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F1 2021 :Round 1 Bahrain

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    The excuses on this forum everytime he wins. "Oh he is in the best car, he gets special treatment, Max in the same car would destroy him blah blah". RB have a very good car this year maybe a slight advantage on merc. 10 lap older tires and still Max couldnt beat him. So whats the excuses now guys?

    Give it a rest ffs, you're the only one flagging it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Zookey123


    Nobody's doubting his ability, but he does get his fair share of the luck and he cheated today and got away with it. No way in hell any driver was not aware of track limits on any part of the circuit.

    We hate Lewis because he's a complete and utter twat.

    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Irishjg


    That was a fantastic race. The battles throughout were really good. Both Max and Lewis were on another planet on the last 10 laps of the race. Throughly enjoyable first race of the season.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Lougho


    Absolutely brilliant race by lewis. I watches it with friends who had him wrote off on grounds his hards wouldn't hold to a 2 stop strategy.

    Once again showing he is the Greatest of all time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?

    You realize that was in response to Hamilton doing it beforehand and getting away with it? Give your head a wobble


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,265 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?

    He gave the position back immediately.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Nobody's doubting his ability, but he does get his fair share of the luck and he cheated today and got away with it. No way in hell any driver was not aware of track limits on any part of the circuit.

    We hate Lewis because he's a complete and utter twat.

    Loads of people doubt his ability.

    For anyone to say ‘nobody doubts his ability’ is chatting complete and utter nonsense. Every race there is some excuse that undermines his ability and it’s because people think he’s a complete and utter twat.

    ‘Cheated today and got away with it’. Exactly my point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?

    That was clearly Horner’s classic mind games. The if they won’t call it well do it too so. And it worked. Quickly after all of them were told to stop so it worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?

    He wasn't doing it, that's the difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Mercedes-Benz and Red Bull still miles ahead. Remember Bottas had a disaster of a pitstop and still had enough of a gap to Norris in 4th to put in a stop for softs to go after the fastest lap point.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    He gave the position back immediately.

    This was a long time before the overtake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    quokula wrote: »
    It’s really hard to take F1 seriously as a sport when there’s a different set of rules for Mercedes and everyone else.

    You can't possibly be suggesting it's okay to overtake another car with all 4 wheels off the track?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Irishjg


    He gave the position back immediately.

    He was referring to both drivers exceeding track limits at turn four throughout the race I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Max was told by his own engineer to take advantage of that. So was he cheating too?

    and then race control put an end to it. Hamilton may well have gained 3-4 seconds over Max before Max pitted meaning he has more to make up after, leaving fewer laps to attempt the overtake.

    Quite simple. Every breach of track limits = 1 second stationary prior to a pit stop. [exclude lap 1]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    Good drive by Lewis. Even though I find him a boring character on the grid can’t deny he’s some driver.

    Hoping that today is a sign of more battling this year to come.

    Be interesting to get Perez in the mix.

    Seems unfortunately rest of teams still a good bit behind Red Bull and Merc. But who knows what will happen!

    Entertaining start to the year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Lougho


    skipper_G wrote: »
    You can't possibly be suggesting it's okay to overtake another car with all 4 wheels off the track?

    Next they will be saying cross the sand on an open hair pin to gain an advantage is acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Zookey123


    Lawlesz wrote: »
    You realize that was in response to Hamilton doing it beforehand and getting away with it? Give your head a wobble

    So Lewis does it and its cheating, but when Max does the same " He is just responding to Lewis". Breaching the track limits is either cheating or its not. Also its up to the stewards to enforce this rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Very subdued podium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 414 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    BrentMused wrote: »
    Superb drive from Hamilton and a clinic in tyre management as always, but lack of patience really cost Max there.

    He inevitably would have caught Lewis on the straight at the end of that lap if he had more patience.

    Completely agree with this. I guess because of the usual Merc dominance Max hasn’t quite gained the experience of patience and being clever in the latter stages. As Brundle says, he could have waited until turn 13/14 to let Lewis pass so then he would get DRS on the home straight and retake the position - that sort of thinking comes with experience. Tactics from RB also seemed out of character but I’m guessing that was to get Perez up to top-5 to act as a block.

    Hats off to Perez though and a lot of other drivers. It’s refreshing to see so many teams in the mix and some proper racing across the top and middle of field.

    Also, delighted Mazepin crashed out on lap 1. Hopefully he learns a bit of humility!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Jaysus, three weeks until the next race!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,265 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Loads of people doubt his ability.

    For anyone to say ‘nobody doubts his ability’ is chatting complete and utter nonsense. Every race there is some excuse that undermines his ability and it’s because people think he’s a complete and utter twat.

    ‘Cheated today and got away with it’. Exactly my point.

    How much of a cumulative advantage did he get from all those laps when he went out of limits? Add it up and see what you get at the end of the race.

    Blinkers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    Max and Bottas have no interest in celebrations...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    3 weeks to the next race!


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    To everyone saying Mercedes cheated.

    Show me where Lewis Hamilton overtook someone in this race with all four wheels off the track?

    Otherwise, you’re comparing apples and oranges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭lolie


    Really disappointed Max didn't win but that was the stewards fault for not warning Mercedes earlier in the race for going wide at turn 4.
    Max got the pass done but it was his tiny error and great driving from Hamilton that lost him the race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Faugheen wrote: »
    To everyone saying Mercedes cheated.

    Show me where Lewis Hamilton overtook someone in this race with all four wheels off the track?

    Otherwise, you’re comparing apples and oranges.

    Perez had a time deleted yesterday.

    Where was Hamilton/Bottas punishment today


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Even with the bad pit stop Bottas was well off the pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    lolie wrote: »
    Really disappointed Max didn't win but that was the stewards fault for not warning Mercedes earlier for going wide at turn 4.
    Max got the pass done but it was his tiny error and great driving from Hamilton that lost him the race.

    He had his chances. Wasn’t able to take it. Maybe next time.

    Regardless, what a season we may have in store for us. It would be great to see a competitive race every week.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    How much of a cumulative advantage did he get from all those laps when he went out of limits? Add it up and see what you get at the end of the race.

    Blinkers.

    How much of an advantage did Max get for doing the same thing before the overtake?

    How much of an advantage did Max get when they were side-by-side?

    Hamilton got a track-limits warning. Did you know that?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Perez had a time deleted yesterday.

    Where was Hamilton/Bottas punishment today

    Hamilton got a warning and told next time was a penalty.


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