Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

13-04-2021 03:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

FDA Presser
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1381970943661146117?s=21

I see Peter Marks is one of the FDA physicians on the call - they are trolling those looking for a haircut.

Interesting listening - one of the themes seems to be to give time to get information out on diagnosis and treatment of adverse events and will only be a matter of days

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 03:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Review to last “a matter of days” according to FDA commissioner

Just caught the last part of the statements there, thought I heard them say that.

They don't sound too concerned. Seems to be more so that they can update the advice to clinicians around it

Red Silurian · 13-04-2021 03:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Review to last “a matter of days” according to FDA commissioner

If that's all it is then that's not too bad

PhilOssophy · 13-04-2021 03:20PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

Why not let us make our own minds up, on both AZ and J&J? 1 death in 6m cases I'd take my chances but I'd fully respect somebody who won't take that chance

Yep, we're soon going to have to move to a "Hands up who wants it". I'll take it - 1 death in 6m, I like those odds. Probably similar to the odds of me being knocked down by a car when I walk out of my house in the morning.

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 03:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I see Peter Marks is one of the FDA physicians on the call - they are trolling those looking for a haircut.

Interesting listening - one of the themes seems to be to give time to get information out on diagnosis and treatment of adverse events and will only be a matter of days

Yeah thats what I'm gathering from it. Seems to be an emphasis on ensuring the correct clinical guidance is in place

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:20PM

They seem to be taking the pause to simply advise treatment and diagnosis

PhilOssophy · 13-04-2021 03:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

NPHET licking their lips, anything to keep them relevant and the payday accumulating. Between AZ and J&J meeting unwarranted scepticism, we're losing weeks if not months of our summer. Depressing beyond measure.

Yes, because they'd all be on the dole without this pandemic....

darem93 · 13-04-2021 03:23PM

In the name of god, the EU/Irish vaccine rollout really is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of how messy its been.

Allinall · 13-04-2021 03:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

NPHET licking their lips, anything to keep them relevant and the payday accumulating. Between AZ and J&J meeting unwarranted scepticism, we're losing weeks if not months of our summer. Depressing beyond measure.

What payday?

they get paid regardless of whether we are in lockdown or not.

Necro · 13-04-2021 03:24PM

Threads merged

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 03:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They seem to be taking the pause to simply advise treatment and diagnosis

Didn't something similar happen with EMA?

Advice was updated to reflect rare risks of blood clots

Yet NIAC and other countries regulatory bodies then stopped use for a variety of ages in our case 16-60 and 70+

13-04-2021 03:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They seem to be taking the pause to simply advise treatment and diagnosis

What is wrong with these US journalists - not one question on weddings yet

PTH2009 · 13-04-2021 03:33PM

Bye bye summer

We're in a worse position with the vaccines than we were without them

13-04-2021 03:33PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Bye bye summer

We're in a worse position with the vaccines than we were without them

Bizarre

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:36PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Bye bye summer

We're in a worse position with the vaccines than we were without them

Good one

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 13-04-2021 03:37PM

Sure until a few days ago we weren't expecting J&J until the 19th anyway. It's just disappointing because it was brought forward and then suspended. We'll get it next week anyway.

jvoom500 · 13-04-2021 03:41PM

Perhaps a stupid question - I'm a healthcare worker, young, no underlying conditions. I received my first dose of AstraZeneca a few weeks ago and worked out, with the 12 week gap, I'd get my second the last week of May. Now that the gap has been extended to 16 weeks, that'll mean my second dose is now end of June/early July - but I won't be in the country by then ... lol? I'm emigrating early June. Is it a possibility to request my second dose at the initial 12 week mark? Otherwise... it was kind of a "waste" of a dose?

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 03:44PM

Why would they give you another vaccine at 12 weeks when you're gone less than a month later?

That's a waste of a second vaccine dose

Bit cynical · 13-04-2021 03:44PM

Furze99 wrote: »

We're a first world country with first world expectations. If there is a choice of vaccines on the market and questions marks over some, clearly we should avoid those latter. That's a reasonable position to hold. Of course, supply comes into it but there's a price on everything.

Supply is the key issue though. Decisions are being made as if we have an abundance of vaccine doses from which to choose but that is not the case.

13-04-2021 03:45PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why would they give you another vaccine at 12 weeks when you're gone less than a month later?

That's a waste of a second vaccine dose

Gone where?

Strazdas · 13-04-2021 03:47PM

jvoom500 wrote: »

Perhaps a stupid question - I'm a healthcare worker, young, no underlying conditions. I received my first dose of AstraZeneca a few weeks ago and worked out, with the 12 week gap, I'd get my second the last week of May. Now that the gap has been extended to 16 weeks, that'll mean my second dose is now end of June/early July - but I won't be in the country by then ... lol? I'm emigrating early June. Is it a possibility to request my second dose at the initial 12 week mark? Otherwise... it was kind of a "waste" of a dose?

You could contact them and ask if it would be possible to be brought forward by four weeks to the 12 week point along with the other AZ recipients.

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 03:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Gone where?

Don't know but the poster is emigrating early June

Economics101 · 13-04-2021 03:52PM

Originally Posted by KrustyUCC

Why would they give you another vaccine at 12 weeks when you're gone less than a month later?

That's a waste of a second vaccine dose

Vaccines are given to people for their own protection. It would be wrong to deny a potential emigrant. It might save them the need to do 2 weeks mandatory hotel quarantine at destination. And if they are not "officially" vaccinated here that will be two doses in some other country which could have immunised someone else.
Such small-mindedness.

13-04-2021 03:53PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Don't know but the poster is emigrating early June

I missed the post you were replying to so didnt get the context of "gone".

Why would someone resident here getting a vaccine they are entitled to be a waste of vaccine?

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:54PM

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1381983150537113601?s=21

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 03:56PM

Economics101 wrote: »

Originally Posted by KrustyUCC

Vaccines are given to people for their own protection. It would be wrong to deny a potential emigrant. It might save them the need to do 2 weeks mandatory hotel quarantine at destination. And if they are not "officially" vaccinated here that will be two doses in some other country which could have immunised someone else.
Such small-mindedness.

Why in hell would we still be protecting somebody for another country to benefit when there's such a sizeable proportion of our society unvaccinated?

That dose could provide good protection to somebody else

Strazdas · 13-04-2021 03:58PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1381983150537113601?s=21

Interesting : that might suggest the start to the EU rollout will only be slightly delayed.

bucketybuck · 13-04-2021 04:00PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why in hell would we still be protecting somebody for another country to benefit when there's such a sizeable proportion of our society unvaccinated?

That dose could provide good protection to somebody else

There is your gratitude for our "front line heroes" right there.

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 04:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I missed the post you were replying to so didnt get the context of "gone".

Why would someone resident here getting a vaccine they are entitled to be a waste of vaccine?

That poster is young, healthy and wouldn't be getting the vaccine at the moment after yesterday going from 16 weeks to 12 weeks

they'd be out of the country by then

I have no doubt that poster will probably get the vaccine before they go but i'd prefer to see it used on somebody else for their first dose

rm212 · 13-04-2021 04:02PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why in hell would we still be protecting somebody for another country to benefit when there's such a sizeable proportion of our society unvaccinated?

That dose could provide good protection to somebody else

Christ almighty... they are likely a citizen of Ireland for god sake, it doesn't matter if they are leaving the country... in fact it doesn't even matter what country they are a citizen of - they are a human. They are currently here in Ireland and they're just as entitled to get the protection of a vaccine as anyone else.

You think vaccinating someone who has been working in healthcare in our country shouldn't be given a vaccine just because they're emigrating?

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