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    #5132
    awsah
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭awsah


    Lozg wrote: »
    Mine is the same. Was just wondering what is the norm. Hoping to go to Blackhall in September, it’s very expensive!

    Yes, well I would suggest applying for access program, susi grant or the busary with the law society. I think with the Busary you might have to already be enrolled, I sent an email to Paula Sheedy about it so I will let you know when she gets back to me!


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    #5133
    Lozg
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭Lozg


    awsah wrote: »
    Yes, well I would suggest applying for access program, susi grant or the busary with the law society. I think with the Busary you might have to already be enrolled, I sent an email to Paula Sheedy about it so I will let you know when she gets back to me!

    Would that then cover part of the fees? Thanks for all the info!


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    #5134
    awsah
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭awsah


    Lozg wrote: »
    Would that then cover part of the fees? Thanks for all the info!

    I spoke to someone in the law society once about it and I think they said you can get up to €3000 which you could put towards your fees but you might have to borrow the money and once enrolled apply so there is a risk you won't get it. any information I get I will send on. The SUSI grant I believe covers about 6000 if you are eligible and the access program will pay the rest, if you are eligible.


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    #5135
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Are any of the city colleges etc courses good for constitutional? I struggled to grasp the concept in college and I need to pass in October or I lose my training contract.. does anyone have any positive experiences or are they a waste of money? I know you can just buy the manuals but I would spend the money on the course if the lecturers were known to be helpful...?


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    #5136
    johnnash2020
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭johnnash2020


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are any of the city colleges etc courses good for constitutional? I struggled to grasp the concept in college and I need to pass in October or I lose my training contract.. does anyone have any positive experiences or are they a waste of money? I know you can just buy the manuals but I would spend the money on the course if the lecturers were known to be helpful...?

    Your chances of passing any FE-1 subject (including Constitutional) seriously augment by paying for the courses. One of the reasons smart law grads fail FE-1s so much is they don't bother with the courses because they think having studied the subject in college means they're bulletproof. In actual fact, most law students only study small parts of the FE-1 syllabi in college and their lecturers let them study even less by indicating which questions will come up in exams. The manuals only give you the syllabus. The courses tell you what exact parts of that manual you need to focus on most, they teach you the concepts properly and they give you specific tips and tricks to make sure you score 10+ on every question, rather than failing because you think being a law grad means you're certain to pass. They also keep you working gradually as you attend a lecture a week for months. Well worth it for the 300 euro each one costs.


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    #5137
    Seziertisch
    Registered Users Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Seziertisch


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are any of the city colleges etc courses good for constitutional? I struggled to grasp the concept in college and I need to pass in October or I lose my training contract.. does anyone have any positive experiences or are they a waste of money? I know you can just buy the manuals but I would spend the money on the course if the lecturers were known to be helpful...?

    My experience with the prep courses is that the lectures are basically someone reading from the manual.

    I attended one of the prep schools for three subjects and did another three using introductory books (Blackhall Essential Law Revision Series for one and Roundhall Nutshells for two). I also had access to manuals from a couple of different prep schools for the ones I did on my own, but rarely if ever resorted to them.

    I generally found the manuals to be pretty chaotic, they were obviously written a while ago and have been updated in a piecemeal fashion over the years. The information is in there (for the most part) but if you are struggling to grasp a concept I wouldn’t recommend them. By comparison the introductory books are possibly a bit light on case law in some areas but are actually properly written and edited and provide a clear overview of the topics.

    For the most recent round of exams I started off by making my own notes using the introductory books and then when I started practising exam questions I augmented them with any extra case law and information from the sample answers.

    For my last two subjects (Company and Constitutional) I am going to use the introductory books and sample answers, and potentially reach out to a tutor for Constitutional as it seems to be an ever evolving entity.


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    #5138
    Fe1taker2020
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Fe1taker2020


    From my experience, the manuals are more than enough to pass the FE1 exams. Sure you won’t get 65+ but they’ll definitely be enough to get that magic 50.

