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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    34k people flew into the country in the last 4 weeks

    34 thousand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    Acosta wrote: »
    The existing rules are not being policed properly.

    We have a situation were Guards are operating check points every single day since just after Christmas. They generally operate from 7am to around 9pm at night. But instead of the Guards that are operating these check points moving them around between 4 or 5 different locations in that general area during the day, they stay in the same position.

    Everyone knows where they are, that they don't move and they are easy to avoid. There has also been less of them during this the worst of the 3 lockdowns regarding case numbers and deaths.

    I live in Cork. I could drive from the Waterford border to Mizen Head and not meet one checkpoint, because I know where they are and how to avoid.

    If something if worth putting so much resources in why not do the bloody thing properly.

    Checkpoints are basically a show. The vocal part of the public was complaining that the restriction where not enforced, so they started to put some Gards around to show. They’re easy to skip and almost useless anyway, because you can just make up any excuse to pass them.
    I think it’s the same for hotel quarantine by the way. Very few cases are linked to travel, and a negative test is already required to come into the country (I think it would instead help to require people to have a PCR test from 48 before, a rapid test for 4 and to take a rapid test as soon as you land - but we don’t believe in those in this country) - but it’s a high show restriction that can make headlines.

    As for moving the checkpoints around, you can just download Waze and see where they are - so unless they move them around every 5 minutes it’s not going to help much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Every single person I have spoken to or texted for the past two weeks are unanimous in saying

    “ I AM SO FECKIN FED UP NOW “


    Every age group are struggling now and it needs to be addressed


    Any of them have any suggestions on how to address it?

    Lifting restrictions = a marked increase in cases. Think Christmas.

    Allowing cases to shoot up, with a few months to go before decent vaccine coverage, sounds like madness to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    34k people flew into the country in the last 4 weeks

    34 thousand

    That’s an absolute disgrace knowing what’s happening in Europe now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    34k people flew into the country in the last 4 weeks

    34 thousand

    It was actually this carry on that got me to open my eyes eventually and say no more.

    An absolute disgrace and shows the pure disregard that NPHET and our government have for the people in this country.

    They must think we're utter fools altogether.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Boggerman12


    Leo asked a simple question of the sainted Tony and his cabal last Oct about what would level 5 achieve and if it didn’t what was plan b.after that appearance on the comedy show Clare Byrne has turned into he was ripped to pieces by the usual suspects in the media and elsewhere.
    Well it’s fair to say and I’m not the biggest fan of Leo but he was bang on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    34k people flew into the country in the last 4 weeks

    34 thousand

    Who will have taken their test prior to boarding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    You cant confirm it though. Your view that no one is may be skewed by those around you following your bad example. But not necessarily representative of the population on Donegal as a whole.
    I presume from your user name your from Kerry,so i will forgive you for not knowing that contrary to what you think Donegal is indeed unique in so far as the rule of law,restrictions,regulations,do not apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Corholio wrote: »


    Um....I don't envy anyone having to deal with the on/off nature of schools but you actually completed missed the point of my post.

    Sarcasm? If so apologies for not picking up on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Except these were charged while exercising their right to protest which is a cornerstone of democracy.

    We can argue back and forth weather that right should be suspended or not, but it is suspended and thus democracy with it.

    The suspension of which may be justified, but people have no way to communicate their displeasure at the handling of this crisis for the last few weeks and intended handling of the crisis into the future so I think we are stuck as we are for a long time

    They were charged because they refused to give the Gardai their names and addresses. If they had not refused they wouldn’t have been in court, they would probably have been fined for being outside their 5km and their details wouldn’t be a matter of public record.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Are we just going to have to accept that 300-700 cases daily is going to be par for the course with this lockdown? I’m not sure what else the government expect to be honest one year into this and pretty much six months of level 5 with a two week reprieve, and the added failures of the vaccine rollout failure and quarantine failure. We will never see numbers <100 like we did last summer. It’s pretty pointless continually punishing people who can’t wander more than 5k, for government failures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Who will have taken their test prior to boarding.

    Not the point, tell the nation that they can't go anywhere or meet anyone, yet the door is wide open of you want to come here. Do you really expect people to remain focused and on side with anything after that?

    It's double standards and is an insult to people's intelligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,389 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Skyfloater wrote: »
    The Business post had a list on here a month ago or so. It wasn't the most accurate but will give you ballpark.

    Thanks. You’d hardly have a link?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Who will have taken their test prior to boarding.

    If that really mattered a jot, there would be no need for quarantine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Why is the last vaccine group phase for adults 18-54? Surely there should be a 40-54 first logically. Not arguing for that, but it seems illogical not to break the group down as it has for higher age groups.

    Yeah, the last group is way too big and way too broad (it is actually 16-54). Inevitably it will get broken down into further groups. The UK had a big final group too and they broke it down into 50+, 40+ etc. I suspect the same will happen here. It needs to occur in descending age order in accordance with risk of death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Who will have taken their test prior to boarding.

