When will it all end?

GooglePlus · 31-03-2021 04:44PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

A nation of curtain twitchers

You'll find that most of the nation is getting on with it, regardless of what internet forums of a few thousand might be telling us.

Lundstram · 31-03-2021 05:21PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

You'll find that most of the nation is getting on with it, regardless of what internet forums of a few thousand might be telling us.

That's strange because posters were on here not so long ago claiming opinion polls carried out by certain companies were to be trusted and are correct.

Now you're saying the majority of Boards.ie is wrong.

So what ever platform agrees with you is to be trusted but whatever platform doesn't agree with you is not to be trusted.

Odd.

VonLuck · 31-03-2021 05:25PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

A nation of curtain twitchers

I'm a firm believer that the opinions of anyone that resorts to childish labelling should be disregarded, whatever side of the discussion they're only. Just undermines any argument they're making.

GooglePlus · 31-03-2021 05:43PM

Lundstram wrote: »

That's strange because posters were on here not so long ago claiming opinion polls carried out by certain companies were to be trusted and are correct.

Now you're saying the majority of Boards.ie is wrong.

So what ever platform agrees with you is to be trusted but whatever platform doesn't agree with you is not to be trusted.

Odd.

Not sure what you're talking about, I don't recall ever talking about opinion polls on boards and if I did, I've lost any recollection of that. I'm not sure what you mean by platforms that agree with me etc., are you sure you're talking to the right person?

The majority of boards?

gozunda · 31-03-2021 06:09PM

Lundstram wrote: »

That's strange because posters were on here not so long ago claiming opinion polls carried out by certain companies were to be trusted and are correct.

Now you're saying the majority of Boards.ie is wrong.

So what ever platform agrees with you is to be trusted but whatever platform doesn't agree with you is not to be trusted.

Odd.

No just a rather small subset ...

And it has little to do with the platform. The same can be found everywhere unfortunately.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2021 08:27PM

France introducing new nationwide lockdown measures for at least one month. The price for countries that don't keep control of the spread are tougher brake measures rather than softer long term measures.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/mar/31/coronavirus-live-news-who-lab-leak-theory-investigation-quito-hospitals-overwhelmed

Diarmuid · 31-03-2021 08:59PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France introducing new nationwide lockdown measures for at least one month. The price for countries that don't keep control of the spread are tougher brake measures rather than softer long term measures.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/mar/31/coronavirus-live-news-who-lab-leak-theory-investigation-quito-hospitals-overwhelmed

I'm in France and have been since the start of the year. The measures here are far more relaxed than in Ireland. The heavier restrictions that were introduced tonight have been in place for a few departments for the past 2 weeks, including the one I'm in. In short
* Don't travel outside your department (county)
* You are encouraged to spend time outdoors.
* 10km restriction for exercise
* Easter school holidays being brought forward with one additional week of school from home. All back to school 26 April
* Only certain shops open but it seems a lot of shops fall under the allowed list, including hairdressers

Even now, the restrictions are more relaxed that what Irish people have been pretty much living with since October.

ICUs are heavily loaded but reproductive rate is just below 1. The French are against a strict lockdown and Macron is sticking to his guns

Ha Long Bay · 31-03-2021 09:12PM

Diarmuid wrote: »

I'm in France and have been since the start of the year. The measures here are far more relaxed than in Ireland. The heavier restrictions that were introduced tonight have been in place for a few departments for the past 2 weeks, including the one I'm in. In short
* Don't travel outside your department (county)
* You are encouraged to spend time outdoors.
* 10km restriction for exercise
* Easter school holidays being brought forward with one additional week of school from home. All back to school 26 April
* Only certain shops open but it seems a lot of shops fall under the allowed list, including hairdressers

Even now, the restrictions are more relaxed that what Irish people have been pretty much living with since October.

ICUs are heavily loaded but reproductive rate is just below 1. The French are against a strict lockdown and Macron is sticking to his guns

Did you leave out the curfew on purpose from your list?