    I’m actually one of the more lazy ones and didn’t even watch a single video. Just simply concentrated on the manuals and passed. I’d say deffo worth the money but try and get cheaper manuals from others if you can.


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    #5139
    lawDani
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭lawDani


    Hi All,
    is anybody wanting to part ways with sample answers for Company / Constitutional and or Tort?


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    #5140
    Paraeagle
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Paraeagle


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are any of the city colleges etc courses good for constitutional? I struggled to grasp the concept in college and I need to pass in October or I lose my training contract.. does anyone have any positive experiences or are they a waste of money? I know you can just buy the manuals but I would spend the money on the course if the lecturers were known to be helpful...?

    I watched videos for other subjects (not constitutional) for the last sitting and I honestly found them a waste of time for the most part because the lecturers were basically just reading from the manuals. That being said, I think if someone here can vouch for a particular Constitutional course being excellent, I would definitely consider doing it as there is a lot to grasp and being clued in on recent developments is crucial.


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    #5141
    54321zz
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭54321zz


    Paraeagle wrote: »
    I watched videos for other subjects (not constitutional) for the last sitting and I honestly found them a waste of time for the most part because the lecturers were basically just reading from the manuals. That being said, I think if someone here can vouch for a particular Constitutional course being excellent, I would definitely consider doing it as there is a lot to grasp and being clued in on recent developments is crucial.

    I really found lawschool.ie to be excellent for constitutional. Dr Maura Kelly is the lecturer there and she is great in my opinion. Took me two sittings to pass it but I got 46% the first time around in constitutional so I was pretty close. And I don't come from a law background so was just working off her lectures and the manual


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    #5142
    Hamerzan Sickles
    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are any of the city colleges etc courses good for constitutional? I struggled to grasp the concept in college and I need to pass in October or I lose my training contract.. does anyone have any positive experiences or are they a waste of money? I know you can just buy the manuals but I would spend the money on the course if the lecturers were known to be helpful...?

    We've posted about the FE1s together for about a year now and I want you to do well and not have your contract rescinded so I will tell you now that you should get on the city colleges course for constitutional and not have a second thought. The lecturer is fantastic and presents and explains the course in a way that I thought would be impossible to reach that level of understanding/knowledge without having taken the course. Do not roll the dice on it if your contract is dependent on you passing in October, I guarantee you city colleges is worth it for constitutional.

    People will tell you "oh just use the manual" but tbh I don't think that's good enough for constitutional when you have so much hanging in the balance.


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    #5143
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »
    We've posted about the FE1s together for about a year now and I want you to do well and not have your contract rescinded so I will tell you now that you should get on the city colleges course for constitutional and not have a second thought. The lecturer is fantastic and presents and explains the course in a way that I thought would be impossible to reach that level of understanding/knowledge without having taken the course. Do not roll the dice on it if your contract is dependent on you passing in October, I guarantee you city colleges is worth it for constitutional.

    People will tell you "oh just use the manual" but tbh I don't think that's good enough for constitutional when you have so much hanging in the balance.


    Thank you so much - I’ve used just the manual for a number of subjects but am intimidated by constitutional and have the most to lose now so definitely willing to spend the money, just looking for the best way to do so really.

    I always appreciate the supportiveness of the posters here on boards :)


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    #5144
    Diamond_Hands
    Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Diamond_Hands


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Thank you so much - I’ve used just the manual for a number of subjects but am intimidated by constitutional and have the most to lose now so definitely willing to spend the money, just looking for the best way to do so really.

    I always appreciate the supportiveness of the posters here on boards :)

    You're going to hit it out of the park mate. 60% at least. :)


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    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    Anybody heard back from the LS re results date ???


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    #5146
    nmurphy1441
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    lsheehaneire wrote: »
    Anybody heard back from the LS re results date ???

    I’d say we’d be lucky if we had them for the June bank holiday weekend!


