Female Police officer stabbed to death in France

Utter scum people that can do this!

France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?

biko wrote: »

France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?

Unfortunately they want to let these all in here too...

Loverlyhorse wrote: »

I keep hearing that it's a "religion of peace"?

The Troubles rang?

Danzy wrote: »

Are there still people pretending that the war in the North had something to do with religion.

That’s some laughable revisionism you’re trying to pull.

jay1988 wrote: »

About as laughable as your whataboutery.

Which is only as laughable of turning every stabbing involving some radical extremist into an indictment on 1.8 billion adherents to Islam

Strumms wrote: »

By refusing to allow into your country people who would or might do your country and it’s people harm.

And on what criteria do you wish to refuse them, that is not bigotry?

Loverlyhorse wrote: »

I keep hearing that it's a "religion of peace"?

Well, it's like calling Catholicism a religion of people who respect children, isn't it?

biko wrote: »

The killer Jamel Gorchane came from Tunisia to France in 2009.
The fact that he shouted Allahu akbar and the presence of files related to Islamist terrorism found at his home and on his phone points toward this being a terrorist attack.

From this article we also learn the victim's name and age - Stéphanie, 49. RIP.

https://www.leparisien.fr/yvelines-78/attentat-de-rambouillet-ce-que-lon-sait-de-jamel-gorchane-lassaillant-de-36-ans-abattu-dans-le-commissariat-24-04-2021-6BA4Z5MJ3NEZPE5RROT7TDISTI.php

“Files related to Islamist terrorism”

Such as?

If I was reading that on some loony rightwing US site they could as easily be referring to the Koran

And my phone browser does not auto translate.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

All of these people are knowing to the police for the content they view and the things they preach but they are untouchable until they kill someone, that needs to change. Should be deported and banned from the country for viewing this material if they are immigrants.

What material are you referring to here? What things “being preached?” Because, as we just briefly mentioned, we don’t have any specifics about what any of the aforementioned material is.

How do you implement the idea of not admitting terrorists?

I reckon they don't know they're terrorists when they arrive. So is it just to not let muslims in?

I'm not a fan of religion, and Islam seems worse than most. But I'm also not onboard with the idea of discriminating against people on the basis of their religion.

grassylawn wrote: »

How do you implement the idea of not admitting terrorists?

I reckon they don't know they're terrorists when they arrive. So is it just to not let muslims in?

I'm not a fan of religion, and Islam seems worse than most. But I'm also not onboard with the idea of discriminating against people on the basis of their religion.

Also considering the suspect arrived 12 years ago I don’t think anyone can really fault the sovereign/immigration security measures as a primary cause for the stabbing itself. No liability on their part at all for that, unless you apply the superhuman standard of them being psychic or having precognition.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-divers/terrorisme/fonctionnaire-de-police-tuee-a-rambouillet/attaque-au-couteau-a-rambouillet-le-profil-de-lassaillant-jamelgorchane-se-precise_4384915.html

The suspect arrived as an irregular migrant and was regularised in 2019.
Irregular is newspeak for illegal migrants, the boats that come across the sea.
Regularisation is an amnesty or leave to remain.
It's not yet clear in this instance how he was regularised.

This act echoes the stabbings by a 21-year-old Tunisian in Nice in October who killed people in a church while shouting Allah Akbar.

Overheal wrote: »

That’s some laughable revisionism you’re trying to pull.

The only Volunteers you know are tending horses for the Irish Racing association.

There’s far too much of this going on in the name of Islam —

Deadly attacks on French police
January 2015: Two police officers were among those killed in the attack at the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. A third was killed in a related attack the following day.
June 2016: A police commander and his partner, also a police official, were stabbed to death at their home west of Paris by a man claiming allegiance to the Islamic State (IS) group. The attacker was killed in a police assault on the house.
April 2017: A French policeman was killed by a jihadist on the Champs Elysées in Paris. Two other officers were wounded in the attack. The suspect was shot dead by security forces, and a note defending IS was found near his body.
March 2018: A gunman who pledged allegiance to IS militants launched a series of attacks in southern France, killing four people including a policeman who traded places with a captive. He also opened fire on a group of police officers out jogging, wounding one. The suspect was shot dead by police.
October 2019: A police computer operator stabbed four of his colleagues to death at the Paris police headquarters, before being shot dead. Anti-terror prosecutors said he adhered to a radical version of Islam..

Yes, it appears to matter.

No Jews for instance have committed police murders to my knowledge of late in France*.






*I'm sure someone can find some murder somewhere in Israel or other place.

bubblypop wrote: »

Does it matter what religion the people are who killed police?

It does if their adherence to that religion or support for/membership of radical religious groups was linked to their actions.

You may find such things uncomfortable but those are the facts

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. The apologists who'll be out in force soon. They are worse.

Which apologists?

I always see this type of post pop up on the first page of one of these tragedies trying to wrangle a few thanks but I've yet to see someone try and stand up for the murderers.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, the inams and left wing commentators.

Inams? You don't even know the words you wish to use.

Here - Imams.

bubblypop wrote: »

Why would we be on video call? We work together & I assure you, they couldn't care less what religion some murdering scumbag is.

As I said above, I'm sure it'll matter if the reason they were attacked or worse was religiously motivated.

I'm actually surprised that someone like yourself seems to be more concerned with virtue signalling than the reality of the potential threat caused by these individuals and their radical beliefs.

Jequ0n wrote: »

France’s fight was los aeons ago simply because the state made grievous and badly informed decisions.
Instead of learning from it other countries just let the same thing happen, which is the real tragedy.

What's worse for us is we are being setup for potentially the same issues here with the imminent "come one, come all" immigration policies that O'Gorman and the Government are finalising.