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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #8402
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,940 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Obviously very good reasons Golden Wrists only has 16 caps, bit of a shame

    Oh yeah absolutely. It says a lot that multiple England head coaches didn't want him in their team despite his talent.


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    #8403
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    hahashake wrote: »
    I assumed he would be in Japan, his profile is big enough to command a decent wedge and it's much less attritional than the prem.

    There was reports of him going since he left Gloucester but he turned it down apparently.

    I think Cips will always be England's big what-if. If he hadn't squabbled a lot of his younger years with his off-field actions and stayed focused he could've been a superstar on the pitch rather than off it.


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    #8404
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    There was reports of him going since he left Gloucester but he turned it down apparently.

    I think Cips will always be England's big what-if. If he hadn't squabbled a lot of his younger years with his off-field actions and stayed focused he could've been a superstar on the pitch rather than off it.

    Gavin Henson is another. Both had so much potential but never lived up to it. Cipriani more so.


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    #8405
    Sangre
    Registered Users Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Cips is definitely a case of "what if" but in fairness to him Owen "1000 points" Farrell has probably swallowed up a lot of those potential caps.


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    #8406
    ScissorPaperRock
    Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/56494264

    This is pretty interesting from a concussion assessment perspective. A study of 156 Premiership and Championship players has shown that saliva can predict HIA results with 94% accuracy.

    Could pave the way for pitch-side saliva tests in future.


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    #8407
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    ScissorPaperRock wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/56494264

    This is pretty interesting from a concussion assessment perspective. A study of 156 Premiership and Championship players has shown that saliva can predict HIA results with 94% accuracy.

    Could pave the way for pitch-side saliva tests in future.

    It still takes 24/48 hrs to get results..

    Won't make any change to the in game HIA process , but it should make for much more effective "Return to play" protocols.

    Bottom line though , anything that improves the ability to accurately detect Concussion is a very good thing


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    #8408
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Instant pitch-side HIA results in a couple of years? That might be lead to fairly chilling results...


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    #8409
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Sangre wrote: »
    Cips is definitely a case of "what if" but in fairness to him Owen "1000 points" Farrell has probably swallowed up a lot of those potential caps.

    Cipriani is about 4 years older and was on the scene very young (made his England debut in 2008!!) so he would have had a good bit of time to establish himself before Farrell, he just didn't do it for various reasons.


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    #8410
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Who was the last Frenchman to play for one of the provinces (if there has been any)?


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    #8411
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Who was the last Frenchman to play for one of the provinces (if there has been any)?

    Julien Brugnaut?


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    #8412
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Who was the last Frenchman to play for one of the provinces (if there has been any)?

    Julian Brugnaut one of the only ones i can think of


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    #8413
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,280 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Who was the last Frenchman to play for one of the provinces (if there has been any)?

    Simon Zebo

    ;)


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    #8414
    hahashake
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭hahashake


    hahashake wrote: »
    Genuinely think there is perhaps the most parity in world rugby for a long time. No team stands out right now, SA might be number one and world champs but they lost a pool game and were ran close by the Welsh in the semi, then haven't played since. NZ are not in a purple patch, France and England overrated, Wales and Ireland hard to gauge (Wales lucky and Ireland a mixed bag). Scotland and Argentina better than they have been in the past.

    Reiterating this.;)


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    #8415
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    hahashake wrote: »
    Reiterating this.;)

    Good points, will be interesting to see how things go if there are summer tours


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    #8416
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Instant pitch-side HIA results in a couple of years? That might be lead to fairly chilling results...

    Harlequins currently looking into creating “saliva capsules”.


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    #8417
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Harlequins currently looking into creating “saliva capsules”.

    Nice!


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    #8418
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Harlequins currently looking into creating “saliva capsules”.

    giphy.gif


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    #8419
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,050 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm early 30s but Jesus I remember a time when getting Magners League tickets for a Munster game were hard to get esp the inter pros. Heineken Cup games were like gold dust esp for Munster games

    Nowadays (pre covid) it's easy enough to pick up tickets for almost any club game

    Irish internationals tbf remain stubbornly high to get tickets if don't knw the right channels


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    #8420
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I'm early 30s but Jesus I remember a time when getting Magners League tickets for a Munster game were hard to get esp the inter pros. Heineken Cup games were like gold dust esp for Munster games

    Nowadays (pre covid) it's easy enough to pick up tickets for almost any club game

    Irish internationals tbf remain stubbornly high to get tickets if don't knw the right channels

    I agree we should rip out the seat's of the Aviva on the bottom tiers and bring back the terrace!!


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    #8421
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,280 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/new-faces-aplenty-as-rennie-reveals-first-wallabies-squad-of-the-year-20210328-p57eqd.html

    Dave rennie names 40 man wallaby squad.

