COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

worlds goodest teecher · 26-03-2021 11:15PM

1huge1 wrote: »

Sounds like "Cohort 4 - Very High Risk", people who are immunocompromised, cancer patients, down symdrome and so on.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/people-at-higher-risk.html#very-high-risk

Is that the cohort that they are vaccinating at the moment? I am in my 40s

odyssey06 · 26-03-2021 11:26PM

plastic glass wrote: »

Wow! This just hit home. 20 private school teachers got the vaccine before many people with Down syndrome. So sad

Sadly people with down syndrome arent as good at skipping the queue when the opportunity presents itself as young healthy people.

Danzy · 26-03-2021 11:31PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Sadly people with down syndrome arent as good at skipping the queue when the opportunity presents itself as young healthy people.

Lol, dial back the woe is us routine.

If a hospital rang up and said we have 20 vaccines going, they'll be wasted otherwise, who would presume otherwise.

It was wrong but it's on the. Hospital CEO.

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 26-03-2021 11:52PM

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Chancellor Merkel hopes that the Biontech plant in Marburg will bring about a major turning point in the German vaccination campaign against the corona virus. The first vaccines produced there are to be delivered from mid-April.

After the official approval of the new Biontech plant in Marburg by the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the first vaccines produced there will be transported to Belgium for filling in the next few days. As the Mainz company announced on Friday, the corona vaccines finally have to be labeled and packaged.

After these last work steps, which take place in the Pfizer plant in Puurs, final quality tests are then scheduled again, including by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI) and the company's own control. The delivery of the first vaccines manufactured in Marburg to the vaccination centers is targeted for the second half of April.

Up to 250 million vaccine doses by July
Biontech plans to produce up to 250 million doses of its corona vaccine in the Marburg plant this half year. Once it is fully operational, it could produce up to a billion doses of the vaccine annually. The plant in Central Hesse is thus one of the largest production facilities for mRNA vaccines in the world.

Also on Friday, the EMA decided that the corona vaccine from Biontech / Pfizer can also be temporarily stored at less low temperatures in the future. As the authority announced, the vaccine can be stored for up to two weeks at temperatures between minus 25 and minus 15 degrees and thus in standard pharmaceutical freezers. This should also make vaccination possible by general practitioners.

Until now, long-term storage in special freezers between minus 90 and minus 60 degrees was required for the vaccine, which prevented it from being used in outpatient practices or in poor countries.

400 Biontech employees in Marburg
Chancellor Angela Merkel (CDU) had already said in the first on Wednesday evening that the vaccination campaign against the coronavirus in Germany would be significantly accelerated with the approval of the vaccine delivery from Marburg.

400 Biontech employees currently work in the plant, 200 of them in production in shifts around the clock, seven days a week.

27-03-2021 12:04AM

I hadn’t realised how embedded the propaganda is in the uk until I happened to catch bbc ni newsline tonight. An interview with a director at Pfizer was shown. This director was a British physician who works for Pfizer, and as presented this was yet more evidence of the glory of the British vaccine effort. That this physician was actually based in New York was not mentioned, nor was the fact that the actual vaccine itself was developed in Germany by BioNtech. Pfizer helped greatly in scaling this vaccine, but the technical development of the mRNA vaccine was German.

landofthetree · 27-03-2021 12:17AM

The Tory government and Boris are already planning for booster vaccines for over 70s.

Private Joker · 27-03-2021 12:21AM

I don't know if its been mentioned before but do you think that if levels of the virus decline seasonally like last year would the uptake of the vaccine decline just when supplies are plentiful, due to a perceived lower threat of infection?

Wolf359f · 27-03-2021 12:22AM

landofthetree wrote: »

The Tory government and Boris are already planning for booster vaccines for over 70s.

Let's hope they are not actually just their second dose re-labeled as a new booster!

washman3 · 27-03-2021 12:41AM

plastic glass wrote: »

Wow! This just hit home. 20 private school teachers got the vaccine before many people with Down syndrome. So sad

Welcome to The Banana Republic Of Ireland....;)

User1998 · 27-03-2021 01:01AM

landofthetree wrote: »

The Tory government and Boris are already planning for booster vaccines for over 70s.

Well at that stage it will have been over 9 months since some people received their first jab

mick087 · 27-03-2021 01:20AM

landofthetree wrote: »

The Tory government and Boris are already planning for booster vaccines for over 70s.

Did Frank Skinner come out as a christian then? :pac::pac:

stephenjmcd · 27-03-2021 07:24AM

Never saw that AZ had appointed an Irish president a few weeks ago

Ireland can expect ‘large volume’ of vaccines in coming weeks, says AstraZeneca boss

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-can-expect-large-volume-of-vaccines-in-coming-weeks-says-astrazeneca-boss-1.4521328?mode=amp

JacksonHeightsOwn · 27-03-2021 08:03AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Never saw that AZ had appointed an Irish president a few weeks ago

Ireland can expect ‘large volume’ of vaccines in coming weeks, says AstraZeneca boss

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-can-expect-large-volume-of-vaccines-in-coming-weeks-says-astrazeneca-boss-1.4521328?mode=amp

We've been hearing that since January........

spakman · 27-03-2021 08:04AM

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mick087 wrote: »

Did Frank Skinner come out as a christian then? :pac::pac:

Always been a practicing Catholic

stephenjmcd · 27-03-2021 08:23AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

We've been hearing that since January........

