas in the UK they say CTA arrivals are exempt.

Tests showing as £99, more than the flight!

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 01:32PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Why can’t the government be forced into the green certificate in June like other countries?

Nobody is forced to do anything in June. Whenever the EU bring in the system, they'll give its start date. After that countries have 6 weeks to get it up and running.

General Toilet · 27-04-2021 01:33PM

1123heavy wrote: »

Does anyone know if we need a negative PCR test travelling from the UK at the moment? I've got some urgent stuff to do there ..

Irish gov website doesn't seem to specify between common travel area and the rest of the world, whereas in the UK they say CTA arrivals are exempt.

Tests showing as £99, more than the flight!

Yep, you need a PCR test coming from the UK.

1123heavy · 27-04-2021 01:39PM

General Toilet wrote: »

Yep, you need a PCR test coming from the UK.

Driving up to Belfast and staying in the long term coming out far cheaper!

scamalert · 27-04-2021 01:39PM

1123heavy wrote: »

Does anyone know if we need a negative PCR test travelling from the UK at the moment? I've got some urgent stuff to do there ..

Irish gov website doesn't seem to specify between common travel area and the rest of the world, whereas in the UK they say CTA arrivals are exempt.

Tests showing as £99, more than the flight!

a joke that prob will be kept on for years, dont even need MHQ when 2 tests cost as 4 flights.

Dr. Em · 27-04-2021 01:45PM

Um...wasn't it obvious last year that the days of cheap air travel were gone for the next several years? This isn't just an Irish problem. There is a wikipedia page of all the airlines that have gone bankrupt in the last year: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airlines_impacted_by_the_COVID-19_pandemic

Some new companies will spring up when demand increases, but it will be a changed scene for maybe a decade.

Having family, not to mention friends, in many countries across the world, I'm gutted. Or I was gutted last year when it became apparent. I also see the need for travel restrictions (not the chaotic current ones though) until the vaccine rollout has progressed further. It is easy to get carried away with the hyperbole of lazy stereotypes.

Corholio · 27-04-2021 01:52PM

Barcelona's concert trial with 5,000 people seems to have been a huge success. Only 6 people tested positive two weeks after the event with 4 of the cases 'a very high probability' not to have been as a result of transmission at the event.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0427/1212296-coronavirus-global/

27-04-2021 01:58PM

Corholio wrote: »

Barcelona's concert trial with 5,000 people seems to have been a huge success. Only 6 people tested positive two weeks after the event with 4 of the cases 'a very high probability' not to have been as a result of transmission at the event.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0427/1212296-coronavirus-global/

Makes you wonder if it was ever as contagious as suggested.

Couple of folks in work got it. Despite the original person being asymptomatic and all working together, there was no mass outbreak that we know of.

Sensible precautions did fine it seems or we were all just asymptomatic. Either way, work carried on

Lmkrnr · 27-04-2021 01:59PM

1123heavy wrote: »

Does anyone know if we need a negative PCR test travelling from the UK at the moment? I've got some urgent stuff to do there ..

Irish gov website doesn't seem to specify between common travel area and the rest of the world, whereas in the UK they say CTA arrivals are exempt.

Tests showing as £99, more than the flight!

Not if you fly to Belfast. You will Just need to pay tolls on the M1/m50, still a lot cheaper tho.

1123heavy · 27-04-2021 02:05PM

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Not if you fly to Belfast. You will Just need to pay tolls on the M1/m50, still a lot cheaper tho.

Which highlights the fallacy of Ireland not acknowledging the CTA as an exemption, unlike the UK. It just means that instead of Dublin airport and Aer Lingus getting my money, easyJet and BFS will.

Makes you wonder if it was ever as contagious as suggested.

Is it not the case that the original strain of C19 is all but gone? I remember we were being told that itself was uniquely contagious, unlike anything we'd ever seen before. Now these new strains are infinitely contagious again.

If only 2 people tested positive directly from this event, then how more contagious is this new strain exactly? If it was that bad surely a lot more would have got it

Lmkrnr · 27-04-2021 02:07PM

Also for anyone without a passport due to the Government Shambles if you Travel with easyJet you won't even need Id traveling from Belfast to the UK and visa versa.