    Wallabies squad for April camp
    Allan Alaalatoa (27, Brumbies, 43 Tests)
    Tim Anstee (23, Western Force, uncapped)
    Tom Banks (26, Brumbies, 11 Tests)
    Angus Bell (20, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
    Filipo Daugunu (26, Queensland Reds, 5 Tests)
    Pone Fa’amausili (24, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Jake Gordon (27, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
    Reece Hodge (26, Melbourne Rebels, 45 Tests)
    Trevor Hosea (21, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Len Ikitau (22, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Feleti Kaitu’u (26, Western Force, uncapped)
    Josh Kemeny (22, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Marika Koroibete (28, Melbourne Rebels, 34 Tests)
    Noah Lolesio (21, Brumbies, 2 Tests)
    Lachlan Lonergan (21, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Alex Mafi (24, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Tate McDermott (22, Queensland Reds, 2 Tests)
    Fraser McReight (22, Queensland Reds, 1 Test)
    Andy Muirhead (27, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Isi Naisarani (26, Melbourne Rebels, 8 Tests)
    Cadeyrn Neville (32, Brumbies, uncapped)
    James O’Connor (30, Queensland Reds, 55 Tests)
    Hunter Paisami (22, Queensland Reds, 6 Tests)
    Jordan Petaia (21, Queensland Reds, 8 Tests)
    David Porecki (28, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
    Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (24, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
    Pete Samu (29, Brumbies, 10 Tests)
    Irae Simone (25, Brumbies, 2 Tests)
    James Slipper (31, Brumbies, 100 Tests)
    Darcy Swain (23, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Lachlan Swinton (24, NSW Waratahs, 1 Test)
    Sitaleki Timani (34, Western Force, 18 Tests)
    Matt To’omua (31, Melbourne Rebels, 54 Tests)
    Taniela Tupou (24, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
    Seru Uru (24, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Rob Valetini (22, Brumbies, 4 Tests)
    Suliasi Vunivalu (25, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Nic White (30, Brumbies, 37 Tests)
    Harry Wilson (24, Queensland Reds, 6 Tests)
    Tom Wright (23, Brumbies, 3 Tests).



    Interesting to see who will get the 10 shirt between the veterans o Connor and toomua, and the up and coming Lolesio...

    Great to see so many reds players rewarded for some excellent performances since restart


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    #8422
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,771 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/new-faces-aplenty-as-rennie-reveals-first-wallabies-squad-of-the-year-20210328-p57eqd.html

    Dave rennie names 40 man wallaby squad.

    Wallabies squad for April camp
    Allan Alaalatoa (27, Brumbies, 43 Tests)
    Tim Anstee (23, Western Force, uncapped)
    Tom Banks (26, Brumbies, 11 Tests)
    Angus Bell (20, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
    Filipo Daugunu (26, Queensland Reds, 5 Tests)
    Pone Fa’amausili (24, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Jake Gordon (27, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
    Reece Hodge (26, Melbourne Rebels, 45 Tests)
    Trevor Hosea (21, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Len Ikitau (22, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Feleti Kaitu’u (26, Western Force, uncapped)
    Josh Kemeny (22, Melbourne Rebels, uncapped)
    Marika Koroibete (28, Melbourne Rebels, 34 Tests)
    Noah Lolesio (21, Brumbies, 2 Tests)
    Lachlan Lonergan (21, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Alex Mafi (24, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Tate McDermott (22, Queensland Reds, 2 Tests)
    Fraser McReight (22, Queensland Reds, 1 Test)
    Andy Muirhead (27, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Isi Naisarani (26, Melbourne Rebels, 8 Tests)
    Cadeyrn Neville (32, Brumbies, uncapped)
    James O’Connor (30, Queensland Reds, 55 Tests)
    Hunter Paisami (22, Queensland Reds, 6 Tests)
    Jordan Petaia (21, Queensland Reds, 8 Tests)
    David Porecki (28, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
    Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (24, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
    Pete Samu (29, Brumbies, 10 Tests)
    Irae Simone (25, Brumbies, 2 Tests)
    James Slipper (31, Brumbies, 100 Tests)
    Darcy Swain (23, Brumbies, uncapped)
    Lachlan Swinton (24, NSW Waratahs, 1 Test)
    Sitaleki Timani (34, Western Force, 18 Tests)
    Matt To’omua (31, Melbourne Rebels, 54 Tests)
    Taniela Tupou (24, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
    Seru Uru (24, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Rob Valetini (22, Brumbies, 4 Tests)
    Suliasi Vunivalu (25, Queensland Reds, uncapped)
    Nic White (30, Brumbies, 37 Tests)
    Harry Wilson (24, Queensland Reds, 6 Tests)
    Tom Wright (23, Brumbies, 3 Tests).



    Interesting to see who will get the 10 shirt between the veterans o Connor and toomua, and the up and coming Lolesio...

    Great to see so many reds players rewarded for some excellent performances since restart

    28 players with 10 or fewer caps...wow


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    #8423
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    https://twitter.com/PlanetRugby/status/1376175143966420992?s=19


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    #8424
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Just tuned in to watch Welsh leaving the field injured. What an anti-climax


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    #8425
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/all-blacks-players-new-zealand-rugby-silver-lake-investment-private-equity

    NZRPA moving to block the SilverLake deal


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    #8426
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Some end to the London Irish Cardiff Blues game!


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    #8427
    A-Train
    Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭A-Train


    clsmooth wrote: »
    Some end to the London Irish Cardiff Blues game!

    Unreal last 5 mins


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    #8428
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Great finish to it. Shocking defence from Cardiff though


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    #8429
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    There’s a touch of the monk about Deccie with the hair and baseball cap


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    #8430
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Cardiff are a terrible team. London Irish aren't much better. Jackson had a fairly terrible second half. When his team were down to 13, he missed touch twice from penalties. They desperately needed to kill the clock during that period. He missed touch from a penalty taken well inside his own 22. Horrendous. Also turned over twice on the deck fairly weakly.

    Still has the soft hands and quick feet but he definitely appears to have lost some of the focus he had 3 years ago.


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    #8431
    RugbyLover123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Not a great look for the Challenge Cup when one of Harlequins’ main players is a pundit on the game instead of playing despite not being injured..


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