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Anto_Meath · 21-04-2021 10:27AM

They are all good prices and good weights. Would you have considered keeping the twins to try for breeding?

Sami23 · 21-04-2021 10:50AM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

465kg 12 months €900 FRx
405kg 11 months €990 twin
350kg 9 months €910
385kg 10 months €840 FRx
370kg 11 months €1000 twin
375kg 11 months €980

The 2 FRx were bought in to suck cows that lost a calf.

Edit: all heifers.

There great weights for their age - was no sparing the meal I'd say.

Welding Rod · 21-04-2021 11:57AM

Sami23 wrote: »

There great weights for their age - was no sparing the meal I'd say.

Fr heifer 465kgs at 12 months........

SuperTortoise · 21-04-2021 05:06PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

They are all good prices and good weights. Would you have considered keeping the twins to try for breeding?

The twins were well made for twins but no, i have 7 more heifers kept, the best of last years calves and will breed from 4 or 5 of them.

I was'nt made up with the prices, they done ok.

Water John · 21-04-2021 06:50PM

A neighbour has always Fr. I see he has a new lot of stores, lovely Br Fr cattle. Rarely see the likes.

kollegeknight · 21-04-2021 08:03PM

I’ve a few red limo yearling heifers about a year with 12 months of a test. I think they’re over 300kg, some maybe a little more. (Planning on keeping the grey and roam one)
I also have a bullock that is a bit poor as he never improved after his mother dying.

I won’t be short of grass. Should I sell them now when trade seems ok or hold onto them for a bit more?

Not majorly under pressure from money either and I’ve enough reduced for the beam scheme.

Water John · 21-04-2021 09:01PM

kollegeknight wrote: »

I’ve a few red limo yearling heifers about a year with 12 months of a test. I think they’re over 300kg, some maybe a little more. (Planning on keeping the grey and roam one)
I also have a bullock that is a bit poor as he never improved after his mother dying.

I won’t be short of grass. Should I sell them now when trade seems ok or hold onto them for a bit more?

Not majorly under pressure from money either and I’ve enough reduced for the beam scheme.

Knight, I see you're farming in Australia.

kollegeknight · 21-04-2021 09:04PM

Water John wrote: »

Knight, I see you're farming in Australia.

Special breed. Crossed with bats.

No clue why that happens.

Water John · 21-04-2021 09:10PM

Unless you want to cash in the stock, I'd hold as you have the grass.

kollegeknight · 21-04-2021 09:12PM

Water John wrote: »

Unless you want to cash in the stock, I'd hold as you have the grass.

That was my thinking. All in including calves, I’ve 27 on the 75 acres this year and there is enough distance to keep the bull from them. While prices seem good I reckon the heifers could do with a bit more Time on grass.

kk.man · 21-04-2021 11:43PM

kollegeknight wrote: »

That was my thinking. All in including calves, I’ve 27 on the 75 acres this year and there is enough distance to keep the bull from them. While prices seem good I reckon the heifers could do with a bit more Time on grass.

Cattle will rise significantly in price.

memorystick · 21-04-2021 11:45PM

What are reared calves worth? See a good few on DD. Can’t buy at the minute but I think it’s a great options especially if you’re only free in the evenings.

Jb1989 · 22-04-2021 12:05AM

kk.man wrote: »

Cattle will rise significantly in price.

Can they rise anymore?

kk.man · 22-04-2021 12:46PM

Jb1989 wrote: »

Can they rise anymore?

4.10 base for steers now... It ant over yet

Dunedin · 22-04-2021 01:16PM

kk.man wrote: »

4.10 base for steers now... It ant over yet

My worry on this that when the pull comes, it comes heavy and quick. I’ll happily eat my words if they’re 4.10 next August-September

kk.man · 22-04-2021 01:21PM

Dunedin wrote: »

My worry on this that when the pull comes, it comes heavy and quick. I’ll happily eat my words if they’re 4.10 next August-September

Fat cattle are extremely scarce and will be till autumn.

tanko · 22-04-2021 01:24PM

The base price should be at least 4.50, the price fixing cartel are screwing us as usual.

Jb1989 · 22-04-2021 01:58PM

kk.man wrote: »

4.10 base for steers now... It ant over yet

I knew the factory was increaseing, tho will the Marts edge up at the same rate as I was referencing to with kollege nights heifers. , they are already dearer than what most of us can kill at with profit.
Saying that I know round here the northern influence buying factory ready in the mart is fairly good.
If all end costs go up then maybe we'll have a good summer.

Dozer1 · 22-04-2021 02:54PM

Running a bit tight on grass these 2 ladies were 640 kgs and 574kgs 3 weeks ago both are 26mths old would I better better off to mart them or horse em nuts for a few weeks.

kk.man · 22-04-2021 03:03PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Running a bit tight on grass these 2 ladies were 640 kgs and 574kgs 3 weeks ago both are 26mths old would I better better off to mart them or horse em nuts for a few weeks.

Will the second one grade an R-.... (open question).. Tbh I don't think weight or age will matter this summer. They r char cross Fr and have the ability to keep into weights without goin over fat. I really like those types.

morphy87 · 22-04-2021 03:29PM

kk.man wrote: »

Will the second one grade an R-.... (open question).. Tbh I don't think weight or age will matter this summer. They r char cross Fr and have the ability to keep into weights without goin over fat. I really like those types.

