Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

jellies · 13-04-2021 06:04PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Im sure there are ways to put them up. My island idea is looking better.

Absolutely. They should be them all on Ireland's Eye with the gannets so that we can all keep going with our kegs of beer (flying out the door), house parties, and sheebeens, the odd trip to Lanzarote via Belfast without worrying about all this COVID stuff.

13-04-2021 06:05PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Where did you get that?

just now.....bookings have been suspended and “Mr Donnelly said that airlines will be contacted and asked not to let passengers on from high risk countries who do not have a booking on the system.”

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 06:07PM

Jack1985 wrote: »

You can't stop the free movement of EU Citizens.

Ireland can. See below..

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/147/free-movement-of-persons

faceman · 13-04-2021 06:08PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Yes you can. Holy **** how many times does this need to be explained?

Freedom of movement does not come without conditions or allowances. Countries can close their borders. IRELAND, the country we live in, retained its external borders.

Ireland isn’t closing its borders due to the pandemic. Capacity in hotels doesn’t fall in to the category of health grounds. Check it out

13-04-2021 06:11PM

faceman wrote: »

Ireland isn’t closing its borders due to the pandemic. Capacity in hotels doesn’t fall in to the category of health grounds. Check it out

Where did I say they were?

User made incorrect statement, I corrected it.

Again however, Ireland retained control of its borders

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 06:12PM

They can restrict flights..

13-04-2021 06:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

just now.....bookings have been suspended and “Mr Donnelly said that airlines will be contacted and asked not to let passengers on from high risk countries who do not have a booking on the system.”

Lunacy.

I would hope the AG and other advisers will point out the issue there soon enough.

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 06:16PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Lunacy.

I would hope the AG and other advisers will point out the issue there soon enough.

Not at all. People coming here without tests yet!

faceman · 13-04-2021 06:19PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Not at all. People coming here without tests yet!

I’m beginning to think your name is Alan Kelly

Feria40 · 13-04-2021 06:19PM

Christ what a sh1t show.

Think I'll pop back over to the "Would you ever consider moving to continental Europe" thread and dream!

This is too depressing

jellies · 13-04-2021 06:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

just now.....bookings have been suspended and “Mr Donnelly said that airlines will be contacted and asked not to let passengers on from high risk countries who do not have a booking on the system.”

Thats fantastic. Let's bankrupt Irish airlines, put everyone involved in that industry on the dole and force everyone to fly home via London/Belfast. Just in case they hadn't figured that out for themselves already.

Feria40 · 13-04-2021 06:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

just now.....bookings have been suspended and “Mr Donnelly said that airlines will be contacted and asked not to let passengers on from high risk countries who do not have a booking on the system.”

Asked or told? Too different things. If an Irish citizen or resident or anyone else for that arrives and there is no space, then what?. Deportation?

Happydays2020 · 13-04-2021 06:24PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Yes you can. Holy **** how many times does this need to be explained?

Freedom of movement does not come without conditions or allowances. Countries can close their borders. IRELAND, the country we live in, retained its external borders.

Incorrect. You have been peddling that line for a long time.

Freedom of movement is a right as an EU citizen. Showing papers at a border is different.

CHARTER OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

Article 45

Freedom of movement and of residence

1. Every citizen of the Union has the right to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States.

2. Freedom of movement and residence may be granted, in accordance with the Treaties, to nationals of third countries legally resident in the territory of a Member State.

BobbyBolivia · 13-04-2021 06:24PM

I hope they get absolutely annihilated in Irish Courts and get a severe dressing down from the EU.

Abolutely disgusting, shameful stuff.

Jack1985 · 13-04-2021 06:25PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Where did I say they were?

User made incorrect statement, I corrected it.

Again however, Ireland retained control of its borders

Not looking for an argument but you just took my post and ran with it.

You can't stop free movement within the EU (There's many legal interpretations to that) - Prevention of movement due to capacity would fall under that statement.

13-04-2021 06:27PM

Feria40 wrote: »

Asked or told? Too different things. If an Irish citizen or resident or anyone else for that arrives and there is no space, then what?. Deportation?

very good question. held in the airport I guess. Probably in an immigration interview room, until hotel room can be found.

However long that is

Del Griffith · 13-04-2021 06:28PM

So every single person that's legal challenged the mandatory prison hotel has been released.

The Government very blatantly doesn't want the court to examine the constitutionality.

Mr. Karate · 13-04-2021 06:39PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Everything is going really well I see :pac:

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1382017961377030155

So all incoming flights have to circle the Island until Monday when the ones still in MHQ are released?

I'm sure the Environmentalists will love that.

Hellrazer · 13-04-2021 06:51PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

So every single person that's legal challenged the mandatory prison hotel has been released.

The Government very blatantly doesn't want the court to examine the constitutionality.

