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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #3302
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,831 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    But excel skills is all you need in order to become a Covexpert.
    Or a boards account! :eek:


  • #3303
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Always_Running wrote: »
    This week compared to last.

    319 fewer positive swabs and 372 fewer cases from 3821 more tests carried out. A happy Easter to all

    Looking like good numbers across the board, cases, hospitalisations and vaccinations all going the right way. I've said for a while now, the daily numbers fluctuate too much. Its averages, hospital numbers and comparisons with the previous week where you get a better idea of where we are and what direction things are taking.

    Cases may be stubbornly around the 500 mark but there doesnt seem to be any major bounce from Mothers day or St. Patrick's day, hopefully Easter will have the same results.


  • #3304
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Just read this on RTE app:

    “Speaking on RTÉ's Saturday with Katie Hannon, Dr Gerald Barry said that at present 32 cases of the variant first identified in South Africa have been confirmed in Ireland, while 12 cases of P1 and 14 cases of P2 – both of which were first identified in Brazil – have also been confirmed.  

    Dr Barry said that while "some" of these cases are as a result of travel, others were as a result of community transmission. 

    "It is concerning that these are now beginning to spread, and we can’t really, or don’t seem to be able to, track where they’re coming from," he said. 

    Dr Barry said the worry with the variants was twofold, in that the efficacy of current vaccines in use "might not be as good" with other variants. He said the variants in future "could pose a challenge". 

    He said data coming from Brazil showed the P1 variant spreads faster than the B117 variant, first identified in the UK, and showed that the P1 was three-times more virulent.”

    WHY do I do this to myself?!


  • #3305
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    Twitter's resident Covexpert David Higgins has a Bachelor's in Management Science and a Master's in Central Banking. But excel skills is all you need in order to become a Covexpert.

    I'm sorry but I've never heard of him.


  • #3306
    FFVII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Is this how poor the glibness has become?
    Cop on!

    Im serious. Were they RTAs that test positive at the hospital and then die from there injuries?

    Is this still the way?

    I don't follow it anymore.


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  • #3307
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    FFVII wrote: »
    Im serious. Were they RTAs that test positive at the hospital and then die from there injuries?

    Is this still the way?

    I don't follow it anymore.

    'it' being common sense I presume?


  • #3308
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,567 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    FFVII wrote: »
    Im serious. Were they RTAs that test positive at the hospital and then die from there injuries?

    Is this still the way?

    I don't follow it anymore.

    It was never that way in Ireland.
    Jesus over a year into the pandemic and people still think this ****?


  • #3309
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Corholio wrote: »
    'it' being common sense I presume?

    You've implicitly assumed that he followed 'it' in the past, in order to stop. Here in lies the error in your assumption, I suspect.:D


  • #3310
    FFVII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    It was never that way in Ireland.
    Jesus over a year into the pandemic and people still think this ****?

    Was it not?

    I lost interest around the time it was ok for texas folk to fly here with they were the hot spot of the world. I see the US should be on quarantine list this week but still no.

    Nothing changed a year later.


  • #3311
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TanookiMario wrote: »

    Gotta finish up on a Friday after yet another demoralising week and then navigate the busy streets of Dublin seeing people who just aren't affected by all this is seems. Mobs of kids. People on the LUAS with no masks. People in the shop with no masks. Seems at time like they only person having restrictions enforced on them is me.

    I don't know if I live in a parallel universe but the last time I saw someone in a shop without a face covering was last summer.


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  • #3312
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I don't know if I live in a parallel universe but the last time I saw someone in a shop without a face covering was last summer.

    Depends on where you go to be fair.


  • #3313
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I don't know if I live in a parallel universe but the last time I saw someone in a shop without a face covering was last summer.

    I live in your universe , here in south Dublin and I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone without a mask in shops


  • #3314
    shtpEdthePlum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Micheál breaks the rules and it's 'overblown'.

    People meet up outside or break the 5km and they're scum of the earth causing our restrictions to be extended.

    To be honest I don't think what Martin did is a big deal at all, but the difference in the reaction to it compared to anyone else breaking the rules is interesting.
    My best friend couldn't go to their granny's funeral at the time because of restrictions and he was up there joking about masks and optics.


  • #3315
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,567 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    FFVII wrote: »
    Was it not?

    I lost interest around the time it was ok for texas folk to fly here with they were the hot spot of the world. I see the US should be on quarantine list this week but still no.

    Nothing changed a year later.

    All that you have posted have absolutely nothing to do with with how deaths by notified diseases are recorded.


  • #3316
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I live in your universe , here in south Dublin and I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone without a mask in shops

    I work in a retail environment in North Dublin and about 15% of our customers refuse to wear masks on any given day. We're "not allowed" request them to wear one, so they won't.


  • #3317
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I work in a retail environment in North Dublin and about 15% of our customers refuse to wear masks on any given day. We're "not allowed" request them to wear one, so they won't.

    Eejits . I guess even a pandemic wont make them any less of an eejit


  • #3318
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I work in a retail environment in North Dublin and about 15% of our customers refuse to wear masks on any given day. We're "not allowed" request them to wear one, so they won't.

    I'm in North Dublin and rarely see anyone in a shop without a mask

    That said, I'm rarely in the shop, maybe once a week


  • #3319
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    FFVII wrote: »
    Im serious. Were they RTAs that test positive at the hospital and then die from there injuries?

    Is this still the way?

    I don't follow it anymore.

    No, you're not serious.
    Died of what?
    Less waste of plastic for nothing?

    There's more; need I go on?

    You know rightly what you're doing,


  • #3320
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I don't know if I live in a parallel universe but the last time I saw someone in a shop without a face covering was last summer.

    Hahaha. Good one.