Chris_5339762 · 27-04-2021 02:08PM

1123heavy wrote: »

Which highlights the fallacy of Ireland not acknowledging the CTA as an exemption, unlike the UK. It just means that instead of Dublin airport and Aer Lingus getting my money, easyJet and BFS will.t

I can well understand that given the 2020 shambles with the UK, keep em out at the time was the best thing that could have been done.

Sadly we have not rescinded that. We should be immediately in a travel bubble of sorts with UK but then, y'know Brexit and the optics of that.

Lmkrnr · 27-04-2021 02:14PM

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

I can well understand that given the 2020 shambles with the UK, keep em out at the time was the best thing that could have been done.

Sadly we have not rescinded that. We should be immediately in a travel bubble of sorts with UK but then, y'know Brexit and the optics of that.

The amount of goodwill the Unionist side will get from this current situation will will be good for Arlene ect. People are happy to be able to travel. SF want to keep people locked down like the Irish Gov.

Mr. Karate · 27-04-2021 02:45PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Makes you wonder if it was ever as contagious as suggested.

Couple of folks in work got it. Despite the original person being asymptomatic and all working together, there was no mass outbreak that we know of.

Sensible precautions did fine it seems or we were all just asymptomatic. Either way, work carried on

Thousands gathered in Dublin last year [and in several Counties for a few weeks afterwards] for BLM rallies and there were no spikes. That should have been the wake up call that this virus wasn't what they claimed it to be.

Chuck Norris 2021 · 27-04-2021 03:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

not good on a day like today, when its almost May and I have the heating on looking out the window at rain and grey skies! We can tolerate a bit of Ireland and yes I love it. But God Almighty after 2 Summers of this I am cracking up to head to Nice, Rome, Krakow, Girona, Copenhagen, Geneva, the Amalfi coast, Crete, Cyprus ...........any one of these places would be idyllic now, just something to look forward to.

I really fear we are going to go back to extortionate prices to travel.........and its our own fault.............. (and the same people screaming for airports to close will be ringing up Joe Duffy complaining about being ripped off :mad:)

I hear ya. I was lucky enough to get away last summer, and to be fair the weather for the first two weeks of lock down was lovely, but I cannot wait to escape. I wouldn't panic just yet, if you look back on where we were this time last year, things looked very grim, and the situation across Europe improved dramatically. One of the best things about getting away last year was the escaping the doom and gloom. They are so positive in other European countries.

mmclo · 27-04-2021 03:47PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Is that after the second dose?

Yes, it's sort of an omnibus SI, type of thing our media don't read if it's not fed to them http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2021/si/193/made/en/print

"“ ‘vaccinated person’ means –

(a) in relation to a person to whom the medicinal product for active immunisation to prevent Covid-19 known as ‘COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna CX-024414’ has been administered –

(i) as part of the vaccination programme against Covid-19 implemented by the Health Service Executive on behalf of the State, or

(ii) as part of a vaccination programme (howsoever described) against Covid-19 implemented on behalf of another state, country, territory, region or other place outside the State,

such person not less than 14 days after a second dose of that medicinal product has been administered to that person,

(b) in relation to a person to whom the medicinal product for active immunisation to prevent Covid-19 known as ‘Vaxzevria (previously COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca) ChAdOx1-SARS-COV-2’ has been administered –

(i) as part of the vaccination programme against Covid-19 implemented by the Health Service Executive on behalf of the State, or

(ii) as part of a vaccination programme (howsoever described) against Covid-19 implemented on behalf of another state, country, territory, region or other place outside the State,

such person not less than 15 days after a second dose of that medicinal product has been administered to that person,

(c) in relation to a person to whom the medicinal product authorised for active immunisation to prevent Covid-19 known as ‘Comirnaty BNT162b2’ has been administered –

(i) as part of the vaccination programme against Covid-19 implemented by the Health Service Executive on behalf of the State, or