Exactly - theyre scared ****less because this would bring the government down.

josip · 13-04-2021 06:53PM

Government considers delay to Pfizer second dose

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-considers-delay-to-secondpfizer-jab-to-allow-more-people-to-get-first-dose-40309563.html

Win win for the govt here, because it will also mean that the people getting Pfizer will be fully vaccinated later and won't be eligible for the EU travel cert in the summer.
I know it sounds like it belongs in the conspiracy forum, but after what they did virtually closing the passport office, nothing would surprise me.

Happydays2020 · 13-04-2021 07:08PM

josip wrote: »

Government considers delay to Pfizer second dose

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-considers-delay-to-secondpfizer-jab-to-allow-more-people-to-get-first-dose-40309563.html

Win win for the govt here, because it will also mean that the people getting Pfizer will be fully vaccinated later and won't be eligible for the EU travel cert in the summer.
I know it sounds like it belongs in the conspiracy forum, but after what they did virtually closing the passport office, nothing would surprise me.

To be fair to them I think that is a stretch in terms of motivation. There was probably merit in this in any event and it means that more will have some protection sooner.

bikeman1 · 13-04-2021 07:24PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

This MHQ has to stop immediately. It was a joke from day 1 and is rapidly descending into a total farce.

> Politicians exempt.

> Airline / HGV / Maritime crews exempt.

> Elite Sports Stars somewhat exempt.

> Passengers sitting on the same row of seats as someone who is transiting through a non red list country are grand. The other is not.

> We will spend €1m on certain students in the new EU countries if they want to come home. Locking up healthy young students making their lives even more miserable.

> Vaccinated people locked up.

> Court cases being demanded taking up valuable court time and then not allowing the hearings and closing the case on humanitarian grounds. While some people can't attend the funeral of their parents and have to stay locked away while testing negative 3 times in a week?

This charade has to stop. People need to travel and that's that. Hunt down the variants if they are here and sequence all cases from SA and South America, but stop forcing our residents and citizens into a hotel to pretend it solves the problem, it does not.

It didn’t take long, I need to update my earlier list with an additional point:

> MHQ is already full because some clown of a Minister added EU countries without a second thought. Bookings closed “to update” the system to add more rooms.

It has officially reached farce level now. What an embarrassment of a Health Minister we have. Hope he gets a few more tweets.

13-04-2021 07:29PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

It didn’t take long, I need to update my earlier list with an additional point:

> MHQ is already full because some clown of a Minister added EU countries without a second thought. Bookings closed “to update” the system to add more rooms.

It has officially reached farce level now. What an embarrassment of a Health Minister we have. Hope he gets a few more tweets.

But more rooms are going to be added at the same time as more countries, right? Or are we done now?

Darwin · 13-04-2021 07:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But more rooms are going to be added at the same time as more countries, right? Or are we done now?

I think Donnelly said he has a few bunk beds he can put out in his back garden shed :pac:

Mr. Karate · 13-04-2021 07:49PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

It didn’t take long, I need to update my earlier list with an additional point:

> MHQ is already full because some clown of a Minister added EU countries without a second thought. Bookings closed “to update” the system to add more rooms.

It has officially reached farce level now. What an embarrassment of a Health Minister we have. Hope he gets a few more tweets.

That same clown of a Minister also added Countries like US, Canada, UK, Israel and other Countries that he had no business adding. MHQ should have been only to Countries with serious variants that would need quarantining. This update was purely political and had nothing to do with health and safety.

To quote the Angry Video Game Nerd. "WHAT A **** LOAD OF ****!!!!"

themacattack. · 13-04-2021 08:05PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

It didn’t take long, I need to update my earlier list with an additional point:

> MHQ is already full because some clown of a Minister added EU countries without a second thought. Bookings closed “to update” the system to add more rooms.

It has officially reached farce level now. What an embarrassment of a Health Minister we have. Hope he gets a few more tweets.

i wonder if all the people on this tread that support MHQ(which is very little thank god) still think it was a good idea or did they not bank on stephen donnelly making a complete pigs ear of it...laughable joke of a system...

Micky 32 · 13-04-2021 08:05PM

Darwin wrote: »

I think Donnelly said he has a few bunk beds he can put out in his back garden shed :pac:

He’ll have to move out the trampoline first to fit them in :pac:

13-04-2021 08:11PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

That same clown of a Minister also added Countries like US, Canada, UK, Israel and other Countries that he had no business adding. MHQ should have been only to Countries with serious variants that would need quarantining. This update was purely political and had nothing to do with health and safety.

To quote the Angry Video Game Nerd. "WHAT A **** LOAD OF ****!!!!"

The quotes in my head are m more along the lines of Ricky from Trailer Park Boys

And Donnelly is Mr Lahey

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 08:11PM

themacattack. wrote: »

i wonder if all the people on this tread that support MHQ(which is very little thank god) still think it was a good idea or did they not bank on stephen donnelly making a complete pigs ear of it...laughable joke of a system...

It is a good idea. Like everything it needs improvement.

themacattack. · 13-04-2021 08:13PM

saabsaab wrote: »

It is a good idea. Like everything it needs improvement.

bit of sticky tape and she be grand...donnelly will definitley not make it worse im sure...defo a safe pair of hands

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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