“We’re going to close nursery, elementary and high schools for three weeks,” he said, adding that a nationwide 7pm-6am curfew will be kept in place.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40255808.html

Diarmuid · 31-03-2021 09:26PM

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

Did you leave out the curfew on purpose from your list?

“We’re going to close nursery, elementary and high schools for three weeks,” he said, adding that a nationwide 7pm-6am curfew will be kept in place.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40255808.html

No, curfew has been in place for weeks.

Ha Long Bay · 31-03-2021 09:28PM

Diarmuid wrote: »

No, curfew has been in place for weeks.

To me personally that would be one of the toughest restrictions, not being able to leave the house after 7pm for 2 months especially coming into summer with the longer evenings etc.

Deeper Blue · 31-03-2021 09:32PM

Diarmuid wrote: »

I'm in France and have been since the start of the year. The measures here are far more relaxed than in Ireland. The heavier restrictions that were introduced tonight have been in place for a few departments for the past 2 weeks, including the one I'm in. In short
* Don't travel outside your department (county)
* You are encouraged to spend time outdoors.
* 10km restriction for exercise
* Easter school holidays being brought forward with one additional week of school from home. All back to school 26 April
* Only certain shops open but it seems a lot of shops fall under the allowed list, including hairdressers

Even now, the restrictions are more relaxed that what Irish people have been pretty much living with since October.

ICUs are heavily loaded but reproductive rate is just below 1. The French are against a strict lockdown and Macron is sticking to his guns

Go away with your actual eyewitness accounts.

The narrative we're going for here is that we have it easy in Ireland and they're being welded into their apartments in France/Germany. Keep up.

Diarmuid · 31-03-2021 09:35PM

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

To me personally that would be one of the toughest restrictions, not being able to leave the house after 7pm for 2 months especially coming into summer with the longer evenings etc.

Fortunately we're not in summer. The evening curfew was relaxed from 6 to 7 as the days got longer and I expect the same will happen in a few weeks. With no restaurants or bars open, there's not a lot going out after 7. And with a [URL="file:///Users/diarmuid/Downloads/20-03-2021-attestation-deplacement-couvre-feu.pdf"]self-certified form[/URL] you can go out after 7pm

Ha Long Bay · 31-03-2021 09:40PM

Diarmuid wrote: »

Fortunately we're not in summer. The evening curfew was relaxed from 6 to 7 as the days got longer and I expect the same will happen in a few weeks. With no restaurants or bars open, there's not a lot going out after 7. And with a [URL="file:///Users/diarmuid/Downloads/20-03-2021-attestation-deplacement-couvre-feu.pdf"]self-certified form[/URL] you can go out after 7pm

Imagine the outrage here in Ireland if you had to fill out a form to leave your house after 7pm. I think the whole CV19 forum could explode.

Diarmuid · 31-03-2021 09:43PM

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

Imagine the outrage here in Ireland if you had to fill out a form to leave your house after 7pm. I think the whole CV19 forum could explode.

I doubt it considering the length and depth of the restrictions that have been accepted with barely a peep

Mr. Karate · 31-03-2021 10:24PM

quokula wrote: »

The ones who want to open everything up are the ones who assume it's just other people who'll die, and don't care who has to die and how many people would be left mourning loved ones as long as they get what they want.

Turn off Fake News RTE already. Florida hasn't had a lockdown since last year. No masks, social distancing or anything. Guess what. The apocalypse didn't happen. The streets aren't littered with bodies. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed. They're in better shape both physically, mentally and economically than the eternal lockdown states of Ny and Ca.

We can open everything in the morning and we'll be fine too.

Lundstram · 31-03-2021 10:41PM

The amount of people posting videos on Twitter moaning about mostly young people out enjoying themselves in parks is hilarious.

Park in Milltown, Dublin thronged, along the Dodder soaking up the sun and Salthill Prom having a drink and a dip. Great to see them out and about because we all know these people have as much a chance of dying by a lightening strike than they do of Covid19.

