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  • #212
    Parachutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Ah right, so nothing really? Waving a placard around and then running away when the guards show up :pac:

    I thought with the tough talk you were being a bit more serious, ah well.

    Grand so, well look you have the freedom to #standfirm. You do you and I’ll do me.


  • #213
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Parachutes wrote: »
    Political protest and protest through non-compliance. I make no apology, freedom is a god given right, not something that can be taken away at a whim by the likes of Michael Martin, Varadkar and their cronies.



    That'll teach em


  • #214
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    That Vox piece made sense to me in relation to the efficacy of all the vaccines in the trials in preventing hospitalisation and worse.

    Yeah I thought it was a very succinct way of explaining it. It would take me 5 thousand words and I'd leave the readers more confused than when they started!


  • #215
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Parachutes wrote: »
    Grand so, well look you have the freedom to #standfirm. You do you and I’ll do me.

    I went for a pint today, I'm not worried about my freedom!


  • #216
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


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  • #217
    Parachutes
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I went for a pint today, I'm not worried about my freedom!

    Certainly not in Ireland.


  • #218
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Parachutes wrote: »
    Certainly not in Ireland.

    I never claimed I was in Ireland.


  • #219
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,159 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ronan Glynn has just said on Claire Byrne that the new advice should not unduly affect the rollout.


  • #220
    Parachutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    That'll teach em

    Take of that mask and get some oxygen before you lose your last brain cell.


  • #221
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    What does this lads pint have to do with vaccines?


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  • #222
    Parachutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I never claimed I was in Ireland.

    You are aware this is an Irish message board?


  • #223
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    This whole thing about more people dying long term from the vaccine than from the virus.. anything to back this up?


  • #224
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    This whole thing about more people dying long term from the vaccine than from the virus.. anything to back this up?

    Which whole thing? You'll need to be more specific :pac:


  • #225
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    Ronan Glynn has just said on Claire Byrne that the new advice should not unduly affect the rollout.

    Claire Byrne says there are 400,000 sixty to 69 year olds in the country, so that could easily use up the full quota with the two doses.


  • #226
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Parachutes wrote: »
    You are aware this is an Irish message board?

    I've been posting here for over a decade, yes I know it's an Irish message board :rolleyes:


  • #227
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Parachutes wrote: »
    Take of that mask and get some oxygen before you lose your last brain cell.
    :

    Jeez....you'll go far in the debating society.....I take it you're just trolling?????


  • #228
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I'll buy citizenship somewhere, Portugal for example if you buy a property or invest in a business will give citizenship for your whole family for the price of a 3 bed semi in Dublin.

    I'll go anywhere without mandatory vaccinations or mandatory facemasks.

    You're aware face masks are mandatory in Portugal?


  • #229
    Strumms
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    Parachutes wrote: »
    Political protest and protest through non-compliance. I make no apology, freedom is a god given right, not something that can be taken away at a whim by the likes of Michael Martin, Varadkar and their cronies.

    Freedom isn’t a god given right...

    We don’t have freedoms to....

    1. Drive through a red light

    2. Walk out of a supermarket without paying for what’s in our trolley

    3. Play loud music at 3am

    4. Attend and enroll in a college course without the necessary qualifying factors.

    5. Assault people we dislike or disagree with or who have hurt us.

    We are in this situation and we need to suck it up and continue on the pathway of safety and health for all. Tough times, tough measures, be a team player.


  • #230
    Economics101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Economics101


    The NIAC recommendation seems to be a panic reaction. Instead of re-assuring people it will give further credence to anti-vaxxers. Remember that previously the AZ vaccine was ruled out for the over-70s: why? Now ruled out for the under-60s: why? The implication is that it's OK just for the 60-69s. Crazy stuff.

    The EMA, which is the authorising/regulating body we rely on, has said the vaccine is basically OK for all age groups. An interesting study from the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication at Cambridge gives a good summary of the risks and benefits: https://wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/communicating-potential-benefits-and-harms-astra-zeneca-covid-19-vaccine/ This has also been published by the UK regulatory agency, the MHRA. Between them I reckon this lot know much more than our follow-the-herd types.

    The only group for which there might be a real case for restriction is the under-30s, and then only if the prevalence of the disease is very low.


  • #231
    josip
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I've been posting here for over a decade, yes I know it's an Irish message board :rolleyes:


    Re-reg :)


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  • #232
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I'll buy citizenship somewhere, Portugal for example if you buy a property or invest in a business will give citizenship for your whole family for the price of a 3 bed semi in Dublin.

    I'll go anywhere without mandatory vaccinations or mandatory facemasks.

    You might want to do a bit.more research before you jump ship ;)


  • #233
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    josip wrote: »
    Re-reg :)

    Yup had 1st account for a few years then closed that and opened this one :D


  • #234
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Miike wrote: »
    Which whole thing? You'll need to be more specific :pac:

    The stat itself, is it accurate? :pac:


  • #235
    Beasty
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    Why slow down the over 60s .......they're getting Astra Zeneca and there's lots in stock. Give it to them
    Agreed
    vienne86 wrote: »
    and get rid of them.
    :eek:


  • #236
    [Deleted User]
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Claire Byrne says there are 400,000 sixty to 69 year olds in the country, so that could easily use up the full quota with the two doses.

    We're getting 480k doses of AZ in April and May, so all over 60s could receive a first dose in that time. It's really not so bad. Maybe the 50-59 groups could be opened up before the 60-69s finish, so we can keep the supply of Pfizer and Moderna moving.


  • #237
    Parachutes
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    Strumms wrote: »
    Freedom isn’t a god given right...

    We don’t have freedoms to....

    1. Drive through a red light

    2. Walk out of a supermarket without paying for what’s in our trolley

    3. Play loud music at 3am

    4. Attend and enroll in a college course without the necessary qualifying factors.

    5. Assault people we dislike or disagree with or who have hurt us.

    We are in this situation and we need to suck it up and continue on the pathway of safety and health for all. Tough times, tough measures, be a team player.

    That’s the argument now. We have to continue lockdown because we don’t have complete freedom to murder people or drive through a red light :rolleyes:


  • #238
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    The stat itself, is it accurate? :pac:

    It's about as accurate as Bill Gates injecting us with 5G modems. What ever happened to that utter twat spouting about how COVID tests give you cancer? Must have been a Daily Mail reporter.


  • #239
    Tea drinker
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    Yonce wrote: »
    I very much doubt it.
    There's too many unknowns with this virus.
    Do we even know how long the vaccines work for?
    I'd say masks etc will be around for a good while, and packing out places, I could be just negative but I can't see it
    We don't know how long they work for, but the antibodies decline after 6 months.
    What does that mean for protection... might as well ask a taxi driver


  • #240
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Tea drinker wrote: »
    We don't know how long they work for, but the antibodies decline after 6 months.
    What does that mean for protection... might as well ask a taxi driver

    You know the immune system is slightly more complex than antibodies, yes?


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  • #241
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Beasty wrote: »
    Agreed

    :eek:

    I'm in that cohort!


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