(ii) as part of a vaccination programme (howsoever described) against Covid-19 implemented on behalf of another state, country, territory, region or other place outside the State,

such person not less than 7 days after a second dose of that medicinal product has been administered to that person, or

(d) in relation to a person to whom the medicinal product for active immunisation to prevent Covid-19 known as ‘COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen (Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant])’ has been administered –

(i) as part of the vaccination programme against Covid-19 implemented by the Health Service Executive on behalf of the State, or

(ii) as part of a vaccination programme (howsoever described) against Covid-19 implemented on behalf of another state, country, territory, region or other place outside the State,

such person not less than 14 days after that medicinal product has been administered to that person;”.

mmclo · 27-04-2021 03:50PM

Golfman64 wrote: »

And they can only do this in the event of an approval from the EU commission via written request including a specific set of metrics justifying said decision.

Where does it say that, the regulation only says provide further information, it does not say "approval" anywhere

corkonion · 27-04-2021 03:55PM

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Also for anyone without a passport due to the Government Shambles if you Travel with easyJet you won't even need Id traveling from Belfast to the UK and visa versa.

Online passport applications being accepted processed again since yesterday, however I'd expect there to be a backlog

Chuck Norris 2021 · 27-04-2021 04:00PM

corkonion wrote: »

Online passport applications being accepted processed again since yesterday, however I'd expect there to be a backlog

Do you mind me asking where you got that information? It's just that the online system has been open all along, they're only processing randomly chosen ones, so it's a lottery.

Frank Bullitt · 27-04-2021 04:20PM

I am at a pretty low point right now.

Longest stretch being away from home currently. I would fly back once or twice a year from Canada, so not being able to do that along with additional restrictions here in BC, and it being tax season (send help), I think my emotions are just piling up.

I check here and the news every single day for some sort of info that loads of vaccines are on the way, or green passports are approved and there is hope...and it just makes things worse.

I went through a really bad patch few years ago with anxiety and it really feels like that again. I never thought this covid stuff would effect me like it did but here I am. I can't focus on work, my relationship, the things I like doing like riding my motorbike or anything like that...tunnel vision is really taking a grip on me.

I know I am not alone in this, plenty of people have not been home to see family in such a long time. Zoom calls work, but not as well as they used to.

I am close to the point of just travelling home because at this rate, I will lose my whits and not be myself. I just have to stay positive on things, try my best to be a good person and just hope that this all gets better soon. I have tears in my eyes writing this, and I feel so embarrassed about that alone.

Anyway, things seem to have come to a head for me in a way, it can only get better from here I hope.

Corholio · 27-04-2021 04:28PM

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

I am at a pretty low point right now.

Longest stretch being away from home currently. I would fly back once or twice a year from Canada, so not being able to do that along with additional restrictions here in BC, and it being tax season (send help), I think my emotions are just piling up.

I check here and the news every single day for some sort of info that loads of vaccines are on the way, or green passports are approved and there is hope...and it just makes things worse.

I went through a really bad patch few years ago with anxiety and it really feels like that again. I never thought this covid stuff would effect me like it did but here I am. I can't focus on work, my relationship, the things I like doing like riding my motorbike or anything like that...tunnel vision is really taking a grip on me.

I know I am not alone in this, plenty of people have not been home to see family in such a long time. Zoom calls work, but not as well as they used to.

I am close to the point of just travelling home because at this rate, I will lose my whits and not be myself. I just have to stay positive on things, try my best to be a good person and just hope that this all gets better soon. I have tears in my eyes writing this, and I feel so embarrassed about that alone.

Anyway, things seem to have come to a head for me in a way, it can only get better from here I hope.

Keep the head up mate, definitely know where you are coming from. Something's that we need others don't understand, even if they aren't 'essential' to them. Keep an eye on the UK opening up travel on May 17th. I don't know what routes they are from Canada to Belfast but there may be some options from there. May should be a better month, and while all this talk of stuff being pushed to July is depressing, there should be more options next month, even if it doesn't include the Republic. Stay positive!

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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