The young have been treated like sh1t for over a year now, it's nice to see them sticking two fingers up to the government. You reap what you sow.

Jim_Hodge · 31-03-2021 10:47PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Turn off Fake News RTE already. Florida hasn't had a lockdown since last year. No masks, social distancing or anything. Guess what. The apocalypse didn't happen. The streets aren't littered with bodies. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed. They're in better shape both physically, mentally and economically than the eternal lockdown states of Ny and Ca.

We can open everything in the morning and we'll be fine too.

Yes, 5000+ news cases per day and a total of 34000 deaths (widely accepted as under reported) is something we should all aspire to.

Lundstram · 31-03-2021 10:52PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Yes, 5000+ news cases per day and a total of 34000 deaths (widely accepted as under reported) is something we should all aspire to.

Population: 22 million. Equivalent to about 1,100 cases per day in Ireland. We are averaging half that on full lockdown and lets not forget they are streets ahead with vaccines over there.

Florida is famously the retirement home capital of the US which explains their high death rate.

Doesn't seem so dramatic now does it?

Pinch Flat · 31-03-2021 10:58PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Turn off Fake News RTE already. Florida hasn't had a lockdown since last year. No masks, social distancing or anything. Guess what. The apocalypse didn't happen. The streets aren't littered with bodies. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed. They're in better shape both physically, mentally and economically than the eternal lockdown states of Ny and Ca.

We can open everything in the morning and we'll be fine too.

Been keeping an eye on the b117 variant in florida. Just over 800 cases last week. 1200 a few days ago. 2351 today. Be interesting to see how this variant plays out there. Maybe their level of vaccination will work, maybe it wont

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/transmission/variant-cases.html

patnor1011 · 01-04-2021 07:12AM

Geuze wrote: »

The evidence is building that the vaccines prevent transmission, as well as sickness.

The evidence is building that covid pretty much burned out itself. It already killed the most vulnerable people which our very competent government shipped out from hospitals to nursing homes. For the 90% of us, covid is non-issue and about 10% may have it a little worse but a majority of them survive anyway.

From what happened so far we see that covid was and still is far from the disaster we are being sold daily by people looking for their 2 minutes of fame and media who love a good drama.

DellyBelly · 01-04-2021 07:29AM

Lundstram wrote: »

The amount of people posting videos on Twitter moaning about mostly young people out enjoying themselves in parks is hilarious.

Park in Milltown, Dublin thronged, along the Dodder soaking up the sun and Salthill Prom having a drink and a dip. Great to see them out and about because we all know these people have as much a chance of dying by a lightening strike than they do of Covid19.

The young have been treated like sh1t for over a year now, it's nice to see them sticking two fingers up to the government. You reap what you sow.

Yes young people are very unlikely to die of this disease however they can spread it to more vulnerable people.. They are the ones that could die

Hellrazer · 01-04-2021 07:34AM

Lundstram wrote: »

The amount of people posting videos on Twitter moaning about mostly young people out enjoying themselves in parks is hilarious.

Park in Milltown, Dublin thronged, along the Dodder soaking up the sun and Salthill Prom having a drink and a dip. Great to see them out and about because we all know these people have as much a chance of dying by a lightening strike than they do of Covid19.

The young have been treated like sh1t for over a year now, it's nice to see them sticking two fingers up to the government. You reap what you sow.

Here in Maynooth the Harbour field was like Glastonbury the other night It looked like great craic altogether. Guess what the curtain twitchers have done now?

Contacted the Garda who are now putting on extra patrols and are going to actively break up gatherings of people.

Ridiculous stuff altogether.

01-04-2021 07:55AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France introducing new nationwide lockdown measures for at least one month. The price for countries that don't keep control of the spread are tougher brake measures rather than softer long term measures.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/mar/31/coronavirus-live-news-who-lab-leak-theory-investigation-quito-hospitals-overwhelmed

So the French will have a 1 month lockdown that will be much less restrictive than what Ireland have had for the best part of half a year.

