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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I'm the opposite, group 7, but never seen my GP about it, all done through the hospital consultant. My GP would know my condition, but not my medication which makes me group 7.

    I’m the same. I’m sure GPs and consultants will be able to vouch for patients.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    If that is the case then the 60-69 group will be even longer waiting . They were already moved down from 5 to 6 .

    I listened back to Paul Reid on RTE radio today - when he mentioned the 65-69 cohort he started by saying they would be started from mid-May, and then quickly corrected himself to say from mid-April......in parallel with the high risk groups (and presumably also the people aged 70+ getting their second doses). I'm in the 65-69 cohort, and we haven't even been told if we will be going to GP's, or registering online or what, so right now I just don't believe the mid-April start time......I'd love to be proved wrong though! And I have no idea what vaccine we might get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I think 65-69 may largely be done in the vaccination centres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Water John wrote: »
    I think 65-69 may largely be done in the vaccination centres.

    Group 4 are moving very slowly, I think because working out who they are is quite a manual process.

    I don’t see the point in Group 5. It’s a very small number of people, a lot of work to pick them out and they’re all in group 6 anyway.

    With the number of vaccines arriving in the next few weeks + the difficulty identifying Group 4, I fully expect them to launch into Groups 5&6 very soon. If not next week, the week after for the plan to be announced.

    Probably, like you say, in the mass vaccination centres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Water John wrote: »
    I think 65-69 may largely be done in the vaccination centres.

    That's what I'm expecting. And I see that Colm Henry said in mid February that he expected this group to get Astra Zeneca - I haven't seen anything more recent than that. I don't much care which vaccine I get or where I get it to be honest. My arm will be ready.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    All my siblings will get in over the 65yr line. I and OH will fall short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,105 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Asthma? Yeah that's fair enough. Anyone on most immune suppression therapy probably only deal with consultants/hospitals regularly though, things like arthritis, crohns. Many of the drugs used for these people can't even be prescribed by a GP.

    I have Crohn’s disease. I see my GP twice a year and consultant several times. My medical needs are so complex it’s out of a GPS scope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Daniel2021


    How does those who are obese with bmi greater than 40 work? A relative is in that category and would just go to the GP twice a year (if no other issues) for prescriptions to be renewed. Should they ring their GP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,503 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Daniel2021 wrote: »
    How does those who are obese with bmi greater than 40 work? A relative is in that category and would just go to the GP twice a year (if no other issues) for prescriptions to be renewed. Should they ring their GP?

    I would ring your GP just to check that they're being tracked in the system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.

    As I suspected, it's hot air and political spin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,709 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.


    I hear they are this very minute signing the contract with Trotters Independent Trading to deliver them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    It seems likely we should have more vaccines than we could possibly use by August, so the UK could well be joining us in donating any spares to COVAX by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.

    Unbelievable:
    Sunday Times - Sunday - Vaccines from Easter
    Times - Monday - Vaccines in August

    No correction mentioned in the article of the prior article saying Easter. No mention that the vaccines will probably not be needed in August.

    This type of behaviour discredits publications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.

    Great i can vaccinate my cats then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,469 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JTMan wrote: »
    Unbelievable:
    Sunday Times - Sunday - Vaccines from Easter
    Times - Monday - Vaccines in August

    No correction mentioned in the article of the prior article saying Easter. No mention that the vaccines will probably not be needed in August.

    This type of behaviour discredits publications.

    They published whatever crap was fed to them and some people lapped it up while others who actually looked at it said this stinks. There was no way in hell that they'd be able to offer 3 million doses by Easter, looking at logically it couldn't happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,527 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Kind of scary how many people fully believed the "UK will send us 3 million doses by Easter" story even though it was not at all verified and didn't make any sense anyway. Just goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people with fake news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Paul Cullen at the Irish times today questioning the huge amount of people vaccinated in cohort 1 & 2 compared with the known amounts in each. Questions people here have asked for a while.

