WWE Network Thread

PTH2009 · 11-04-2021 3:36pm

The Jericho broken skulls podcast is now up on the network

JP Liz V1 · 11-04-2021 8:23pm

Monokne wrote: »

Trish at 1 is just one of those WOW moments.

I love Trish. But she got over based on her looks. That's it. End of story.

She did develop into an acceptable pro wrestler and a borderline reasonable promo and she deserves credit for that. Really, genuinely does. She also seems like a really wonderful lady.

But by what metric would she hold a candle to Charlotte, Becky or Ronda? She cannot cut a promo or work a match anywhere near their level, never in a match that was featured at anywhere close to PPV main event level, never really involved in a program that was there to draw money. She was a reliable midcard performer when the division was presented in that manner. I mean how many matches did she ever have that were longer than 10 minutes?

There are two rational explanations and the answer is probably a combination - Vince's predilection for that specific look, and Vince & the companies tendency to present the past as superior to the present.

I'm probably putting far too much thought into it but it is just so objectively silly.

Afair Ronda was pretty bad on the mic

Trish and Lita main evented Raw and were in mixed tag matches which at that time was a big deal

11-04-2021 9:47pm

Watched Jericho on Austin's show.

I said earlier in this thread that they won't even mention AEW and I was.... Wrong! They openly talk about it and Jericho talks about it in glowing terms! Tony Khan gets a mention, Cody, Omega, Bucks, Hangman get a mention. There's a picture on the screen of Jericho with the AEW title. Jericho says they're on TNT on Wednesdays. It was actually a great advertisement for AEW.

beakerjoe · 12-04-2021 1:52am

It was noteworthy for the barrier seemingly being broken between AEW and WWE. For me, it was interesting to a point but ultimately nothing we didnt already know about Jericho.

The Ayatolla · 12-04-2021 1:55am

A great watch in fairness.

One thing's for sure, he'll be back in WWE at some point whether that be HOF or as soon as his AEW deal ends.

Necro · 12-04-2021 2:25am

If I'm honest it kinda shows Vince doesn't see AEW as any sort of a threat presently. And that's not a knock, but if he did I don't think it happens given how complimentary Jericho was to AEW.

That's not to say they won't be in the future but at least at this point in time it shows they're not considered as competition imo.

PTH2009 · 13-04-2021 9:35pm

Day of Fastlane following Sheamus is a good watch

Sheamus getting a bit emotional at the end

Monokne · 13-04-2021 9:57pm

Necro wrote: »

If I'm honest it kinda shows Vince doesn't see AEW as any sort of a threat presently. And that's not a knock, but if he did I don't think it happens given how complimentary Jericho was to AEW.

That's not to say they won't be in the future but at least at this point in time it shows they're not considered as competition imo.

The only way they were ever going to be a threat was in giving talent leverage to drive up pay - which they have done - and that is why he put NXT head to head with them, to try and surpress their growth. Clearly he is cognisant of their impact on his business.

But I think people misunderstand the WCW war in hindsight. The WWF very nearly went out of business in 1995 & 1996. Vince's personal net worth was in the 7 figure range and the company lost $5 million in 1995. WCW was a threat. They could have put him out of business and that is what that battle was. It was not just about being the more successful company - it began with the real possibility one or the other company may end up going away. And in a circuitous route, ultimately that is what happened.

WWE is much more cemented in mainstream culture now. FOX & NBC Universal between Raw, SD, NXT, the reality shows & the network are paying them $700 million annually and lean heavily on Vince for content & eyeballs. AEW is not going to put the company out of business or prevent them being massively profitable. There is no threat.

JP Liz V1 · 18-04-2021 8:06pm

https://twitter.com/AETV/status/1383812707271397378

The White Wolf · 18-04-2021 8:09pm

Looks promising, hope the best bits weren't in the trailer.

cena · 18-04-2021 8:17pm

Is still on here tonight

18-04-2021 8:28pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AETV/status/1383812707271397378

Isn't this just on TV in the states and not the network?

Monokne · 18-04-2021 9:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't this just on TV in the states and not the network?

It is. But there are ways and means.

18-04-2021 9:23pm

Monokne wrote: »

It is. But there are ways and means.

Oh yeah definitely

was just wondering why it was posted in the network thread haha

I'd be more interested in the lost memorabilia show. Can't see there being anything new in the Austin biography we don't already know.

JP Liz V1 · 18-04-2021 10:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't this just on TV in the states and not the network?

Is it not on Peacock, the Network

:o

18-04-2021 10:43pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is it not on Peacock, the Network :o

Nah it's on the A&E network in the states.

Monokne · 18-04-2021 11:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh yeah definitely was just wondering why it was posted in the network thread haha

I'd be more interested in the lost memorabilia show. Can't see there being anything new in the Austin biography we don't already know.

"So Steve, I understand you used to beat your ex wife?"

beakerjoe · 19-04-2021 11:21am

Monokne wrote: »

"So Steve, I understand you used to beat your ex wife?"

