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Re. Zambrero Newcastle.... looks legit

I wish Myles na gCopaleen was around to mock the outbreak of fake online reviews. It’s a pandemic at this stage. Sometimes you can spot similar expressions and grammatical errors/idiosyncrasies in them.

New nct Centre in tuam

considering barista bus, lad down by blackrock - it wasn't going to end well.

To think otherwise is completly stupid. Council get complaints, they act on it, simple as.

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Did you read what the owners of Ground have said?

what do i need to read other than a lot of whinging and gov bashing, very much the norm these days.

Them like the rest, could have asked for permission first but went ahead hope for it to be ignored. Guess its better to do things as you see fit and seek forgiveness after. Covid or no covid, can't do as you want with respect to putting a structure in place and expect no reaction after.

Bottom line council are likely to be acting on foot of a compliant, its how barista bus was shafted.

Laviski wrote: »

Bottom line council are likely to be acting on foot of a compliant, its how barista bus was shafted.

Agreed. The council have (rightly IMHO) turned a blind eye to all manner of planning breaches over the last 12 months. But if someone actually complains, they are expected to enforce the law.

Likely complainants are competitor business in the area who don't have a whacking big space outside.

Laviski wrote: »

what do i need to read other than a lot of whinging and gov bashing, very much the norm these days.

Them like the rest, could have asked for permission first but went ahead hope for it to be ignored. Guess its better to do things as you see fit and seek forgiveness after. Covid or no covid, can't do as you want with respect to putting a structure in place and expect no reaction after.

Bottom line council are likely to be acting on foot of a compliant, its how barista bus was shafted.

Thought not.

Deleted User wrote: »

We're meant to be supporting businesses to provide outdoor facilities, ridiculous.

Agree.
Owen Hanley Soc Dem has a good piece in Advertiser about this yesterday.
Waiving fees for tables and chairs licences ‘meaningless’ with additional space, says Hanley

City Council Executive(the non elected) been sitting on there hands here, money is available from Central Gov.

Homelander wrote: »

What difference is reading what they said supposed to make? An unauthorised structure is an unauthourised structure. Doesn't really matter what it is or why it was put there.

What are people suggesting, that we have a brown envelope or a wink and a nod system? If they start turning a blind eye or favoring certain businesses, it opens the floodgates.

You can't erect buildings or structures without permission and then cry about it when you're asked to remove it. Making it a "City Council isn't supporting businesses" thing is incredibly disingenuous.

As it will give you some insight into their communication with authorities regarding the issue. But sure not to worry as long as all the rules were followed in this completely normal time for all businesses.

xckjoo wrote: »

If your read the thread on twitter you'll see that they discussed it with the council, explained it was only ever to be temporary during covid and were praised by council members for their ingenuity. It wasn't just a "do what you want" situation. They should had been told it wasn't acceptable then so they wouldn't have sank money and plans into it

"temporary" its very subjective to each individual. what is a limited time frame? few days, few weeks few months few years? just through covid? cause if thats the case it will be here for a very long time, covid isn't going away any time soon.

very naive of them to think this wasn't going to happen. Council "giving credit" doesn't mean giving permission.... unless they had something in writting that they could have it there between x date to x date where it can stand up in court.

its likely the person giving credit were speaking on their own behalf which has no authority on the matter. council staff are rotated around but still stand that they are acting on foot of a compliant.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just to be clear, the "City Council" and "Council members" are 2 completely different branches of the same entity, each with their own priorities.

City Council - enforces planning regs, responsible for the running of the city services

Council members - must get re-elected to remain relevant so all activities and actions will be governed by this goal without shame

So, Council members saying "well done, fair play" means literally nothing in the context of breaches of planning regulations. It is only being done to curry favour and possibly get exposure

He said "member of the council" so not sure what side that falls into.
They Council are happy enough to ignore regulations from time to time (I believe all those branding facades on buildings in the city centre are in breach) but I'll leave it to others with more interest to argue that kind of thing. A local guy trying to run a successful business employing a fair chunk of people in extraordinary times. The Council should be doing whatever they can to support. Particularly when the national government is encouraging just such endeavors.

Blackrock coffee van operating in regular spot today. Maybe they got something sorted or just said feck it with the sun out? Also coffee dock at Galway Bay Hotel looked like a nice spot, front garden of hotel connected to Circle of Life by a walkway, plenty of standing only tables, menu clearly posted, looked to be doing a fair trade.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm all for trying to make the best of a bad situation, however breaking the rules is not the way to go about it, unless of course, you want businesses breaking planning regs like Pat McDonagh & Supermacs who have been taken to task by councils all over the country for flouting of rules and erecting signage all over the shop

Hardly the same thing. One is a good faith effort to keep a business profitable in crazy times and the other is a flaunting of regulations to squeeze out some extra advertising.
It would be good to see the council making the effort to support local businesses through this even if it involves temporarily ignoring regulations.

Sign on the window in the ex Full Duck on Salthill prom, saying spar opening soon.