    Cohort 2 has seen 228,943 people get vaccines yet the HSE only employ 80,000 people work for them in this category. Obviously there are those outside the HSE on the front line but 3 times the amount seems high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,567 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Paul Cullen at the Irish times today questioning the huge amount of people vaccinated in cohort 1 & 2 compared with the known amounts in each. Questions people here have asked for a while.

    Cohort 2 has seen 228,943 people get vaccines yet the HSE only employ 80,000 people work for them in this category. Obviously there are those outside the HSE on the front line but 3 times the amount seems high.

    He's saying 177,000 people have been vaccinated in nursing homes. I'd love to know where he's getting that figure. Dashboard says 100,000. Is he adding on dose 2 to inflate the numbers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Kind of scary how many people fully believed the "UK will send us 3 million doses by Easter" story even though it was not at all verified and didn't make any sense anyway. Just goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people with fake news.

    I don't think many people honestly bought it. Looking through this thread the only ones pushing it as legit are either those who criticise the government for everything, or the few resident anglophiles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Tomorrow's Times of London (Oirish edition) says that London will send vaccines in August.
    That should be really helpful, given that there will be loads of vaccine then.

    That is not what the article said at all.
    The Headline said "Ireland could get millions of Covid vaccines from Britain in August"

    They seem to have made an assumption that once UK adults have got an offer of a 1st dose by end of July they'll send some to Ireland.
    Also the Easter quote came from a "cabinet source"
    A cabinet source said: “Everyone can see the logic of it. It’s good politics, while at the same time solving a genuine public health concern in Northern Ireland.

    “It is a balancing act, making sure that we have enough vaccines to give the UK’s adult population the second dose. Easter will be when we might be able to start offering vaccines to Ireland.”
    Todays article
    Britain is prepared to give millions of vaccines to Ireland once all adults in the UK have been offered their first jabs.

    The UK government yesterday announced that 30 million people had received their first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, representing 57 per cent of all adults. Boris Johnson, the UK prime minister, has said that all adults in the UK will be offered their first dose of a vaccine by the end of July.

    Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, has held broad discussions with Brandon Lewis, the Northern Ireland secretary, about the plans.

    It is the intention of the Irish government that 80 per cent of all adults will have received one dose of the vaccine by the end of June.

    The Irish government earlier yesterday played down any prospect of an imminent delivery of excess Covid-19 vaccines from the UK. A spokesman told The Times: “We are not aware of any specific plans to share vaccines with Ireland at this stage.”

    Simon Coveney, the foreign affairs minister, told RTÉ Radio 1’s This Week show: “There isn’t an offer that I’m aware of, or that the government’s aware of, from the UK. Of course, if there was we’d be very interested in talking to the British government about that.”

    The comments came in response to The Sunday Times reporting that UK ministers were working on plans to share 3.7 million doses with the Irish Republic.

    Arlene Foster, Northern Ireland’s first minister, has insisted that the proposal is a “runner” and has pledged to continue to lobby Johnson to prioritise Ireland when it comes to distributing spare vaccines.

    Ireland has now administered more than 800,000 doses of Covid-19 vaccines.

    The UK announcement came as pharmacists in Ireland said they were “still in the dark” about when they could begin administering vaccines.

    There are more than 1,800 pharmacists in the country and they will play a key role in the government’s plans to administer one million vaccines per month from April.

    Darragh O’Loughlin, secretary general of the Irish Pharmacy Union, said: “Pharmacists are increasingly frustrated at the complete lack of clarity on when they can begin vaccinating their patients and the broader public.”

    He said pharmacists still had “no information” on when they would begin vaccinating.

    O’Loughlin added: “The Irish Pharmacy Union is concerned that any further delay in rolling out the service will lead to a failure to meet our vaccination targets. We are urgently calling on the Minister for Health and the HSE to clarify when pharmacists can begin vaccinating.”

    He also said there was a “significant disparity” in the vaccination of pharmacy staff from region to region and called for this situation to be addressed immediately.

