Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

21-03-2021 07:41PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

You might share what planet you are living on, with most.

People not following current restrictions, the answer is to impose more restrictions and that will somehow win them over?

I literally feel like I'm talking to another species sometimes.

Jinglejangle69 · 21-03-2021 07:41PM

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Yes, but cancel the year entirely. Give all pupils a proper run at this year again. Not expected them to get by with various inefficiencies of distance schooling, which is very inequitable.

How can you be sure if they cancel schools now come September they won't have to shut them again?

Natterjack from Kerry · 21-03-2021 07:42PM

hmmm wrote: »

The problem with things like reducing the 5km limit is that this only affects the compliant, who aren't the problem.

While there is an in justice in that, and I agree its a negative, from a virus suppression viewpoint, it is immaterial. Those complying will contribute to reducing the spread. Which is the bottom line.

covidrelease · 21-03-2021 07:42PM

shinzon wrote: »

Ive resigned myself to the fact that until the jabs in the arm ill be in lockdown, we could be back to fairly normal by now except the selfish pricks and morons of this country cant follow some simple rules because reasons that really escape me and then blame everyone else and claims lockdowns dont work when it goes tits up.

Shin

At this stage lockdown is a personal choice. An ever increasing number of people are done with it.

Corholio · 21-03-2021 07:42PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

no but a hybrid approach to schooling should certainly have been planned for by now, sending all students back into small classrooms with no ventilation is only going to end one bloody way and anyone with half an ounce of cop on can see it.

Some schools have incredible ventilation though, the ones in Cork, Kerry, Kilkenny, Mayo, Clare, Cavan, Wicklow, Leitrim, Sligo etc etc are actually all out in an open field with huge air sucking pumps hovering over every child. The likes of Dublin and Donegal must be teaching in airtight caves underground. It's unlikely to be anything else right?

oceanman · 21-03-2021 07:42PM

They are going to have to shut the schools again...like it or not.

shinzon · 21-03-2021 07:43PM

11521323 wrote: »

You and every other fanatic on here who rabble on about "not being able to follow simple instructions" have a twisted view of reality that fails to take into account human nature.

Oh dear ****ing christ in ****ing heaven, human ****ing nature are you actually having a laugh

I cant take the bull**** in this thread anymore **** me

Shin

TheBetsy · 21-03-2021 07:43PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Who else is to blame? It's the great Irish public that's spreading the disease because they're in-****ing-capable of following simple instructions.

But no, it's always government, or some other institutions that's to blame

It's not so simple to be expected to be locked up for months on end as if we are lab rats in some grand experiment with no end in sight, you'd swear this is the black death we're dealing with here . We're not all a bunch of subservient docile cucks

21-03-2021 07:43PM

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

While there is an in justice in that, and I agree its a negative, from a virus suppression viewpoint, it is immaterial. Those complying will contribute to reducing the spread. Which is the bottom line.

Well no, it's not immaterial. Restrictions don't work unless the public agree to them which they're not currently. That's the end of it.

Sweet.Science · 21-03-2021 07:43PM

11521323 wrote: »

People not following current restrictions, the answer is to impose more restrictions and that will somehow win them over?

I literally feel like I'm talking to another species sometimes.

Definition of insanity .

21-03-2021 07:43PM

shinzon wrote: »

Oh dear ****ing christ in ****ing heaven, human ****ing nature are you actually having a laugh

I cant take the bull**** in this thread anymore **** me

Shin

Off you go. Goodbye.

Locotastic · 21-03-2021 07:44PM

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

No. The people are to blame. If the patient refuses to take their medicine, they cannot blame the doctor if they die.

What if the patient isn't sick at all?

JayReale · 21-03-2021 07:44PM

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Yes, but cancel the year entirely. Give all pupils a proper run at this year again. Not expected them to get by with various inefficiencies of distance schooling, which is very inequitable.

Genius... So they all repeat the year they were supposed to have done this year? And what happens to the incoming class of Junior Infants?! Do they just sit at home seeing as the incumbent Junior Infant class will be repeating?

xhomelezz · 21-03-2021 07:45PM

11521323 wrote: »

People not following current restrictions, the answer is to impose more restrictions and that will somehow win them over?

I literally feel like I'm talking to another species sometimes.

On what planet?

Restrictions are being imposed when certain amount of population are not able to follow basics.

Are you following them or not?

PowerToWait · 21-03-2021 07:45PM

thenightman wrote: »

Gov have themselves to blame.

Problem is where else can they go now?

This is a problem for everyone in Irish society. This idea that it’s the government’s problem, they have to sort it out, is so puerile as to be almost unbelievable.

A lot of people need to grow the hell up.

21-03-2021 07:45PM

Locotastic wrote: »

What if the patient isn't sick at all?

If the patient isn't taking their medicine, the answer must be to prescribe twice as much medicine, that'll do it.

How some people arrive at that conclusion is baffling.

MrMusician18 · 21-03-2021 07:45PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Lockdown 3 has been a failure
Extending it again won’t make this any better.

People are sick of it, and rightly so!