    So if I take a test am I exempt from the 5K rule?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 92 ✭✭Wearing of The Green


    darced wrote: »
    Saving a few cases for the next announcement, get the fear going.

    You'd be sick of this crap. If they were saving cases why would they announce a backlog today when there's no restrictions announcement?

    There was no holding back of cases for a Patrick's Day scare either. It's cliched rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    But what strange synchronised event could have happened to allow this to happen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Any of them have any suggestions on how to address it?

    Lifting restrictions = a marked increase in cases. Think Christmas.

    Allowing cases to shoot up, with a few months to go before decent vaccine coverage, sounds like madness to me.

    Its not up to us to suggest anything . Its up to the Government to get its act together .
    34k people waltzing into the country with no quarantine . Track and trace not up to scratch , ICU beds no adequate , hospital capacity not adequate . They had 12 months to get this sorted and nothing done
    There is no point lecturing the public about giving a little more when they have no more to give
    Mental health issues are rising fast and none of this is being addressed
    The people are desperate for leadership and guidance and its obvious now they are pleading for it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Every single person I have spoken to or texted for the past two weeks are unanimous in saying

    “ I AM SO FECKIN FED UP NOW “


    Every age group are struggling now and it needs to be addressed

    Agree but some for different reasons. Alot of parents and teachers don't feel safe and are anxious. Other groups then not happy in lockdown which is obviously very understanding. Its a balancing act and the government have it wrong at the moment. If they wanted cases below 200 opening schools was counterintuitive and prolonged pain for the rest of society.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    So if I take a test am I exempt from the 5K rule?

    Of course not. But nor are those who came into the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭cheezums


    i mean who the **** are these people flying into ireland?? some essential support workers, but surely that's only a small proportion of it.

    absolute shambles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Of course not. But nor are those who came into the country.

    No idea what you are trying to say, is it ok for 34000 people to come in from all over the world because they took a test or do you see an issue with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    jackboy wrote: »
    Will be interesting this Friday. School due to close for two week Easter holidays. Wonder will children have to bring home all books on Friday in case the school will not be opening after the holidays.

    I would be in favour of schools remaining open at all costs.

    Schools is incredibly important in a child’s development socially, mentally and physically.

    I’d like to see has there been any discussion on the effects of the long term absenteeism we have had for a lot of the last year?

    Luke O Neill wrote a piece on the importance of schools from a developmental point of view in May 2020 in the Irish independent (I think) and I’ve not heard him mention it since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    JTMan wrote: »
    Yeah, the last group is way too big and way too broad (it is actually 16-54). Inevitably it will get broken down into further groups. The UK had a big final group too and they broke it down into 50+, 40+ etc. I suspect the same will happen here. It needs to occur in descending age order in accordance with risk of death.

    That’s already happening with the third cohort. This group is 75+ (Might be 65, but anyways) and the rollout was 85+ followed by 80-85 and I think they’re starting 75-80 this week. I’d expect the same with the other larger age groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Of course not. But nor are those who came into the country.

    They shouldn't have been allowed to come here at all, or at least in such an uncontrolled manner.

    It's an insult to everyone who followed the rules and is a perfect example of yet another f*ck up from the people who we are supposed to be blindly listening to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    cheezums wrote: »
    i mean who the **** are these people flying into ireland?? some essential support workers, but surely that's only a small proportion of it.

    absolute shambles.
    There are a pack of cvnts who are heading off on sun holidays "for me mental health" and basically don't give a **** about anyone else.

    NPHET have been saying for a year now that more has to be done about travel, and while I appreciate the difficulties when we have an open border up north, theres been no real attempts to do anything about it until now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Locotastic wrote: »
    They shouldn't have been allowed to come here at all, or at least in such an uncontrolled manner.

    It's an insult to everyone who followed the rules and is a perfect example of yet another f*ck up from the people who we are supposed to be blindly listening to.

    I suspect you'll find a lot of them were irish people returning home. Not like 34000 people just decided to go to Ireland for the craic in the middle of a pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Static Jac on Reddit Ireland's Sunday data
    So that's 3,864 cases this week.

    An increase of 320 cases compared to last week and the first week we've seen an increase rather than a decrease in cases since the lockdown took effect.

    To just add, from Gavin Reilly:

    "Based on figures of daily swabs in last few days, and Wednesday being a bank holiday, there was probably a minor backlog of cases being reported"


    But then Richard Chambers with:


    Not a backlog, I’m told. Hopefully not a trend though.


    A list of previous weeks (Mon-Sun) for anyone interested:


    A graph of weekly cases.


    All information gathered on gov.ie from the Department of Health.
    • Week 53 - 15,759 (National Level 5: 30/12)
    • Week 01 (2021) - 45,770
    • Week 02 - 25,212
    • Week 03 - 14,877
    • Week 04 - 9,016
    • Week 05 - 7,170
    • Week 06 - 6,044
    • Week 07 - 5,564
    • Week 08 - 4,574
    • Week 09 - 3,660
    • Week 10 - 3,544
    • Week 11 - 3,864 (This Week)


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