Now Id love for them to at least address this. They wont.

i shall have to wait for Dark side of the Ring to get involved I suppose.

cena · 19-04-2021 6:10pm

Anyone watch the doc from last night. Nothing really new it but I still got goosebumps from it

Shiminay · 19-04-2021 7:01pm

Cancelled my Sub this morning. I already felt guilty keeping it after last year's Black Wednesday, but for them to have done it 2 years in a row? They can get fupped. I think I'll spend it on OTT and AEW instead.

Monokne · 19-04-2021 7:55pm

Shiminay wrote: »

Cancelled my Sub this morning. I already felt guilty keeping it after last year's Black Wednesday, but for them to have done it 2 years in a row? They can get fupped. I think I'll spend it on OTT and AEW instead.

I don't really get this.

Last year I thought it was awful they let people go when no-one could get any work.

This year, by the time they stop paying these talent on the 16th July, all these people can go and work wherever they want given the US will be 100% open by then. What's the problem?

They are all nice people, I am sure, but if WWE has no use for them, I don't think they owe them a job perpetually. Talent has to move out so new talent can move in. That is the business. Always has been and always will be.

Shiminay · 19-04-2021 8:35pm

They're not paying these people for the next 3 months, where did you get that from?

Cherry_Cola · 19-04-2021 8:39pm

Shiminay wrote: »

They're not paying these people for the next 3 months, where did you get that from?

Yes they are. It's a given in such contracts, they can sit out the 90 days and will get paid for it. They can challenge it if they wish but will forego any payment in that case and it would likely be costly for them in legal fees.

Shiminay · 19-04-2021 8:55pm

That's news to me! I had no idea, thanks for clearing it up. Certainly softens the blow somewhat.

None of it makes for a particularly pleasant story though - citing budget cuts when you announce yet another year of record profits - takes a certain sickness of the soul to think any of that's ok.

Monokne · 19-04-2021 11:38pm

I'm mixed on it. It's never nice for people to lose their jobs but entertainers don't generally get kept on 'just because'. Cassie Lee and Jessie McKay, the ladies behind the characters, seem like really nice people from whenever I have seen them interviewed but if I never ever see the Iiconics wrestle again or hear them do another promo it will be too soon. Should they just be employed in perpetuity even though WWE has decided they've no use for them?

The 'budget cuts' excuse is weak and should rightly be criticised. WWE could literally afford to have a thousand wrestlers under contract but I still just wouldn't advocate it. Would these talent really be happy being paid to sit home, in the long run? Besides which, getting released is not always a bad thing. Plenty of talent have bettered themselves elsewhere or even done well on the outside and ended up back in.

Shiminay · 19-04-2021 11:54pm

I get the Iiconics aren't everyone's cuppa tea, but I really enjoyed what they did and I still struggle to understand why they were broken up only for them to go nowhere and here they are now, being released because "creative has nothing for you" when creative are the reason they're no longer a part of a successful and well-liked team. See also: Heavy Machinery - at least Otis has something going.

Monokne · 20-04-2021 10:27am

Right but you'd hardly suggest that even when they were together they were an integral part of the show?

They had a run, it ran its course, and now they are done.

21-04-2021 2:10pm

cena wrote: »

Anyone watch the doc from last night. Nothing really new it but I still got goosebumps from it

I turned it off after half an hour (the Austin doc). The same stories I've heard 50 times before and told in the exact same way.

PTH2009 · 21-04-2021 4:48pm

Enjoyed the Austin documentary. He was a lot more athletic than I thought. Reckon he had to work off all that drinking

The way he retired was fitting and he wasn't egotistical about it in terms of send off matches/tours

hynesie08 · 21-04-2021 5:23pm

Watching the austin doc, man Vince mcmahon sounds unwell these days, I know he's 75 but jesus.

Agent Coulson · 21-04-2021 5:36pm

Vince over doing the Botox and fillers as well trying to stay young looking.

Monokne · 21-04-2021 10:37pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Enjoyed the Austin documentary. He was a lot more athletic than I thought. Reckon he had to work off all that drinking

The way he retired was fitting and he wasn't egotistical about it in terms of send off matches/tours

Did you torrent it or where did you see it?

montyrebel · 23-04-2021 5:38pm

not network per se but most wanted treasures is a nice easy watch, pretty much just a wwe version of american pickers etc but passes the time easily

Agent Coulson · 23-04-2021 5:41pm

How many episodes will feature Conrad and his collection I wonder.

montyrebel · 23-04-2021 5:47pm

yeah will defo see the same faces a few times over the series

24-04-2021 1:24pm

I'm actually surprised by how much I'm enjoying 1992 WWF Superstars episodes.

Every match is just a 2-3 minute squash with promos in between but it's an easy watch for 45 mins. Really makes me hope now that they can settle the issues with not being able to put Superstars episodes from the late 80's/early 90's on there.

What was the A show in the 80's/90's? Wrestling Challenge or Superstars?

