COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

1huge1 · 11-04-2021 08:11PM

marno21 wrote: »

At 4.6m per day, that's only 55 or so days away. Israel ran into demand shortages when 55% or so were vaccinated, and the US are a manufacturer of vaccines with an export ban, and production is increasing.

In 5-6 weeks time the vaccine landscape will be very different, to our considerable benefit.

I think another reason that Israel seems to have plateaued around 55% is because Pfizer have stopped delivered them vaccines due to Israel not paying for their most recent batch.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-said-to-warn-israel-pay-up-or-go-to-back-of-vaccine-line/

Although. this does seem strange to me, I can't imagine Israel having any issues paying for these.

charlie14 · 11-04-2021 08:11PM

marno21 wrote: »

4.6m doses given in the US yesterday.

At that rate, they are going to run into demand shortages in the next few weeks. Once they lift that export ban it’ll be good news for supply in Europe. All upwards from here.

Hopefully the Pfizer/Biontech report on 12-15 year olds do not impact that if the US decides to go ahead with vaccinating that cohort.
Not only are Pfizer/Biontech looking as the gold standard, on reliabilty of delivery they look to be our most reliable and fastest way out of this.

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 11-04-2021 08:43PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Sanofi, a French company, producing it is the most likely explanation.

Spain getting it Tuesday

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/news/international/2021/04/10/82293/first-johnson-johnson-vaccines-arrive-spain-tuesday.html

Corholio · 11-04-2021 08:51PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

There was a body set up to evaluate various rapid methods which are currently being used in appropriate settings by trained personnel.
It is not being used for mass testing.

I wasn't necessary meaning just in Ireland, the UK have been mentioning them a lot.

Bridge93 · 11-04-2021 09:01PM

What’s the likelihood we get a weekend of proper vaccination numbers or will the trend continue with a significant drop off? If we’re to ever hit the targets set surely there has to be a substantial weekend ramp up?

Micky 32 · 11-04-2021 09:08PM

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327343994642433?s=21

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327347757031425?s=21

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2021 09:13PM

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

ACitizenErased · 11-04-2021 09:16PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

It's been well documented that vaccines are the way out of this.

Stark · 11-04-2021 09:19PM

Don't need them to work perfectly. Just need to reduce transmission enough that we can maintain an R rate of <1 with fully open society/economy.

Also haven't watched the video but does it specify how long after vaccination she contracted covid? Both doses received?

Dressoutlet · 11-04-2021 09:19PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

The vaccines do work. Did the Dr die? End up in ICU? No. This means the vaccine worked. The vaccines are to stop you getting seriously sick or dying. A side benefit is that in most cases it is not transmitted, however there will ALWAYS be cases where vaccines didn't work/ didn't stop spread.

Mmr didn't work on me, and none of the boosters did either. I still have no rubella immunity. Even natural infection of Rubella gave me no immunity to it. And I know of 3 other people who gained no rubella immunity from the MMR. So does this mean MMR vaccine dosnt work. Of course not. Herd immunity protects me and others like me. When herd immunity is reached then people like this Dr will be protected by Herd Immunity.

hmmm · 11-04-2021 09:22PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21

Really useful set of tweets.

Will "breakthrough infections" be the new "variants" in the media?

This is the key tweet to me. Even if someone gets infected, if the illness is mild should we really care?

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1381327343994642433

VonLuck · 11-04-2021 09:34PM

Can anyone post the population numbers in each age group? It was posted a few days ago but can't seem to find it. Would be good to extrapolate the daily vaccination numbers to know approximately when certain ages will start vaccinations.

Deeper Blue · 11-04-2021 09:43PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

So one doctor in New York getting it means the vaccines don't work and won't get us out of this?

FFS get up the yard

lbj666 · 11-04-2021 09:57PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327343994642433?s=21

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327347757031425?s=21

It's depressing to think this isn't somewhat obvious to everyone. But seen already from a recent post its not.

humberklog · 11-04-2021 09:58PM

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

11-04-2021 10:08PM

lbj666 wrote: »

It's depressing to think this isn't somewhat obvious to everyone. But seen already from a recent post its not.

It is. I often read Dr Monica Gandhi on Twitter. She says variants are nothing to worry about: https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

She is always extremely positive and doesn't create panic.

The problem is the media. Bad news sells.

irishgeo · 11-04-2021 10:12PM

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

I doubt it.

11-04-2021 10:13PM

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

No

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2021 10:15PM

Deeper Blue wrote: »

So one doctor in New York getting it means the vaccines don't work and won't get us out of this?

FFS get up the yard

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

ACitizenErased · 11-04-2021 10:16PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

Vaccine isn't a preventative, it's to stop you getting sick.

Strazdas · 11-04-2021 10:26PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

I've heard though that a lot of these only had very mild symptoms or were asymptomatic.

Deeper Blue · 11-04-2021 10:28PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

I'm not the one that needs to educate myself here.

Ha Long Bay · 11-04-2021 10:28PM

humberklog wrote: »

That's a factory...or my eyes are worse than I think.

It's my eyes not yours. I'm completely wrong here its not water.

stephenjmcd · 11-04-2021 10:36PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

For the love of god is this still a talking point ? Some common sense here.

1. Person can be infected before vaccine was given and be asymptomatic, vaccine won't do anything. But sure oh I had the vaccine and still got covid.

2. Person picks it up in the days after vaccination. Repeat of the above, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid". Vaccine hasn't had enough time to do anything.

3. Person gets covid after 2nd dose, gets a mild dose, the same as a head cold, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid" . Well in this case the vaccine has done its job.

None of this is new

Beasty · 11-04-2021 11:01PM

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

It's my eyes not yours. I'm completely wrong here its not water.

And with that a load of confusing posts deleted

SJFly · 11-04-2021 11:14PM

I don't understand the obsession with weekend vaccination numbers. If we had a bottleneck caused by vaccine centres/cubicles you would expect them all to be staffed at capacity 7 days a week. We don't - we are still limited by supply. All we need right now is enough vaccinators working to administer the supplies we receive each week, without stock building up.
Perhaps when supplies pick up we will need all centres to be operating at full capacity, and I would expect a more even distribution throughout the week. Until then, dips at the weekend are expected and not particularly problematic.

deisedevil · 11-04-2021 11:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No

The videos is fake then is it?

rameire · 11-04-2021 11:20PM

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

There is a video in the last few hours of about 20 vans pulling caravans pulling up onto empty space.
Its claiming its Grange Castle.

https://twitter.com/BluntMan____/status/1381341531366424581?s=19

humberklog · 11-04-2021 11:31PM

Yeah I saw the vid rameire so asked in here if it was Pfiser as I don't know the area and whether it was recent.

nocoverart · 11-04-2021 11:53PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

For the love of god is this still a talking point ? Some common sense here.

1. Person can be infected before vaccine was given and be asymptomatic, vaccine won't do anything. But sure oh I had the vaccine and still got covid.

2. Person picks it up in the days after vaccination. Repeat of the above, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid". Vaccine hasn't had enough time to do anything.

3. Person gets covid after 2nd dose, gets a mild dose, the same as a head cold, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid" . Well in this case the vaccine has done its job.

None of this is new

I wouldn't waste my time explaining, and I definitely wouldn't waste my time with that certain type of poster. Fair play to you!

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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