    “While a significant number of pharmacy staff, as essential frontline workers, have thankfully now been vaccinated, for some reason there are areas of the country where there has been little, if any, movement on vaccination of this key cohort,” he added.

    He said if there was not “rapid progress” to address this matter, there could be a “serious knock-on impact” on the rollout of vaccinations in those areas.

    Public health officials and the government will meet today to decide what, if any, restrictions to ease before April 5 when the current restrictions are due to end.

    Speaking yesterday, Catherine Martin, deputy leader of the Green Party and a member of cabinet, said the government “expects” to be in a position to extend the current 5km travel limit and easing some outdoor restrictions to allow small groups of people to meet up outdoors.

    Coveney said: “I would expect, but I can’t be sure, that we would be looking at the 5km restriction, that we’d be looking at outdoor activity, that we will certainly want to facilitate completing the full return to school for children after April 5.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    My dad got a call from his GP just now - he's getting the vaccine on Thursday morning :):) Great news to start the week!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Granddad (86) got his first dose last week as well, bit of fever for a day and some muscle aches, all gone by the following day. Vaccine and immune system doing their jobs.


  • Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was looking at the vaccine figures there and can't for the life of me figure out how we can get to having offered at least a single dose to 80% of adults by end of June.

    We seem to be scheduled for circa 3m doses delivered in the next three months, of that, 1.75m to 2m will be first or single dose, 1m to 1.25m of it will be required for second dose. Add that to our current single dose figure and that would mean at best 2.55m people will have been given at least a single dose by the end of June (and we'll have about 1.5m fully dosed) that's somewhere around 63% of our adult population (still a good figure but someway short of where I'd hoped we'd be).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,062 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I was looking at the vaccine figures there and can't for the life of me figure out how we can get to having offered at least a single dose to 80% of adults by end of June.

    We seem to be scheduled for circa 3m doses delivered in the next three months, of that, 1.75m to 2m will be first or single dose, 1m to 1.25m of it will be required for second dose. Add that to our current single dose figure and that would mean at best 2.55m people will have been given at least a single dose by the end of June (and we'll have about 1.5m fully dosed) that's somewhere around 63% of our adult population (still a good figure but someway short of where I'd hoped we'd be).

    Whatever amount if Johnson and Johnson will just be one dose so that increases it a bit. I'm pretty certain we won't be at 80% anyway by end of June


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    I was looking at the vaccine figures there and can't for the life of me figure out how we can get to having offered at least a single dose to 80% of adults by end of June.

    We seem to be scheduled for circa 3m doses delivered in the next three months, of that, 1.75m to 2m will be first or single dose, 1m to 1.25m of it will be required for second dose. Add that to our current single dose figure and that would mean at best 2.55m people will have been given at least a single dose by the end of June (and we'll have about 1.5m fully dosed) that's somewhere around 63% of our adult population (still a good figure but someway short of where I'd hoped we'd be).

    Have you factored in that johnson and johnson is one shot only and we're getting 600k of them in q2 apparently.


  • Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    titan18 wrote: »
    Whatever amount if Johnson and Johnson will just be one dose so that increases it a bit.

    I factored that in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Skygord


    Wife is cohort 4, getting vaccinated today with AZ.

    She got a text last Tuesday from her hospital (private one) asking her agreement to share her medical data with the HSE. Just text back yes or no.

    On Friday she got a text saying to come for the vaccine on Monday. Confirm by texting back yes or no.

    Delighted, as she has several conditions that put her in cohort 4.

    p.s. oh and when I went to get bread and milk this morning I saw an HSE cold chain van - the delight in seeing it was like a kid seeing the 1st ice cream van of the Summer!


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  • Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Have you factored in that johnson and johnson is one shot only and we're getting 600k of them in q2 apparently.

    Factored in, but I think it kind of highlights that we should almost definitely move to a 12 week dosing gap strategy for the mRNA vaccines once we get to the general population under 50 group.


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