Why do you think age and weight won’t matter this summer? I know 3 men back my way that would normally have around 400 cattle between them ready off the grass from August onwards, they have no cattle now between the 3 of them, changed their farming systems

Albert Johnson · 22-04-2021 03:39PM

Jb1989 wrote: »

I knew the factory was increaseing, tho will the Marts edge up at the same rate as I was referencing to with kollege nights heifers. , they are already dearer than what most of us can kill at with profit.
Saying that I know round here the northern influence buying factory ready in the mart is fairly good.
If all end costs go up then maybe we'll have a good summer.

I'm hearing of price pulls and reduced demand for fat IE born cattle in the Northern factories recently although it's only from listening to lad's and not first hand experience. The Nomad status issue seems to have disappeared off the radar in recent year's but I don't think it's gone away entirely.

The sole driver behind exporting store or fat cattle to the North is that there cheaper in the Republic. If the live price increases in the South or the factory price reduces in the North then this difference is eroded. The cross border trade for beef stock is a welcome boost but it's not something I'd be totally relying upon at all times.

Albert Johnson · 22-04-2021 03:45PM

I see Dowra mart has cancelled this week's sheep and cattle sales in accordance with "HSE guidelines and as a precautionary measure". I've said it before but I wouldn't envy a mart managers job atm and there's no sign of any more breathing room being allocated as regards restrictions in the short term.

kk.man · 22-04-2021 04:28PM

morphy87 wrote: »

Why do you think age and weight won’t matter this summer? I know 3 men back my way that would normally have around 400 cattle between them ready off the grass from August onwards, they have no cattle now between the 3 of them, changed their farming systems

When cattle are scarce, age etc go out the window. I saw a factory docket 4 weeks ago for what could be described as a load of screws all priced at 4e flat. There was bulls and cows in the mix. This will be a good summer for beef.

Now I admit I'm not a betting man {only a lotto ticket or two) so I'm not putting my house on anything but the omens are good.

Bass Reeves · 22-04-2021 06:20PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Running a bit tight on grass these 2 ladies were 640 kgs and 574kgs 3 weeks ago both are 26mths old would I better better off to mart them or horse em nuts for a few weeks.

Really hard call. As kk said they will carry weight. If they were mine I try to struggle throught the grass shortage unless it's going to run for a while. I be feeding them 3kgs and holding them for 8-10weeks. I killed a heifer like them 2-3 years ago 380kg DW at FS 3+. Feeding nuts even to quality cattle is only a bit with break even at best. Going up a grade may add a bit but that's it

kk.man wrote: »

Will the second one grade an R-.... (open question).. Tbh I don't think weight or age will matter this summer. They r char cross Fr and have the ability to keep into weights without goin over fat. I really like those types.

Ya at present she looks O+/R-. Will be hard to feed her into an R+. Other heifer could feed into a U at 4= but she be fairy heavy at that. Having said all that heifers go fat very fast off May grass along but can then slip back a couple of FS's

Dozer1 · 22-04-2021 06:50PM

thanks All, they are in a bunch of 7 that are a mixed bag, I'll see how weekend goes but currently looking like I'll graze the silage ground next week with the cows & calves as walked it today and it had made very poor progress.

that'll free up ground for these girls plan was to hold em till June and let em off then.
I guess question was will the mart give me the same return now as factory in a 2 months given trade seems on the up in general

Bass Reeves · 22-04-2021 07:18PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

thanks All, they are in a bunch of 7 that are a mixed bag, I'll see how weekend goes but currently looking like I'll graze the silage ground next week with the cows & calves as walked it today and it had made very poor progress.

that'll free up ground for these girls plan was to hold em till June and let em off then.
I guess question was will the mart give me the same return now as factory in a 2 months given trade seems on the up in general

Them sort of heifers can do 1.5+kgs/ day on good grass alone. Say they do 2.2/ kg LW( heavier cattle struggle to hit the really high prices) say they are 600 average mart weight and make 1350 euro each.

In 60 days time allow them to gain 90 kgs each. The better heifer could hang at or over 400 kgs DW and at a base of 4/ kg she could gross over 1700 euro

The other heifer would not gain as much hanging at maybe 350 DW she could hit 1475 euro.

Of course that is all dependent on having them bombing along. I put them on 3kg and grass of maize/barley/ hulls mix if I could

Anto_Meath · 22-04-2021 07:47PM

I hear talk of forward stores & beef been bought for export to Manchester at €2:30 - €2:40/kg lw, that's bound to keep beef prices up for awhile if that carries on

Bass Reeves · 22-04-2021 08:17PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

I hear talk of forward stores & beef been bought for export to Manchester at €2:30 - €2:40/kg lw, that's bound to keep beef prices up for awhile if that carries on

That is all great until October/ November when 4k extra cattle per week start to come on stream. It would be great if it continues. There was an old saying went something like this

It takes a good live export trade to keep life in the dead trade.

josephsoap · 22-04-2021 09:02PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I see Dowra mart has cancelled this week's sheep and cattle sales in accordance with "HSE guidelines and as a precautionary measure". I've said it before but I wouldn't envy a mart managers job atm and there's no sign of any more breathing room being allocated as regards restrictions in the short term.

Would it have been closed on animal welfare grounds or do you think they were shut down for not adhering to Covid guidelines ?

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