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When's calving starting 2021

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    #512
    Base price
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    @ Whelan - I was reading up on vit A deficiency and it can cause eye and other problems in calves. Apparently calves get vit A from colostrum so if the cow is deficient then the calf is automatically deficient.

    I haven't had a chance to check up the ingredients of the multimin injection that you gave the calve but check to see if it includes vitamins cause the name sounds like it only incudes minerals.
    Maybe Greysides or one of the other Vets will give an opinion.


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    #513
    Limestone Cowboy
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    New one for me, neighbour called that he had a calf coming backwards and only 1 leg coming. Got him straightened up and after a battle this is what appeared out. No bone on the top of the skull and front legs reversed.


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    #514
    charolais0153
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    New one for me, neighbour called that he had a calf coming backwards and only 1 leg coming. Got him straightened up and after a battle this is what appeared out. No bone on the top of the skull and front legs reversed.

    Good job he wasn't alive, be awful for him


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    #515
    endainoz
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    Another one with lovely colours from yesterday, pity about the pair of balls on him!


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    #516
    whelan2
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    Base price wrote: »
    @ Whelan - I was reading up on vit A deficiency and it can cause eye and other problems in calves. Apparently calves get vit A from colostrum so if the cow is deficient then the calf is automatically deficient.

    I haven't had a chance to check up the ingredients of the multimin injection that you gave the calve but check to see if it includes vitamins cause the name sounds like it only incudes minerals.
    Maybe Greysides or one of the other Vets will give an opinion.

    Got vet out. Calf has a temperature. Lungs ok. Injected her in the eye. Slight scour. Keep up the effydral. She gave her marbocyl and flunixin


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    #517
    Hard Knocks
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Got vet out. Calf has a temperature. Lungs ok. Injected her in the eye. Slight scour. Keep up the effydral. She gave her marbocyl and flunixin

    Be careful there’s allot of Crypto about


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    #518
    whelan2
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Be careful there’s allot of Crypto about

    Ye she mentioned that too. She's not dehydrated and piddled 3 times while vet was there. The effydral will help there too


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    #519
    endainoz
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Be careful there’s allot of Crypto about

    Heard that from a few people, luckily the weather is decent enough to let animals out.


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    #520
    patsy_mccabe
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    New one for me, neighbour called that he had a calf coming backwards and only 1 leg coming. Got him straightened up and after a battle this is what appeared out. No bone on the top of the skull and front legs reversed.

    I wonder what caused that? In a way, you were lucky he came backwards. You would have being trying to turn him if you saw the front legs upside down.

    I think nature throws strange things every now and then. If its beneficial for survival, then that mutation carries on in the species. Longer legs being able to reach higher branches etc.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #521
    SuperTortoise
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    And we're off, first one this evening, calved herself, gave a small bit of help to suck but she would have managed fine without, grand heifer calf.


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    #522
    squinn2912
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    Lost a huge lim bull calf this morning. Just got to her too late. I was sure she wouldn’t calve until at least tonight. Very disappointed with myself if I’d been a bit earlier I think we’d have saved him and he’d be a super calf.


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    #523
    RD10
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    Have cow here that keeps laying flat out on her side as if trying to relieve pain. Started it day or two before she calved (knew myself it wasnt calving pains - i checked her and vet checked her)
    she has since calved a week and a half is back doing same again the past few days. Shes eating and seems ok when up and about but once she sits down you'll see her laying down flat on her side.
    Had vet out twice - before and after she calved (she induced cow) and treated cow for different things on both occasions but i'd be interested to hear your opinions on what it might be or if anyone has seen this before.
    I just dont like the way she keeps going on the way she is.
    Shewas treated for colic and calcium deficiency.


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    #524
    whelan2
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    How are her feet?


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    RD10
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    How are her feet?

    Feet are fine but did notice twice when she seemed to be in more pain with this she'd go mad stiff and lame on her feet and then boom back to normal again. Shes outside now - just keeping an eye on her


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    #526
    grassroot1
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    New one for me, neighbour called that he had a calf coming backwards and only 1 leg coming. Got him straightened up and after a battle this is what appeared out. No bone on the top of the skull and front legs reversed.

    Schmallenberg?