There isn’t any plan from the government and ‘sure lockdown’ isn’t the answer anymore

I agree, lockdown 3 is failing, but it's more interesting to discuss why it's failing. And it's quite obvious as to why that is the case - lockdown measures are effective when they're adhered to, but a large proportion of people have stopped listening and worse, adhering.

So we have a curious case of people angry at government for continued restrictions and rising cases, yet at the same time exhibiting personal behaviour that ensures the continued spread and continuance of the restrictions. There is no link in the mind between individuals behaviour and the perpetuation of the larger problem. Or if there is, people don't care.

bennyl10 · 21-03-2021 07:46PM

shinzon wrote: »

Oh dear ****ing christ in ****ing heaven, human ****ing nature are you actually having a laugh

I cant take the bull**** in this thread anymore **** me

Shin

Byeeeee ðŸ‘‹

It’s clear people are sick of this restrictions. Not allowing any leeway in April will just lead to the majority saying “f this” and all the fines in the world won’t help at that stage

21-03-2021 07:46PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

On what planet?

Restrictions are being imposed when certain amount of population are not able to follow basics.

Are you following them or not?

No I'm not and neither is literally anyone I know.

covidrelease · 21-03-2021 07:47PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

If you think the instructions we have at present are far from simple then I think it proves his point unfortunately.

The instructions are retarded.

Close construction, but people have bills and need money, so they do nixers in houses instead, which is higher risk.

Lockdown is done, its failed, no pretending otherwise will change that.

shinzon · 21-03-2021 07:47PM

covidrelease wrote: »

An ever increasing number of people

Apt quote that, because that is exactly whats going to happen if people just go feck that and do what they want and well be back up in the thousands again.

Shin

21-03-2021 07:48PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I agree, lockdown 3 is failing, but it's more interesting to discuss why it's failing. And it's quite obvious as to why that is the case - lockdown measures are effective when they're adhered to, but a large proportion of people have stopped listening and worse, adhering.

So we have a curious case of people angry at government for continued restrictions and rising cases, yet at the same time exhibiting personal behaviour that ensures the continued spread and continuance of the restrictions. There is no link in the mind between individuals behaviour and the perpetuation of the larger problem. Or if there is, people don't care.

People only have a certain amount of philanthropy in them before that becomes secondary to their own wellbeing and livelyhood. That's all it is. We don't have an endless supply of humanitarian good-will.

bennyl10 · 21-03-2021 07:48PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I agree, lockdown 3 is failing, but it's more interesting to discuss why it's failing. And it's quite obvious as to why that is the case - lockdown measures are effective when they're adhered to, but a large proportion of people have stopped listening and worse, adhering.

So we have a curious case of people angry at government for continued restrictions and rising cases, yet at the same time exhibiting personal behaviour that ensures the continued spread and continuance of the restrictions. There is no link in the mind between individuals behaviour and the perpetuation of the larger problem. Or if there is, people don't care.

People have stopped listening because there isn’t any sign of when this ends. No sign of the goal we need to get to other than a magical mysterious vaccine number.

There won’t be buy in again on a large scale without any sense of a end point.

Why would there be?

21-03-2021 07:49PM

shinzon wrote: »

Apt quote that, because that is exactly whats going to happen if people just go feck that and do what they want and well be back up in the thousands again.

Shin

Thought you were gone?

xhomelezz · 21-03-2021 07:49PM

11521323 wrote: »

No I'm not and neither is literally anyone I know.

As I thought, different planet. But still don't know which one.

21-03-2021 07:50PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

As I thought, different planet. But still don't know which one.

Getting angry because people won't adhere to these endless restrictions won't do anything but keep at it.

Deeper Blue · 21-03-2021 07:50PM

Time for the government to step up

What they're doing simply isn't working

We need clear communication from them as to what the plan is

It's obvious that they're losing the people

Natterjack from Kerry · 21-03-2021 07:50PM

11521323 wrote: »

People not following current restrictions, the answer is to impose more restrictions and that will somehow win them over?

I literally feel like I'm talking to another species sometimes.

I know the feeling.

Of course those ignoring the restrictions will ignore stronger ones too (if not punished more harshly, which is easily done). Forget winning them over. They are already proven to be in the antisocial selfish grouping of society.
The benefit of stronger restrictions is that those who are compliant, the more informed and responsible of society, will still comply. And so make enough of a difference to improve the situation of all. Even the antisocial.

Natterjack from Kerry · 21-03-2021 07:51PM

JayReale wrote: »

Genius... So they all repeat the year they were supposed to have done this year? And what happens to the incoming class of Junior Infants?! Do they just sit at home seeing as the incumbent Junior Infant class will be repeating?

Thank you.
Precisely.

21-03-2021 07:52PM

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

I know the feeling.

Of course those ignoring the restrictions will ignore stronger ones too (if not punished more harshly, which is easily done). Forget winning them over. They are already proven to be in the antisocial selfish grouping of society.
The benefit of stronger restrictions is that those who are compliant, the more informed and responsible of society, will still comply. And so make enough of a difference to improve the situation of all. Even the antisocial.

You're forgetting that more and more people are going to adhere less the longer they go on. If you don't inspire hope then you can't expect anything from your population.

You literally have ignored basic emotional understanding of humans.

Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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