Strange argument

VonLuck · 01-04-2021 08:19AM

Lundstram wrote: »

The amount of people posting videos on Twitter moaning about mostly young people out enjoying themselves in parks is hilarious.

Park in Milltown, Dublin thronged, along the Dodder soaking up the sun and Salthill Prom having a drink and a dip. Great to see them out and about because we all know these people have as much a chance of dying by a lightening strike than they do of Covid19.

The young have been treated like sh1t for over a year now, it's nice to see them sticking two fingers up to the government. You reap what you sow.

It's been over a year and you still don't understand why young people (and everyone) are being asked to obey the restrictions? It's not about their health, it's about the health of the more vulnerable.

01-04-2021 08:28AM

VonLuck wrote: »

It's been over a year and you still don't understand why young people (and everyone) are being asked to obey the restrictions? It's not about their health, it's about the health of the more vulnerable.

So it’s of no benefit to them then.
And they’ll be the ones to suffer for years with high unemployment, high national debt, housing crisis, increased taxation, even worse HSE.

Surely societies focus should always be about prioritising a better future?

pjohnson · 01-04-2021 08:30AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So it’s of no benefit to them then.
And they’ll be the ones to suffer for years with high unemployment, high national debt, housing crisis, increased taxation, even worse HSE.

Surely societies focus should always be about prioritising a better future?

Depends if they are already/want to be orphans I guess.

Graham · 01-04-2021 08:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So the French will have a 1 month lockdown that will be much less restrictive than what Ireland have had for the best part of half a year.

Strange argument

Probably not the ideal poster-child for lower restrictions....

The vast medical complex is turning away critically ill patients from smaller towns nearby for lack of space.
Yet even though France is now Europe’s latest virus danger zone, Macron has resisted calls for dramatic action.

The government refuses to acknowledge failure and blames delayed vaccine deliveries and a disobedient public for soaring infections and saturated hospitals. Macron’s critics blame arrogance at the highest levels. They say France’s leaders ignored warning signs and favored political and economic calculations over public health — and lives.

Daily new COVID-19 infections in France have doubled since February to average nearly 40,000. The number of COVID-19 patients in intensive care breached 5,000 this week, exceeding the peak hit during the six-week second lockdown enforced late last year.

More than 40 ICU and emergency doctors in Paris published an op-ed Sunday in the newspaper Journal du Dimanche, warning that ICUs in the region would reach capacity in the next two weeks if restrictions were not tightened.

JimmyVik · 01-04-2021 08:39AM

Graham wrote: »

Probably not the ideal poster-child for lower restrictions....

They left Disneyland open for a long time into Covid and they wonder why it got out of control.

01-04-2021 08:46AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Depends if they are already/want to be orphans I guess.

if these crowds of kids in parks and on canal banks are teenagers, then their parents are only in their 30's and early 40's! So you are being disingenuous when you suggest these kids will be orphaned.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

My sister who lives in Donegal went to her local beauty spot yesterday morning for a walk, its a forest. However the gates were blocked by 2 Gardai cars . Tragically there here had been a suicide during the night of a young local teenager.

THIS is not being spoken about. Surely the "vulnerable" consists of more then people in their 70's and 80's! Many young people are also vulnerable. Mentally. And that is just as important. I hope they continue to socialize and drink with their friends. After a year of this and clueless Government restrictions that no longer make sense, they deserve to be with their friends. There are more ways to die than Covid.

Drifter50 · 01-04-2021 08:52AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France introducing new nationwide lockdown measures for at least one month. The price for countries that don't keep control of the spread are tougher brake measures rather than softer long term measures.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/mar/31/coronavirus-live-news-who-lab-leak-theory-investigation-quito-hospitals-overwhelmed

Well done, you keep on bringing the bad news. I see you have even started another thread to discuss a significant weather event this weekend where temperatures drop to a few degrees below freezing with associated snow showers likely and late season coverings in places over the coming days.

You then conclude with a smiley emoji !!!!!

I`d say you`re great fun in the pub, Oh wait......................

When will it all end?

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