Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Necro · 13-04-2021 02:31PM

brendanwalsh threadbanned permanently as well as forum banned for obvious reasons

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 02:32PM

J&J delaying to allow review
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356?s=20

funnydoggy · 13-04-2021 02:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

J&J delaying to allow review
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356?s=20

I'm telling myself that these are good things, which they are.

Hospital metrics are going down rapidly too.

There is light there. Last summer was nice. We have vaccines this time too.

Sanjuro · 13-04-2021 02:40PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

I'm telling myself that these are good things, which they are.

Hospital metrics are going down rapidly too.

There is light there. Last summer was nice. We have vaccines this time too.

Chin up. It's tough. But we're in a far better place now than we were a week, a month, six months ago. We'll get there.

titan18 · 13-04-2021 02:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

J&J delaying to allow review
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356?s=20

I'd kind of prefer they sent as normal and let the country choose. Better to have them in stock and ready to go if it's paused rather than sitting in their factory.

TheChosenOne_ · 13-04-2021 02:43PM

Hi all I just have a question relating to vaccine.

I received a text message this morning from a mobile number saying that I have been put forward for a vaccination at Conolly Hospital and will be contacted about appointment in coming weeks.

I'm just wondering if this is one of those scam/fake messages? Just seemed a bit odd

Furze99 · 13-04-2021 02:46PM

We're a first world country with first world expectations. If there is a choice of vaccines on the market and questions marks over some, clearly we should avoid those latter. That's a reasonable position to hold. Of course, supply comes into it but there's a price on everything.

13-04-2021 02:50PM

titan18 wrote: »

I'd kind of prefer they sent as normal and let the country choose. Better to have them in stock and ready to go if it's paused rather than sitting in their factory.

"Ladies and Gentleman of the Jury, while under review in the US, the defendant knowingly released the product in a new market"

I would imagine its down to potential litigation.

13-04-2021 02:52PM

I do have this nagging doubt that the regulatory bodies are reacting to get ahead of the anti-vaxxers who will leap on any individual case rather than purely on the data. I hope its not the case

Klonker · 13-04-2021 02:52PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Every man and woman deserves a MRNA vaccine.

Send the bag of dung AZ vaccines to the deepest darkest pits of Africa as part of COVAX, and give Pfizer whatever they want for the good stuff.

I know this post is shocking but the poster is making a good point though I don't think it's the point he was trying to make.

If NIAC say AstraZeneca is a good vaccine, which they are saying, but we only think it's worth the risk in the 60-70 when we have other safer vaccines then what do they propose we do with the leftover AZ vaccines? What if all Europe do the same? Are we going to just waste all the leftover vaccines or will send them to poorer countries in Africa? Is it the case that the 1 in 200,000 risk of serious bloodclot is not an acceptable risk here in Europe but it is for Africa where the risk of coronavirus seems to be less? There is an ethical question here that I'm sure NIAC or other countries equivalents didn't think about but maybe they should.

If we don't use the AZ vacccines and now possibly J&J too and wait longer for more Pfizer and others, this will cost us some lives here through the time delay in getting vaccinated but also cost lives in other countries waiting behind us in the vaccine que too. Or do we expect them to use the AZ we don't want because its not safe enough for us but ye boys in the 3rd world can't be picky.

ddarcy · 13-04-2021 02:55PM

TheChosenOne_ wrote: »

Hi all I just have a question relating to vaccine.

I received a text message this morning from a mobile number saying that I have been put forward for a vaccination at Conolly Hospital and will be contacted about appointment in coming weeks.

I'm just wondering if this is one of those scam/fake messages? Just seemed a bit odd

I think some of the Dublin and cork hospitals are sending out this pre-text that you will get contacted later. The HSE will text you though when it’s time. That’s an 087 number if they are using the same countrywide.

Gael23 · 13-04-2021 02:56PM

J&J delaying EU rollout until US pause ends

Widescreen · 13-04-2021 02:57PM

TheChosenOne_ wrote: »

Hi all I just have a question relating to vaccine.

I received a text message this morning from a mobile number saying that I have been put forward
for a vaccination at Conolly Hospital and will be contacted about appointment in coming weeks.

I'm just wondering if this is one of those scam/fake messages? Just seemed a bit odd

I got vaccine last week, got the text only 24 hrs before. All the text mentions is my name and to say yes or no to the appointment and gives a phone number to ring if any questions. I think once they don't look for personal info from you it is genuine, thats my take.

Strazdas · 13-04-2021 02:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

J&J delaying to allow review
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356?s=20

The one good piece of news here is that deliveries to EU states haven't even started yet,

TheChosenOne_ · 13-04-2021 03:00PM

ddarcy wrote: »

I think some of the Dublin and cork hospitals are sending out this pre-text that you will get contacted later. The HSE will text you though when it’s time. That’s an 087 number if they are using the same countrywide.

Yeah it's an 087 number and it just asks to reply YES or NO to whether you need an appointment.
Just wasn't 100% sure of the legitimacy of it, but good to hear that

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 03:02PM

Strazdas wrote: »

The one good piece of news here is that deliveries to EU states haven't even started yet,

14k due in this week here. But yeah small numbers for the next few weeks

lbj666 · 13-04-2021 03:02PM

Strazdas wrote: »

The one good piece of news here is that deliveries to EU states haven't even started yet,

And in truth it was never going to get going proper until June.

dublin_paul · 13-04-2021 03:02PM

Link?

is_that_so · 13-04-2021 03:04PM

dublin_paul wrote: »

Link?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0413/1209624-coronavirus-vaccine-johnson-and-johnson/

newboard · 13-04-2021 03:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I do have this nagging doubt that the regulatory bodies are reacting to get ahead of the anti-vaxxers who will leap on any individual case rather than purely on the data. I hope its not the case

And of course the anti-vaxxers will perceive suspension for review as an indication of culpability as opposed to demonstrating how serious they're taking safety by stopping the entire rollout based on what is still a very minuscule number of cases per capita.

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:06PM

FDA Presser
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1381970943661146117?s=21

corkonion · 13-04-2021 03:06PM

So USA vaccinated more than the whole of Ireland with J+j (6.8 million doses) and 1 women died... maybe from the vaccine, maybe not.
The world is gone mad. Is it a pandemic or not?
If it is, they should vaccinate us... I’m seriously starting to think the conspiracy theorists are right.

munchkin_utd · 13-04-2021 03:07PM

All six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48, and the symptoms occurred six to 13 days after vaccination.

and that from over 6 million doses.

so it sounds almost identical to the rare issues with AZ .

Can they not just vaccinate >50s and get some progress on the matter. I'd still take J+J tomorrow if offered. Actually, if there was a dose waiting in the local vaccination centre I'd go there now this minute for it.

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:09PM

https://twitter.com/jdiamond1/status/1381972045572018182?s=21

brickster69 · 13-04-2021 03:09PM

J&J is the other non profit one along with AZ

funnydoggy · 13-04-2021 03:12PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jdiamond1/status/1381972045572018182?s=21

The people that need to hear this won't hear it unfortunately.

Lmkrnr · 13-04-2021 03:12PM

They want to keep up locked down.

Bit cynical · 13-04-2021 03:13PM

It will probably turn out that they messed up the contract in some way like they did with AZ and are using questionable safety concerns as a smokescreen.

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2021 03:16PM

Review to last “a matter of days” according to FDA commissioner

Red Silurian · 13-04-2021 03:18PM

Why not let us make our own minds up, on both AZ and J&J? 1 death in 6m cases I'd take my chances but I'd fully respect somebody who won't take that chance

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