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    #527
    grassroot1
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    RD10 wrote: »
    Have cow here that keeps laying flat out on her side as if trying to relieve pain. Started it day or two before she calved (knew myself it wasnt calving pains - i checked her and vet checked her)
    she has since calved a week and a half is back doing same again the past few days. Shes eating and seems ok when up and about but once she sits down you'll see her laying down flat on her side.
    Had vet out twice - before and after she calved (she induced cow) and treated cow for different things on both occasions but i'd be interested to hear your opinions on what it might be or if anyone has seen this before.
    I just dont like the way she keeps going on the way she is.
    Shewas treated for colic and calcium deficiency.

    has she ingested wire?


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    #528
    greysides
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    RD10 wrote: »
    Have cow here that keeps laying flat out on her side as if trying to relieve pain. Started it day or two before she calved (knew myself it wasnt calving pains - i checked her and vet checked her)
    she has since calved a week and a half is back doing same again the past few days. Shes eating and seems ok when up and about but once she sits down you'll see her laying down flat on her side.
    Had vet out twice - before and after she calved (she induced cow) and treated cow for different things on both occasions but i'd be interested to hear your opinions on what it might be or if anyone has seen this before.
    I just dont like the way she keeps going on the way she is.
    Shewas treated for colic and calcium deficiency.



    Observe her urinating.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

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    #529
    tanko
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    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Schmallenberg?

    There's seems to be very little mention of this anymore, is it still about or have cattle built up immunity to it?


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    #530
    Limestone Cowboy
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    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Schmallenberg?

    Where's our resident Vet.. He's staying very quiet :D


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    #531
    RD10
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    greysides wrote: »
    Observe her urinating.

    Cheers. What should i be looking out for?


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    #532
    RD10
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    grassroot1 wrote: »
    has she ingested wire?

    She's been inside fir the winter, so dont think any chance of it being that. No wire in pens.


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    #533
    tanko
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    RD10 wrote: »
    She's been inside fir the winter, so dont think any chance of it being that. No wire in pens.

    Bits of wire can end up in silage and get eaten, not saying it's happened here but it can happen.


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    #534
    High bike
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    RD10 wrote: »
    Cheers. What should i be looking out for?
    Blood in the urine maybe


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    #535
    Reggie.
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    Where's our resident Vet.. He's staying very quiet :D

    Ah hes off gathering up the hamsters. They must have gotten out again


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    #536
    whelan2
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Ah hes off gathering up the hamsters. They must have gotten out again

    Could be busy either? It is spring time , busy time.


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    #537
    greysides
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    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Schmallenberg?

    Possibly, but there has always been weird one-offs due to genetics so it's hard to know.

    Here's one I came across recently. It was the third in the herd in a short time. The hind hooves were over-extended and sticking out, and contaminated, so I cut them off before doing the caesarean. I'd be reasonably sure it was due to Schmallenberg. It presented as seen- all legs together. Note shortened low jaw.

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    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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    #538
    greysides
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    RD10 wrote: »
    Cheers. What should i be looking out for?

    Bad smell, discolouration (cloudy, bloody), frequency.

    It's just a guess but a kidney infection could be causing back pain.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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    #539
    squinn2912
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    Nice strong heifercalf there an hour ago. Cow did all in about an hour and ten mins later when I went down and moved all into a new pen I turned around and could hear my favourite sound, the lips smacking! Delighted


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    #540
    Limestone Cowboy
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    After losing a grand 3 week old calf, seen him yesterday at 3 o clock and he stood and stretched with no obvious ailments. Was sitting down with his head tucked in like he was sleeping when I found him this morning. Annoyed now that I must have missed something yesterday, dehorned him 3 days ago and maybe it brought on meningitis or something. Sickened either way anyway. Had a springer on her back as well this morning. Lucky to get her in time.


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    #541
    RD10
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    After losing a grand 3 week old calf, seen him yesterday at 3 o clock and he stood and stretched with no obvious ailments. Was sitting down with his head tucked in like he was sleeping when I found him this morning. Annoyed now that I must have missed something yesterday, dehorned him 3 days ago and maybe it brought on meningitis or something. Sickened either way anyway. Had a springer on her back as well this morning. Lucky to get her in time.

    Have a calf here that got a bad dose few weeks back with that cold weather and has been very off form past few days again.
    Got him stronger antibiotics/anti inflammatory again. Vet diagnosed him with that ol middle ear infection aswell.
    Had mentioned it perhaps leading to meningitis if not treated properly and let go on.
    Treating its mother for bad mastitis in one quarter at the same time. Come out this morning to discover she now has it in another quarter. Never a dull moment.
    Am finding this year has been non stop with different things going wrong.


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