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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #8342
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    I dont know. But it is clear more are need. Anything that reduces the interraction of people and thus on transmission, yet has the least harm on people's lives.

    A curfew is one option many countries have used.
    A lot of shops could be closed. Go strictly for food and medicines.
    An increase in the fines. A lot of people have been fined, but it needs to raise to a level where it is a real problem for someone if they are caught, not just a bad luck story laughed off.
    Reduce the 5km for exercise to 2km.
    Possibly write off the school year. A drastic one admittedly, but maybe better in the long run for the kids too, if they get a proper school year from September.

    You're off your rocker mate


  • #8343
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    gifted wrote: »
    Curfew time?

    Ideally yes. Because it worked very well in other countries, see: UAE

    That's not sarcasm btw, it really drove the numbers down there

    But the Guards can't police even the Luas. I've zero faith they could police a curfew


  • #8344
    Glenomra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    In Clare and I know through extended family members of a number of Cheltenham pub gatherings last week, on average one for every 2 parishes. Also, know of many young people who have moved temporarily to apartments to socialize with friends. Parents happy as the domestic pressure was rising in many instances. Quite simply many people just ignore the restrictions and I personally don't blame them. As one neighbour said to me 'life is for living'.


  • #8345
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    11521323 wrote: »
    I have no idea how to even respond, your relentless refusal to accept reality is rendering any discussion pointless. Goodbye.

    I know you have no idea, it's ok.
    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • #8346
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    I know you have no idea, it's ok.

    You're not even making sense when you post, I can't form a rebuttal to something that has no logic or reason.


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  • #8347
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why didn't they spend 2020 creating 500-1,000 new ICU beds and training staff / re-training other healthcare staff, accordingly?


  • #8348
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    covidrelease wrote: »
    And gathering indoors, because the much safer option of gathering outdoors is forbidden and enforced by the stazi.

    True enough. The government need to urgently encourage outdoor activities and meet-ups and strictly enforce restrictions against indoor meet ups, parties etc. We can’t have another spike.


  • #8349
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    11521323 wrote: »
    You and every other fanatic on here who rabble on about "not being able to follow simple instructions" have a twisted view of reality that fails to take into account human nature.

    The lack of consideration for human behaviour in Ireland has meant we continue to use lockdown as the only form of control.

    We are the 2nd longest country in lockdown across the globe I read recently, the other country is not a democracy.

    If all the people did the right thing all the time we wouldn’t have a requirement for a police force or associated justice system.

    I still don’t know why this is confusing people

    Posters here are blaming other people, when do they realise the virus is to blame?


  • #8350
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why didn't they spend 2020 creating 500-1,000 new ICU beds and training staff / re-training other healthcare staff, accordingly?

    Because that would take ingenuity and proactive thinking, neither of which our Government had a single gram of.


  • #8351
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Unless the Government is seen to do its bit the people will give up one by one
    Contact tracing not up to scratch , people walzing into the country with no restrictions , ICU beds barely increased , vaccines too slow , no acknowledgement of a growing mental health problem , no acknowledgement of people struggling financially and no acknowledgement that frustration is mounting to a point of no return .

    I know personally of one person who flew on business from Canada to UK . Then flew into Dublin and was not stopped or asked or tested . That was last week while we couldnt get out to a beach 10 kms away . And he surely wasn’t the only one coming in


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  • #8352
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Ideally yes. Because it worked very well in other countries, see: UAE

    That's not sarcasm btw, it really drove the numbers down there

    But the Guards can't police even the Luas. I've zero faith they could police a curfew

    Curfew won’t work in summer when people can still congregate


  • #8353
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    People . I'm sure smart people , still don't realise that schools are linked to household outbreaks and community transmission

    Head in the sand stuff


  • #8354
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Unless the Government is seen to do its bit the people will give up one by one
    Contact tracing not up to scratch , people walzing into the country with no restrictions , ICU beds barely increased , vaccines too slow , no acknowledgement of a growing mental health problem , no acknowledgement of people struggling financially and no acknowledgement that frustration is mounting to a point of no return .

    I know personally of one person who flew on business from Canada to UK . Then flew into Dublin and was not stopped or asked or tested . That was last week while we couldnt get out to a beach 10 kms away . And he surely wasn’t the only one coming in

    They have failed in every possible way and it's the public who are repeatedly blamed for getting tired of perpetual lockdowns when the Government couldn't be doing less on their side.


  • #8355
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    It's weird that even with vaccines this year feels much more bleak than last year did.


  • #8356
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    11521323 wrote: »
    You're not even making sense when you post, I can't form a rebuttal to something that has no logic or reason.

    You get appropriate answers to your posts..

    Mentioning the logic...right.
    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • #8357
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    The lack of consideration for human behaviour in Ireland has meant we continue to use lockdown as the only form of control.

    We are the 2nd longest country in lockdown across the globe I read recently, the other country is not a democracy.

    If all the people did the right thing all the time we wouldn’t have a requirement for a police force or associated justice system.

