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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • #9242
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Interesting talking to US residents over the past two weeks, a huge amount of adults are now vaccinated. All states are now pushing on with reopening with differences in criteria and measures that will remain.
    There also seems to be a class element to which vaccine you receive, with Pfizer and Moderna as the perceived gold standard and Johnson & Johnson as the work horse.

    Meanwhile in Ireland, we’re quarantining fully vaccinated with Pfizer Israeli’s, and expanding our quarantine list... while stating we’ll enjoy an outdoor summer in a wet and cool climate...

    Username checks out. A cruel Summer here Indeed :(


  • #9243
    SSeanSS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭SSeanSS


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Username checks out. A cruel Summer here Indeed :(

    I read that earlier that we are quarantining arrivals from Israel. Was there any reason for this? Looks like case numbers are massively down there and they have a great vaccination rate. Maybe their cases have a high rate of a variant? :confused:


  • #9244
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Incidence of CVST is very low normally .

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/cerebral-venous-sinus-thrombosis


  • #9245
    IRISHSPORTSGUY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    What's the vaccination schedule for next week?


  • #9246
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Most likely I'll be offered Pfizer, only about a 20% chance I'll be offered AZ at the end of this month. I'm sure I'll find a way not to get AZ without having to go to the back of the queue.

    Curious about this. I'm expecting to get my first jab end of this ,onth or early next, but I was thinking I womost likely be offered AstraZeneca....there seems to be plenty it around.


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  • #9247
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Incidence of CVST is very low normally .

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/cerebral-venous-sinus-thrombosis

    So the eu and uk has had 169 occurrences from 34 million doses. Not any higher than baseline risk then


  • #9248
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    I agree though in principle, even if 56% turns out to be the magic number for Israel, we cannot assume the same will hold true for us. We need to keep our foot to the floor until everyone has been offered the vaccine.

    Why? And in what sense?
    Firstly why wouldn't we expect to follow the Israelis? Apart from anything else they're even more densely populated so a lower threshold would make sense for us if anything.
    And what's this "foot to the floor" mean? Make every keep their lives on hold for even longer?


  • #9249
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why? And in what sense?
    Firstly why wouldn't we expect to follow the Israelis? Apart from anything else they're even more densely populated so a lower threshold would make sense for us if anything.
    And what's this "foot to the floor" mean? Make every keep their lives on hold for even longer?
    Israel thought they had 15-20% of their population previously infected with Covid. I haven't seen a recent estimate for us but I imagine it's lower? Israel had a large section of their religious population ignore social distancing.

    That would suggest they started to reopen at about 70% coverage.


  • #9250
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Woody79 wrote:
    Great civic attitude.
    I've probably done a lot more to help my community that you have or will ever do. I could be wrong about that but we'll never know and it's not important.
    Thing is you need to be in a good place both from a health and family perspective to give your best efforts outside the home.
    So yes I'll certainly put myself and my family first but you are very mistaken to conclude that means I don't help others quite a lot.


  • #9251
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    Israel thought they had 15-20% of their population previously infected with Covid. I haven't seen a recent estimate for us but I imagine it's lower? Israel had a large section of their religious population ignore social distancing.

    That would suggest they started to reopen at about 70% coverage.

    About 5% confirmed. General estimates have generally been 2-3x confirmed cases.
    So you can say we're a bit lower there, we're a bit better by not being so densely populated so it pretty much balances out.


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  • #9252
    snowcat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So the eu and uk has had 169 occurrences from 34 million doses. Not any higher than baseline risk then

    We are 3 months in from giving vaccines. What is going to pop up 6 9 months down the line. Anyway good to see the large scale human trial has found the early blood clot issues.


  • #9253
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    vienne86 wrote:
    Curious about this. I'm expecting to get my first jab end of this ,onth or early next, but I was thinking I womost likely be offered AstraZeneca....there seems to be plenty it around.

    April 21st we get 546k pfizer, we get 224k AZ, 128k Moderna and 41k Janssen.
    https://www.thejournal.ie/heres-how-many-vaccines-ireland-expects-to-be-delivered-in-april-may-and-june-5402721-Apr2021/


  • #9254
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1380600725886091267?s=21


  • #9255
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,793 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Interesting talking to US residents over the past two weeks, a huge amount of adults are now vaccinated. All states are now pushing on with reopening with differences in criteria and measures that will remain.
    There also seems to be a class element to which vaccine you receive, with Pfizer and Moderna as the perceived gold standard and Johnson & Johnson as the work horse.

    Meanwhile in Ireland, we’re quarantining fully vaccinated with Pfizer Israeli’s, and expanding our quarantine list... while stating we’ll enjoy an outdoor summer in a wet and cool climate...

    Are they actively discriminating with choice of vaccines based on people's incomes and health insurance etc? Nothing would surprise me.


  • #9256
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    First they said the vaccine wouldn't be mandatory and it would be completely up to you if you wished to take it or not and you could do whatever you liked whether you took it or not then that became no vaccine no foreign travel then that became no vaccine no hospitality now no vaccine no haircut or no going to non essiential shops. What's next vaccines will be required to travel on the bus or go to a supermarket or even vaccine will be required just to leave your gaff. This is insanity.

    I'm guessing the reason why they're trying to coercise people into taking the shot is because a sizeable amount of people like myself don't want to take it so they need to try and force people to take it by only allowing the vaccinated partake in most everyday activities. In my opinion any business that enforces masks or vaccines should be boycotted. Regardless if you agree with vaccines or not.