  • #3321
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I work in a retail environment in North Dublin and about 15% of our customers refuse to wear masks on any given day. We're "not allowed" request them to wear one, so they won't.

    Its kind of baffling to me that there's people trying to insist they've seen 100% compliance since last summer.

    I don't suppose it matters really.

    We must just live in a parrallel universe...


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  • #3322
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Eejits . I guess even a pandemic wont make them any less of an eejit

    It's the lack of any enforcement really.
    I don't think any of the shops are checked by Guards so it's just not enforced.
    If they were refused service because they weren't wearing a mask then it would be different.

    Thats not what's happening though.


  • #3323
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I work in a retail environment in North Dublin and about 15% of our customers refuse to wear masks on any given day. We're "not allowed" request them to wear one, so they won't.

    Its still mandatory for masks to be worn in retail settings sounds like your managers want a quiet life and not to be enforcing the law by asking staff or doing it themselves to ask people to wear masks which is bollocks.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html#
    By law, you must wear a face coverings in:

    Shops, including pharmacies
    Shopping centres
    Libraries
    Cinemas and cinema complexes
    Theatres
    Concert halls
    Bingo halls
    Museums
    Nail salons, hair salons and barbers
    Tattoo and piercing parlours
    Travel agents and tour operators
    Laundries and dry cleaners
    Bookmakers
    Banks, credit unions and post offices

    It is also mandatory for retail staff to wear a face covering unless there is a partition or they take all reasonable steps to keep a 2-metre distance from others.

    You may be asked to remove your face covering to verify your age or identity to staff.


    Fine and penalties
    If you do not wear a face covering (or ignore a request to wear one) without a reasonable excuse, you can be fined €80. You must pay this fine within 28 days.

    If you do not pay your fine within 28 days, you will be summonsed to court where you may get:

    A fine of up to €1,000
    Up to one months' imprisonment
    Both a fine and imprisonment
    You could be fined more or sent to prison for longer, if it is your second or subsequent offence.

    Wearing a visor does not satisfy the legal requirement to wear a face covering as it does not cover your nose and mouth.

    Public health laws on face coverings are in place until 9 June 2021.

    Shin


  • #3324
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TanookiMario wrote: »
    Its kind of baffling to me that there's people trying to insist they've seen 100% compliance since last summer.

    I don't suppose it matters really.

    We must just live in a parrallel universe...

    Why in God's name would I lie? I repeat that I, personally, have not seen anyone in a shop not wearing a mask since last Summer. I go into a shop perhaps twice a week, so not that often. Usually it's my local spar but once a fortnight it's a supermarket.

    This will be hard to understand for some of you, but the fact that I have seen 100% compliance where I go doesn't mean that your experiences to the contrary are false. I don't disbelieve you, would might do me the courtesy of not doing likewise.

    I should add that my area has had v low covid figures throughout the last year save a brief (big) spike at Christmas. Perhaps, you know, the facts are related - compliance with health advice makes you more likely to be healthy shocker!


  • #3325
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,443 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    shinzon wrote: »
    Its still mandatory for masks to be worn in retail settings sounds like your managers want a quiet life and not to be enforcing the law by ask
    Shin

    The sorts that wander into Spar without a mask up aren't the sorts a young lad or girl on minimum wage is paid to tackle... Enforcement of the law is the job of the Gardai...


    Tenz.


  • #3326
    Arturo Delgado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭Arturo Delgado


    cheezums wrote: »
    ****ing hell. that's quite a bit worse than golfgate. this is gonna blow up.

    Don't care how petty this is, he should get the book thrown at him and resign.


  • #3327
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Quite frankly the emerging more powerful variants which seem less responsive to current vaccines are causing me concern. I hate to think about it, but I believe it will a couple of years before we are back to near normal, as vaccines and vaccination system are tweaked. I imagine foreign travel and indoor pubs are something which will be last to return to default.

    List them! And which vaccines are they less responsive to? And by what measures?


  • #3328
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    The sorts that wander into Spar without a mask up aren't the sorts a young lad or girl on minimum wage is paid to tackle... Enforcement of the law is the job of the Gardai...


    Tenz.


    Way to miss the second bit of my sentence
    by asking staff or doing it themselves to ask people to wear masks which is bollocks.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Shin


  • #3329
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    The sorts that wander into Spar without a mask up aren't the sorts a young lad or girl on minimum wage is paid to tackle... Enforcement of the law is the job of the Gardai...


    Tenz.

    I think that's what people don't understand.
    Maybe because they don't personally see it.
    (Which must be nice.)

    That's really my point is that people think we are in some strict lockdown with strict rules etc when the reality is that many, many, people are completely just living like normal.

    The truth is that there is very little enforcement actually going on.

    I mean, this is how it went over the winter.
    We went into Level 4 lockdown but it wasn't actually enforced so we then got to go to Level 5.

    Open up for Xmas with no real enforcement of the looser restrictions so it's back into Level 5 for 90 days but it isn't enforced so we need to keep businesses closed because people who don't give a damn about those businesses anyway are allowed to do whatever so cases stay up.


  • #3330
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    shinzon wrote: »
    Its still mandatory for masks to be worn in retail settings sounds like your managers want a quiet life and not to be enforcing the law by asking staff or doing it themselves to ask people to wear masks which is bollocks.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html#



    Shin

    Don't really blame them to be honest. It's not worth the hassle.


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  • #3331
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    shinzon wrote: »
    Its still mandatory for masks to be worn in retail settings sounds like your managers want a quiet life and not to be enforcing the law by asking staff or doing it themselves to ask people to wear masks which is bollocks.

    I know. I know it's a legal requirement. We've been told not to enforce it, because "some people can't wear them, you can't discriminate."


    Ultimately though some people will not wear them, no matter what we say or do. I'm not paid enough to argue the toss with them.


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