    I still don’t know why this is confusing people

    Posters here are blaming other people, when do they realise the virus is to blame?

    And who is it that is spreading the virus?

    There is plenty of blame to go round, but people not adhering to restrictions absolutely deserve blame.


  • #8358
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    marno21 wrote: »
    If schools are responsible there would be a rise nationally. The rise is only in certain counties.


    Like in Dublin? Where there's a hell of a lot more schools than anywhere else?

    The mental gymnastics people are doing to defend the schools is hilarious


  • #8359
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Ideally yes. Because it worked very well in other countries, see: UAE

    That's not sarcasm btw, it really drove the numbers down there

    But the Guards can't police even the Luas. I've zero faith they could police a curfew

    We got to really low numbers here last summer without a curfew.

    If somebody told people that there is a curfew at 8pm then their gathering would start at 11am and finish at 7pm, and so on.

    The shops would be far busier during shortened opening hours = higher risk.


  • #8360
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Jeeze, easy knowing you haven't been working in a hospital for the past three months or haven't had treatment halted. I'd love to see how you would have coped.

    Unbelievable attitude.

    I'm not talking about me . I'm talking about the general public . You keep saying it's because lack of adherence to lockdown

    I agree

    But you think the answer is more lockdowns that won't be adhered to


  • #8361
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Glenomra wrote: »
    In Clare and I know through extended family members of a number of Cheltenham pub gatherings last week, on average one for every 2 parishes. Also, know of many young people who have moved temporarily to apartments to socialize with friends. Parents happy as the domestic pressure was rising in many instances. Quite simply many people just ignore the restrictions and I personally don't blame them. As one neighbour said to me 'life is for living'.

    And we still have one of the lowest case numbers in the country. Not sure about the pub openings, heard of none around my area. Lads buying kegs and having 4 or 5 over, yes we are doing a lot of that.


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  • #8362
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    Benimar wrote: »
    And who is it that is spreading the virus?

    There is plenty of blame to go round, but people not adhering to restrictions absolutely deserve blame.

    People can't adhere to a lockdown indefinitely after 12 months of it already. That's a reality that needs to be accepted unfortunately.


  • #8363
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    People . I'm sure smart people , still don't realise that schools are linked to household outbreaks and community transmission

    Head in the sand stuff

    No, everyone knows this. It’s like the masks are dangerous nonsense we had to endure this time last year. The people spouting that nonsense know it’s not true.


  • #8364
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Benimar wrote: »
    And who is it that is spreading the virus?

    There is plenty of blame to go round, but people not adhering to restrictions absolutely deserve blame.

    Those pesky kids are likely to blame.

    Why they can’t follow the rules is beyond me


  • #8365
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Jeeze, easy knowing you haven't been working in a hospital for the past three months or haven't had treatment halted. I'd love to see how you would have coped.

    Unbelievable attitude.

    It's shocking, they had to stop dancing on the roof for a month, the poor sods.


  • #8366
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,400 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    People have stopped listening because there isn’t any sign of when this ends. No sign of the goal we need to get to other than a magical mysterious vaccine number.

    There won’t be buy in again on a large scale without any sense of a end point.

    Why would there be?

    Have you asked the virus when it plans on leaving the country?

    Everyone is tired of this - a year down the line - but the end IS IN SIGHT - nobody is quiet sure when though and some of the inaction of the state in some aspects of how this has been managed is not helping people.


  • #8367
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I see Ew*n McK*nna is trying to sow doubt in how the media reports court proceedings now.

    Dangerous pr!ck. Gaslighting the idiots that back him into thinking names and addresses being reported on is not normal. How can he, as a journalist, have never read a court report in his life?

    Simple answer, he has. He's not stupid. He knows full well what he's doing here.


  • #8368
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Those pesky kids are likely to blame.

    Why they can’t follow the rules is beyond me

    Plenty of young and older adults can’t seem to follow basic rules either Fintan.


  • #8369
    Acosta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Acosta


    The existing rules are not being policed properly.

    We have a situation were Guards are operating check points every single day since just after Christmas. They generally operate from 7am to around 9pm at night. But instead of the Guards that are operating these check points moving them around between 4 or 5 different locations in that general area during the day, they stay in the same position.

    Everyone knows where they are, that they don't move and they are easy to avoid. There has also been less of them during this the worst of the 3 lockdowns regarding case numbers and deaths.

    I live in Cork. I could drive from the Waterford border to Mizen Head and not meet one checkpoint, because I know where they are and how to avoid.

    If something if worth putting so much resources in why not do the bloody thing properly.


  • #8370
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    kippy wrote: »
    Have you asked the virus when it plans on leaving the country?

    The virus shouldn't have to leave in order for us to live with it, that's the whole ****ing point of "living with Covid"


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  • #8371
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Benimar wrote: »
    And who is it that is spreading the virus?

    There is plenty of blame to go round, but people not adhering to restrictions absolutely deserve blame.

    Why are they no adhering to the restrictions, I don't remember a referendum on any of them.

    I see an unelected group deciding on an our way or no way policy.


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