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    #5147
    Lallers96
    Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Lallers96


    nmurphy1441 wrote: »
    I’d say we’d be lucky if we had them for the June bank holiday weekend!

    Ah now, no reason why they can't have them to us by mid-May (6 weeks, the usual time pre covid) or at the worst by the end of May. It took 10 weeks for the last sitting but offices had 2 weeks minimum off for Christmas


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    #5148
    Fe1ak
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Fe1ak


    Hi guys, could anyone recommend where is best to go to do a prep course for EU Law, its been so long since I studied it in college and all I remember is that I hated it lol


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    #5149
    Fe1taker2020
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Fe1taker2020


    Fe1ak wrote: »
    Hi guys, could anyone recommend where is best to go to do a prep course for EU Law, its been so long since I studied it in college and all I remember is that I hated it lol

    Best I’d say would be to get a prep course from Citycolleges. Personally, I learned from the presentation slides rather than the manual. Did the exam and was pretty confident with my answers. Don’t think you need an extra material for EU, just study the presentation slides and you should be fine!

    If you do the following chapters, you should have more than enough to answer 5 questions on the exam.

    Judicial review
    Free movement of goods
    Free movement of workers
    Institutions
    General principles of EU law
    Direct effect / Member State Liability
    Any other EU topic


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    #5150
    keelfe1s
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭keelfe1s


    Hi Guys.....
    Can somebody recommend a prep course for contract and equity please


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    #5151
    RaffRiff01
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭RaffRiff01


    lawDani wrote: »
    Hi All,
    is anybody wanting to part ways with sample answers for Company / Constitutional and or Tort?



    PM me!


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    #5152
    LawBoy2018
    Registered Users Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    keelfe1s wrote: »
    Hi Guys.....
    Can somebody recommend a prep course for contract and equity please

    The lawschool.ie and city colleges equity courses are both quite poor imo.

    The city colleges manual hasn't been updated since like 2016/2017. The lawschool.ie manual is much better, but the lecturer is terrible.


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    #5153
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    To anyone who is looking for a refund for exams not sat:

    I emailed the Law Society and they sent me a link. You use your login details and it opens a form for you to fill out. All you need to give are your personal details and the exams you want a refund for. It is only for exams that you did not log in for. No need for a doctor's note or anything.

    Closing date for refunds is the 30th April.


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    #5154
    Diamond_Hands
    Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Diamond_Hands


    able1 wrote: »
    To anyone who is looking for a refund for exams not sat:

    I emailed the Law Society and they sent me a link. You use your login details and it opens a form for you to fill out. All you need to give are your personal details and the exams you want a refund for. It is only for exams that you did not log in for. No need for a doctor's note or anything.

    Closing date for refunds is the 30th April.

    Can you post the link here?


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    #5155
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Diamond_Hands wrote: »
    Can you post the link here?


    Good idea!!


    https://www.lawsociety.ie/Public/Become-a-Solicitor/FE-1-Exam/fe-1-refund-application/


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    #5156
    Lawkp
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Lawkp


    Did anyone get their refund yet for the rechecks ??


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    #5157
    lawDani
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭lawDani


    Lawkp wrote: »
    Did anyone get their refund yet for the rechecks ??

    ....nope...


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    #5158
    ctc865
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭ctc865


    So I am an idiot and didn't read the no pen or paper rule. At the beginning of my 2 exams I wrote out the question topics over about 15 mins on a blank piece of paper, announced that I was doing so and showed it to the camera. Am I screwed here? Should I email them or just hope the computer doesn't pick up on suspicious activity?


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    #5159
    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    Oh no! When did you discover the no pen no paper rule ?


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    #5160
    ctc865
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭ctc865


    lsheehaneire wrote: »
    Oh no! When did you discover the no pen no paper rule ?

    Literally just today chatting to someone at work. Mentioned holding up my piece of paper with the writing I did on it and they told me.


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    #5161
    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    I am sure you are not the only person to it so try not to worry. Maybe you should mention it t the LS better to be upfront about it rather then hoping they don't notice !


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