Law Firm Milkrounds 20/21

Fe1forthefun · 19-03-2021 11:56PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

Same thing happened to me! Partners mentioned my LC results too even though I don't have an amazing LC (low 500). I suppose they're very traditional having sat the exams themselves so they unduly focus on LC instead of really important things like background and experience.

So weird. That happened to me. I got 580 and they were praising me for it to no end - and then I didn't get a second interview. I think I didn't put myself forward enough in the interview but it was all very confusing.

Fe1forthefun · 20-03-2021 12:00AM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

Same thing happened to me! Partners mentioned my LC results too even though I don't have an amazing LC (low 500). I suppose they're very traditional having sat the exams themselves so they unduly focus on LC instead of really important things like background and experience.

So weird. That happened to me. I got 580 and they were praising me for it to no end - and then I didn't get a second interview. I think I didn't put myself forward enough in the interview but it was all very confusing.

Lallers96 · 20-03-2021 11:16AM

God I don't know what bubble ye live in where 500+ points isn't immensely impressive

Law1234 · 20-03-2021 12:55PM

Do firms ask for transcripts of Leaving Cert and College results prior to interviews?

biglawhead420 · 20-03-2021 01:33PM

No! Well not every firm anyway.

And I know of someone who 'mistakenly' put themselves down as 555 instead of 505.

FE1Hopefully1 · 20-03-2021 01:33PM

Law1234 wrote: »

Do firms ask for transcripts of Leaving Cert and College results prior to interviews?

i've had interviews with a few medium firms and they have never asked to see any transcripts - not sure about the big ones but i never heard of anyone having to show their transcripts.

Diamond_Hands · 20-03-2021 01:51PM

Law1234 wrote: »

Do firms ask for transcripts of Leaving Cert and College results prior to interviews?

No but you shouldn't lie about it. Some ask for after you get the offer.

jus_me · 20-03-2021 01:59PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

No but you shouldn't lie about it. Some ask for after you get the offer.

Out of interest what firms actually ask for transcripts for leaving cert/college I’m guessing the bigger firms?

keeponapplying · 20-03-2021 04:59PM

lnmbk wrote: »

Has anyone who had a video interview from DAC Beachcroft heard back yet? Should I contact them to follow up?

Honestly, not sure if a follow up makes any difference. By all means, go ahead and let me know if they do get back to you, but once I corrected the 'recuitment' email address they originally gave me and sent two follow-ups to the correct address, I didn't hear back anyways.

biglawhead420 · 20-03-2021 05:14PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

God I don't know what bubble ye live in where 500+ points isn't immensely impressive

Agreed!

The only thing is nearly all 600 plus law students at Trinity, UCD and UCC students have 520 LC up.

FE1Hopefully1 · 20-03-2021 06:24PM

biglawhead420 wrote: »

Agreed!

The only thing is nearly all 600 plus law students at Trinity, UCD and UCC students have 520 LC up.

True the majority would have over 500 but there are spaces for Hear and Dare students on reduced points and spaces for those coming in through a different route.

It is annoying how the leaving cert can follow you through to looking for grad jobs unfortunately

Diamond_Hands · 20-03-2021 06:38PM

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

True the majority would have over 500 but there are spaces for Hear and Dare students on reduced points and spaces for those coming in through a different route.

It is annoying how the leaving cert can follow you through to looking for grad jobs unfortunately

I wouldn't worry too much about the LC really. If you have very good college grades it more than makes up for an average LC.

FE1Hopefully1 · 20-03-2021 06:41PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

I wouldn't worry too much about the LC really. If you have very good college grades it more than makes up for an average LC.

Oh yeah no I’m fine I have my job haha just saying it in the context of good grades doesn’t always mean good worker !!

Diamond_Hands · 20-03-2021 06:45PM

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

Oh yeah no I’m fine I have my job haha just saying it in the context of good grades doesn’t always mean good worker !!

Think it has a lot to do with how competitive the legal sector is nowadays. Literally a 1000 plus candidates vying for a few dozen spots at a firm and its only going to get harder over time! Although I feel much worse for those going into the barrister profession it's even worse there.

Diamond_Hands · 21-03-2021 11:48AM

"Solicitors and barristers would require Irish to qualify under proposed law

Irish language ability would be required for qualification as a solicitor or barrister or appointment to the Supreme Court under legislative amendments proposed by an Oireachtas committee chairperson.

Under his amendments, the requirement for Irish would be reintroduced for solicitors and barristers qualifying after 2025 and would not apply for those coming to the State with legal qualifications from abroad."

https://www.irishlegal.com/article/solicitors-and-barristers-would-require-irish-to-qualify-under-proposed-law

NewFe1 · 21-03-2021 11:55AM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

"Solicitors and barristers would require Irish to qualify under proposed law

Irish language ability would be required for qualification as a solicitor or barrister or appointment to the Supreme Court under legislative amendments proposed by an Oireachtas committee chairperson.