  • #9257
    s_carnage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭s_carnage


    GT89 wrote: »
    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    First they said the vaccine wouldn't be mandatory and it would be completely up to you if you wished to take it or not and you could do whatever you liked whether you took it or not then that became no vaccine no foreign travel then that became no vaccine no hospitality now no vaccine no haircut or no going to non essiential shops. What's next vaccines will be required to travel on the bus or go to a supermarket or even vaccine will be required just to leave your gaff. This is insanity.

    I'm guessing the reason why they're trying to coercise people into taking the shot is because a sizeable amount of people like myself don't want to take it so they need to try and force people to take it by only allowing the vaccinated partake in most everyday activities. In my opinion any business that enforces masks or vaccines should be boycotted. Regardless if you agree with vaccines or not.

    I know, great news!!


  • #9258
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    GT89 wrote: »
    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    First they said the vaccine wouldn't be mandatory and it would be completely up to you if you wished to take it or not and you could do whatever you liked whether you took it or not then that became no vaccine no foreign travel then that became no vaccine no hospitality now no vaccine no haircut or no going to non essiential shops. What's next vaccines will be required to travel on the bus or go to a supermarket or even vaccine will be required just to leave your gaff. This is insanity.

    I'm guessing the reason why they're trying to coercise people into taking the shot is because a sizeable amount of people like myself don't want to take it so they need to try and force people to take it by only allowing the vaccinated partake in most everyday activities. In my opinion any business that enforces masks or vaccines should be boycotted. Regardless if you agree with vaccines or not.

    Nah. Take the vaccine or have a sh1t life. Them's the rules.


  • #9259
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,502 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    GT89 wrote: »
    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    This is the thread for you to spread your theories:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058164666
    Vaccine Passports - threadbans in OP

    Short answer is that we need a sizable amount of people to get vaccinated to achieve herd immunity and exit lockdowns, discussion can be continued on the correct thread.


  • #9260
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    GT89 wrote: »
    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    First they said the vaccine wouldn't be mandatory and it would be completely up to you if you wished to take it or not and you could do whatever you liked whether you took it or not then that became no vaccine no foreign travel then that became no vaccine no hospitality now no vaccine no haircut or no going to non essiential shops. What's next vaccines will be required to travel on the bus or go to a supermarket or even vaccine will be required just to leave your gaff. This is insanity.

    I'm guessing the reason why they're trying to coercise people into taking the shot is because a sizeable amount of people like myself don't want to take it so they need to try and force people to take it by only allowing the vaccinated partake in most everyday activities. In my opinion any business that enforces masks or vaccines should be boycotted. Regardless if you agree with vaccines or not.

    I think it’s great to see this happen. On my travels I’m meeting too many smart arse antivaxxers for my liking. It’s because of those people that normality could be jeopardised. Stadiums etc are all being discussed too, great to see. Expect to see more of this happening.


  • #9261
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    GT89 wrote: »
    Wtf they're talking now about letting "non-essiential" shops and hairdressers open next month but only for those who've gotten the shot. This is coercion to get people to take the vaccine I warned about this months and people didn't believe me.

    First they said the vaccine wouldn't be mandatory and it would be completely up to you if you wished to take it or not and you could do whatever you liked whether you took it or not then that became no vaccine no foreign travel then that became no vaccine no hospitality now no vaccine no haircut or no going to non essiential shops. What's next vaccines will be required to travel on the bus or go to a supermarket or even vaccine will be required just to leave your gaff. This is insanity.

    I'm guessing the reason why they're trying to coercise people into taking the shot is because a sizeable amount of people like myself don't want to take it so they need to try and force people to take it by only allowing the vaccinated partake in most everyday activities. In my opinion any business that enforces masks or vaccines should be boycotted. Regardless if you agree with vaccines or not.

    I think it's great, it means decent people won't have to interact with anti-vaxxers like yourself


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  • #9262
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Are they giving over 70's the Astra zennica vaccine, my mother is a worried as family history of strokes? Sorry if wrong thread to ask


  • #9263
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,502 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Are they giving over 70's the Astra zennica vaccine, my mother is a worried as family history of strokes? Sorry if wrong thread to ask

    I think the answer is generally not, but sometimes yes. There doesn't seem to have been any issues with over 70's and AZ, I would tell your mother not to worry in the slightest.


  • #9264
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    I think it's great, it means decent people won't have to interact with anti-vaxxers like yourself

    I'm not an anti vaxxer I am a person who's not interested in taking the covid vaccine simple. I'm entitled to my view vaccines were never mandatory in Ireland for anything so why now?


  • #9265
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I think it’s great to see this happen. On my travels I’m meeting too many smart arse antivaxxers for my liking. It’s because of those people that normality could be jeopardised. Stadiums etc are all being discussed too, great to see. Expect to see more of this happening.

    Normality has already returned in Florida and Texas without any vaccine passports


  • #9266
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    GT89 wrote: »
    I'm not an anti vaxxer I am a person who's not interested in taking the covid vaccine simple. I'm entitled to my view vaccines were never mandatory in Ireland for anything so why now?

    They are mandatory? When was this law passed?


  • #9267
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    They are mandatory? When was this law passed?

    There's talk of it


  • #9268
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    GT89 wrote: »
    Normality has already returned in Florida and Texas without any vaccine passports

    Did you not see what happened here last Xmas? We are at risk of it happening again if we don’t get vaccinated.


  • #9269
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    GT89 wrote: »
    There's talk of it

    Have you a link where mandatory vaccination is being talked about in Ireland?


  • #9270
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Have you a link where mandatory vaccination is being talked about in Ireland?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40260956.html


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  • #9271
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Did you not see what happened here last Xmas? We are at risk of it happening again if we don’t get vaccinated.

    Nothing happened last Xmas. Are you thinking of January where we bombarded with fearmongering propaganda from the msm. Again vaccines are not mandatory in fully open Texas and Florida and those places are doing just fine how is Ireland any different?


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