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Female Police officer stabbed to death in France

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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,680 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Utter scum people that can do this!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭ Danzy


    walshb wrote: »
    Utter scum people that can do this!

    The people that allow it by turning a blind eye are worse.

    The man with the knife is the least of it.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
    The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

    Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,871 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Danzy wrote: »
    The people that allow it by turning a blind eye are worse.

    The man with the knife is the least of it.

    The man with the knife, who plunged it into another person, is the least if it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭ vriesmays


    biko wrote: »
    France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
    The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

    Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?

    Rubber knives.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭ Danzy


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The man with the knife, who plunged it into another person, is the least if it?

    He is still an awful shi7 but the types that turn a blind eye, the enablers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,686 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    biko wrote: »
    France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
    The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

    Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?

    Unfortunately they want to let these all in here too...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 44 ✭✭✭ Loverlyhorse


    biko wrote: »
    France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.

    I keep hearing that it's a "religion of peace"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    I keep hearing that it's a "religion of peace"?

    The Troubles rang?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭ Danzy


    Overheal wrote: »
    The Troubles rang?

    Are there still people pretending that the war in the North had something to do with religion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    Danzy wrote: »
    Are there still people pretending that the war in the North had something to do with religion.

    That’s some laughable revisionism you’re trying to pull.


  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭ jay1988


    Overheal wrote: »
    That’s some laughable revisionism you’re trying to pull.

    About as laughable as your whataboutery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    jay1988 wrote: »
    About as laughable as your whataboutery.

    Which is only as laughable of turning every stabbing involving some radical extremist into an indictment on 1.8 billion adherents to Islam


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,213 ✭✭✭✭ Strumms


    biko wrote: »
    France have been battling this dangerous and hateful ideology for many years now.
    The victims count in their hundreds in France alone.

    Does someone have an idea on how to avoid these attacks?

    By refusing to allow into your country people who would or might do your country and it’s people harm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    Strumms wrote: »
    By refusing to allow into your country people who would or might do your country and it’s people harm.

    And on what criteria do you wish to refuse them, that is not bigotry?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    The killer Jamel Gorchane came from Tunisia to France in 2009.
    The fact that he shouted Allahu akbar and the presence of files related to Islamist terrorism found at his home and on his phone points toward this being a terrorist attack.

    From this article we also learn the victim's name and age - Stéphanie, 49. RIP.

    https://www.leparisien.fr/yvelines-78/attentat-de-rambouillet-ce-que-lon-sait-de-jamel-gorchane-lassaillant-de-36-ans-abattu-dans-le-commissariat-24-04-2021-6BA4Z5MJ3NEZPE5RROT7TDISTI.php


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,170 ✭✭✭✭ Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I keep hearing that it's a "religion of peace"?


    Well, it's like calling Catholicism a religion of people who respect children, isn't it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭ brainboru1104


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The man with the knife, who plunged it into another person, is the least if it?

    Yes. The apologists who'll be out in force soon. They are worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭ brainboru1104


    Well, it's like calling Catholicism a religion of people who respect children, isn't it?

    "Religion of peace" is a self appointed title.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,170 ✭✭✭✭ Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    "Religion of peace" is a self appointed title.

    I'd argue it's not a title.

    I'd also argue there's no such thing as a religion of "peace" - individuals of peace who follow religions, yes - but that's a different thread.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭ brainboru1104


    I'd argue it's not a title.

    I'd also argue there's no such thing as a religion of "peace" - individuals of peace who follow religions, yes - but that's a different thread.

    Your argument is with the inams and left wing commentators who keep repeating it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,170 ✭✭✭✭ Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Your argument is with the inams and left wing commentators who keep repeating it.

    No, my arugment is with the person who puts it in "inverted commas" in order to pretend the actions of one person is a more reliable yardstick than the beliefs of well over one billion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    biko wrote: »
    The killer Jamel Gorchane came from Tunisia to France in 2009.
    The fact that he shouted Allahu akbar and the presence of files related to Islamist terrorism found at his home and on his phone points toward this being a terrorist attack.

    From this article we also learn the victim's name and age - Stéphanie, 49. RIP.

    https://www.leparisien.fr/yvelines-78/attentat-de-rambouillet-ce-que-lon-sait-de-jamel-gorchane-lassaillant-de-36-ans-abattu-dans-le-commissariat-24-04-2021-6BA4Z5MJ3NEZPE5RROT7TDISTI.php

    “Files related to Islamist terrorism”

    Such as?

    If I was reading that on some loony rightwing US site they could as easily be referring to the Koran

    And my phone browser does not auto translate.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    That's what the article says. I guess you'll have to be patient.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes. The apologists who'll be out in force soon. They are worse.

    The worst person is the one that murdered a policewoman. End of


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,908 ✭✭✭✭ BorneTobyWilde


    All of these people are knowing to the police for the content they view and the things they preach but they are untouchable until they kill someone, that needs to change. Should be deported and banned from the country for viewing this material if they are immigrants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,250 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal


    All of these people are knowing to the police for the content they view and the things they preach but they are untouchable until they kill someone, that needs to change. Should be deported and banned from the country for viewing this material if they are immigrants.

    What material are you referring to here? What things “being preached?” Because, as we just briefly mentioned, we don’t have any specifics about what any of the aforementioned material is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ Panrich


    Overheal wrote: »
    Which is only as laughable of turning every stabbing involving some radical extremist into an indictment on 1.8 billion adherents to Islam

    If these cowards were denied a muslim burial then that would help alienate them within their own communities and reduce support. I don't see any appetite for that though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭ grassylawn


    How do you implement the idea of not admitting terrorists?

    I reckon they don't know they're terrorists when they arrive. So is it just to not let muslims in?

    I'm not a fan of religion, and Islam seems worse than most. But I'm also not onboard with the idea of discriminating against people on the basis of their religion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭ tdf7187


    Danzy wrote: »
    The people that allow it by turning a blind eye are worse.

    The man with the knife is the least of it.

    Who, precisely, is 'turning a blind eye'?


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