Under his amendments, the requirement for Irish would be reintroduced for solicitors and barristers qualifying after 2025 and would not apply for those coming to the State with legal qualifications from abroad."

https://www.irishlegal.com/article/solicitors-and-barristers-would-require-irish-to-qualify-under-proposed-law

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Diamond_Hands · 21-03-2021 11:57AM

How many of you guys could pass a test in Irish lol

AA247 · 21-03-2021 02:45PM

I wouldn’t have a notion of it! I did pass Irish for LC and I would probably fail it if I sat it again now.

That proposed law is ridiculous, but even if it were to be brought it, absurd to apply it to those qualifying from 2025 which would be most of us here. You would need far more advanced notice of this requirement.

FE1new · 21-03-2021 03:11PM

Am I wrong or is that the guy that was done for printing charges? His office used 50k in cartridges for 1 year?

FE1Hopefully1 · 21-03-2021 03:22PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

"Solicitors and barristers would require Irish to qualify under proposed law

Irish language ability would be required for qualification as a solicitor or barrister or appointment to the Supreme Court under legislative amendments proposed by an Oireachtas committee chairperson.

Under his amendments, the requirement for Irish would be reintroduced for solicitors and barristers qualifying after 2025 and would not apply for those coming to the State with legal qualifications from abroad."

https://www.irishlegal.com/article/solicitors-and-barristers-would-require-irish-to-qualify-under-proposed-law

Saw that a while back !! Hopefully I will be qualified by then haha I’m not the best at Irish at all

FE1Hopefully1 · 21-03-2021 03:23PM

AA247 wrote: »

I wouldn’t have a notion of it! I did pass Irish for LC and I would probably fail it if I sat it again now.

That proposed law is ridiculous, but even if it were to be brought it, absurd to apply it to those qualifying from 2025 which would be most of us here. You would need far more advanced notice of this requirement.

I mean technically they’re giving 4 years notice haha how much more notice should they give

Also might not even happen so I wouldn’t put too much thought into it

Diamond_Hands · 21-03-2021 03:30PM

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

I mean technically they’re giving 4 years notice haha how much more notice should they give

Also might not even happen so I wouldn’t put too much thought into it

There shouldn't be any notice at all because it should never be re-introduced anyways. There's a reason why it was scrapped back in 2008. There's no point subjecting trainees to language requirements when the vast majority of them - especially those practicing in Dublin - will never interact with a client that can only speak Irish but not English.

FE1Hopefully1 · 21-03-2021 03:34PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

There shouldn't be any notice at all because it should never be re-introduced anyways. There's a reason why it was scrapped back in 2008. There's no point subjecting trainees to language requirements when the vast majority of them - especially those practicing in Dublin - will never interact with a client that can only speak Irish but not English.

Oh yeah I definitely don’t think it should be mandatory at all I think it should be a choice

NewFe1 · 21-03-2021 03:45PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

How many of you guys could pass a test in Irish lol

I'm fluent. Would love if everyone did have a degree of ability to speak the language but also appreciate the proposed requirement is completely unfair.

FE1Hopefully1 · 21-03-2021 03:57PM

NewFe1 wrote: »

I'm fluent. Would love if everyone did have a degree of ability to speak the language but also appreciate the proposed requirement is completely unfair.

I would love if Irish people could actually speak Irish but on school we’re just not thought how to even after 12 years of doing it haha

Lallers96 · 21-03-2021 06:12PM

Ah god I hate Irish, it has no value as a solicitor or barrister.

Lallers96 · 21-03-2021 06:20PM

Ah it's only a proposal by a SF TD...won't be voting for them now lol

NewFe1 · 21-03-2021 06:26PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

Ah god I hate Irish, it has no value as a solicitor or barrister.

You'd be surprised. I was told by a partner to emphasize the fact that I'm fluent in Irish. It can be really helpful when the client wants to communicate through Irish, however rare that may be.

Diamond_Hands · 21-03-2021 06:27PM

Perhaps an expert on Oireachtas legislative procedures can chime in about how likely that something like this will pass before I set up a Duolingo account lol

Diamond_Hands · 21-03-2021 06:28PM

NewFe1 wrote: »

You'd be surprised. I was told by a partner to emphasize the fact that I'm fluent in Irish. It can be really helpful when the client wants to communicate through Irish, however rare that may be.

Think being fluent in French or another European language will be more helpful than Irish if you're practicing at a Dublin commercial firm.

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