Except the Halix site was approved yesterday which should deliver decent numbers.... (well that's the hope)

Pete_Cavan · 27-03-2021 08:36AM

Is there any indication if the booster would be for those who have received a particular type of vaccine or for all?

Midlife · 27-03-2021 08:56AM

Danzy wrote: »

Lol, dial back the woe is us routine.

If a hospital rang up and said we have 20 vaccines going, they'll be wasted otherwise, who would presume otherwise.

It was wrong but it's on the. Hospital CEO.

Nope. The head of the school should saddle huge blame. Who here would say a collective yes for their entire organisation to skip the queue. Surely wouldn't you ring some elderly people with underlying conditions or find someone more worthy.

Thanks but no thanks was the blindingly obvious answer.

Especially a school. What lesson is this for young people.

quartz1 · 27-03-2021 09:04AM

I hope I am wrong but I get the feeling we are all just waiting to witness the HSE make a total mess of rolling this out.

Midlife · 27-03-2021 09:09AM

quartz1 wrote: »

I hope I am wrong but I get the feeling we are all just waiting to witness the HSE make a total mess of rolling this out.

Nah, it's very uncomplicated in fairness and they've been good so far at getting vaccines into people when they come in. The problem with the Beacon was just that distasteful thing of the upper layer of Irish society looking after themselves.

quartz1 · 27-03-2021 09:29AM

With the EU policy change that occurred last week is their any indication that it will increase deliveries of AZ into Ireland. I presume such an increase has not been factored into the Government's estimations . Are the EU Az & Uk currently negotiating about the stockpile in Italy and the future outout from the newly approved Dutch plant

irishgeo · 27-03-2021 09:35AM

quartz1 wrote: »

With the EU policy change that occurred last week is their any indication that it will increase deliveries of AZ into Ireland. I presume such an increase has not been factored into the Government's estimations . Are the EU Az & Uk currently negotiating about the stockpile in Italy and the future outout from the newly approved Dutch plant

The stock in Italy is from the Dutch plant. we are getting 160k doses from that but no one is sure if that's extra or included in our delivery.

The planned delivery schedule is just what AZ promised to deliver. Just getting steady deliverys would be a win at this stage.

Vicxas · 27-03-2021 09:56AM

irishgeo wrote: »

The stock in Italy is from the Dutch plant. we are getting 160k doses from that but no one is sure if that's extra or included in our delivery.

The planned delivery schedule is just what AZ promised to deliver. Just getting steady deliverys would be a win at this stage.

Think i seen somewhere its in addition to our agreed supply

stephenjmcd · 27-03-2021 10:27AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Think i seen somewhere its in addition to our agreed supply

Pretty sure it's the existing supply. It's what AZ were banking on to use to deliver decent numbers end of March/start of April.

Roughly half is for covax and the rest for the EU. Couldn't be shipped as Halix wasn't approved.

They aren't in a position to be supply the agreed contract never mind anything in addition

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-03-2021 10:41AM

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Is there any indication if the booster would be for those who have received a particular type of vaccine or for all?

The UK are talking about boosters for all high risk people.

They will adjust based on evidence if doses received or variants give specific concern to certain people. If there's no evidence they will just offer it for all high risk people.

Dressoutlet · 27-03-2021 11:08AM

Midlife wrote: »

Nope. The head of the school should saddle huge blame. Who here would say a collective yes for their entire organisation to skip the queue. Surely wouldn't you ring some elderly people with underlying conditions or find someone more worthy.

Thanks but no thanks was the blindingly obvious answer.

Especially a school. What lesson is this for young people.

I would take it. Yes I'm in a high risk group but even if I wasn't I would. And if that makes me selfish well so be it, I am allowed to be selfish and put my life/health/needs before other people's. Especially when a year was already given up to protect others. Life is not fair, but I don't begrudge any teacher who got a vaccine before me. They're allowed not to care about me.

1huge1 · 27-03-2021 11:20AM

worlds goodest teecher wrote: »

Is that the cohort that they are vaccinating at the moment? I am in my 40s

They have begun vaccinating them, 15k so far in that cohort I believe, that doesn't mean they are finished with the first 3 cohorts though.

My dad is 67 and immunocompromised and has been told by his doctor that he'll hopefully get his first dose early in April.

Apogee · 27-03-2021 11:51AM

Wed - 21,969 (highest to date). Gone over 200k second doses.

MerlinSouthDub · 27-03-2021 11:56AM

Apogee wrote: »

Wed - 21,969 (highest to date). Gone over 200k second doses.

Brilliant. That's given me a spring in my step for the weekend. Over 20000 in a day without using MVCs to any significant extent. We'll easily be able to 250000 a week once we have the supplies.

This should be the headline news on RTE today (I know it won't be)

Sanjuro · 27-03-2021 12:19PM

Out of curiosity, if supply wasn't an issue, what's the ceiling for vaccinations per day in Ireland does anyone know?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-03-2021 12:41PM

Sanjuro wrote: »

Out of curiosity, if supply wasn't an issue, what's the ceiling for vaccinations per day in Ireland does anyone know?

3500 working GPs in Ireland. Let's say each does 30 a day with other calls.

1500 pharmacies working a day in Ireland. Let's say half of them have a consultation room that can be used for vaccine delivery. Let's say each does 30 a day.

That alone is 127000. It doesn't take into account practice nurses mass vaccination centres and people operating a challenging schedule rather than doing a relatively easy day.

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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