Itssoeasy · 24-04-2021 1:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm actually surprised by how much I'm enjoying 1992 WWF Superstars episodes.

Every match is just a 2-3 minute squash with promos in between but it's an easy watch for 45 mins. Really makes me hope now that they can settle the issues with not being able to put Superstars episodes from the late 80's/early 90's on there.

What was the A show in the 80's/90's? Wrestling Challenge or Superstars?

Didn’t that guy who owns the right to the name superstars die ?
Superstars was the A show until raw came along in early 1993.

24-04-2021 3:09pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Didn’t that guy who owns the right to the name superstars die ?
Superstars was the A show until raw came along in early 1993.

I'm not sure tbh. I know they haven't been able to get the rights to it though. Shame not having the weekly show for one of their golden eras (86-91) on the network.

Headshot · 24-04-2021 10:08pm

montyrebel wrote: »

not network per se but most wanted treasures is a nice easy watch, pretty much just a wwe version of american pickers etc but passes the time easily

Just watched it there

It's okay but Vince looks brilliant for his age

24-04-2021 10:40pm

I just thought the items were crap on the treasures show except for the original Mankind shirt.

A random Mr Socko and they were looking for a Cactus Jack flannel but got one that Mick wore in a few segments in 2004. Hardly a Cactus Jack original. Then the lad gets to take a burnt barbed wire 2x4 supposedly from Rumble 2000 even though they didn't use fire in that match?

Maybe I'm taking the show a bit too seriously :pac:

montyrebel · 28-04-2021 11:53pm

biography of piper was great imo, well worth checking out, sadly not on the network

30-04-2021 9:25pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just thought the items were crap on the treasures show except for the original Mankind shirt.

A random Mr Socko and they were looking for a Cactus Jack flannel but got one that Mick wore in a few segments in 2004. Hardly a Cactus Jack original. Then the lad gets to take a burnt barbed wire 2x4 supposedly from Rumble 2000 even though they didn't use fire in that match?

Maybe I'm taking the show a bit too seriously :pac:

The 2nd episode was much better and the kind of stuff I was hoping they'd get, unique items like Taker's phantom mask and his purple gear.

TimesArrow · 02-05-2021 5:44pm

Really enjoyed the Michaels/ Nash Untold.. intersting how Nash was champ before HBK and it caused some tension

PTH2009 · 02-05-2021 8:09pm

TimesArrow wrote: »

Really enjoyed the Michaels/ Nash Untold.. intersting how Nash was champ before HBK and it caused some tension

90s HBK was def a C you next tuesday

oneilla · 15-05-2021 3:45pm

WON - "There is a new deal in the U.K. where you can get the WWE Network (which still
exists outside the U.S.) on a three month deal for 99 pence per month ($1.39 U.S.). Obviously the idea is to try and build subscriber numbers rather than
make money with it with the idea of finding a U.K. streaming service to buy it from them, since the new goal now is to sell territorial rights to the network to bigger companies who pay them more than they make with the network on their
own"

What streaming company in the UK could even pay for streaming rights?

Is NowTV big enough? Could they do business again with Sky? Amazon Prime?

Itssoeasy · 15-05-2021 4:18pm

oneilla wrote: »

WON - "There is a new deal in the U.K. where you can get the WWE Network (which still
exists outside the U.S.) on a three month deal for 99 pence per month ($1.39 U.S.). Obviously the idea is to try and build subscriber numbers rather than
make money with it with the idea of finding a U.K. streaming service to buy it from them, since the new goal now is to sell territorial rights to the network to bigger companies who pay them more than they make with the network on their
own"

What streaming company in the UK could even pay for streaming rights? Is NowTV big enough? Could they do business again with Sky? Amazon Prime?

I did see that offer. I had the

expression over the whole offer and why it was been done. I mean if they are going to have different providers in different areas it’s not going to be very user friendly if you go on holidays for example. That’s why the network as it was set up was handy because it worked everywhere and there was no having to work around to get it other places.

Agent Coulson · 15-05-2021 4:59pm

DAZN maybe.

They were going to bid for the Premier League rights this time round but have been blocked from do that by the UK Government allowing the Premier League to rollover the rights to SKY, BT & Amazon.

Also with BT wanting to sell off it's sports catalogue DAZN might try and build up it's portfolio here before the next round of bidding for football in 2025 as all they have is boxing.

JP Liz V1 · 16-05-2021 7:38pm

https://twitter.com/WWETheBump/status/1393997447656099842

04-07-2021 12:20am

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=148439

Ridiculous. They've been advertising the Lex doc all week on twitter and do this the day before it's due to air. Was looking forward to watching it.

Itssoeasy · 04-07-2021 12:47am

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=148439

Ridiculous. They've been advertising the Lex doc all week on twitter and do this the day before it's due to air. Was looking forward to watching it.

It’s not being uploaded tomorrow ? Ah **** it anyway. Pre peacock the network uploads used to be somewhat timely. From the clips I’ve seen and from just hearing lex Lugers interviews in the recent past, it was going to be a very retrospective and honest interview.

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