COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

is_that_so · 18-03-2021 06:50PM

Monster249 wrote: »

Then pay a delivery company to deliver them? They don't have any problems with distribution that money can't fix and given the seemingly never-ending amount they're willing to borrow, that's not an excuse.

Deliveries are the easy bit, it's rebooking people in that will take time - 30K deferred this week. Should all be underway again by Monday.

titan18 · 18-03-2021 06:54PM

irishlad. wrote: »

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit?usp=sharing

Cohort 1 looks likes its nearly finished first doses.

Still a bit to go in cohort 2 yet, 240,000 was the total number quoted by Paul Reid today.

Cohort 2 is just ever expanding ay this stage. No chance there's 240k frontline healthcare workers.

Monster249 · 18-03-2021 06:54PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Okay you notify all 5000 people tonight so for their appointments in the morning

I'm sure the vast majority would be happy to get an appointment tomorrow?

Micky 32 · 18-03-2021 06:57PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

My parents 78/73 have got word for their vaccines. March 27th/April 10th.

Of course the dreaded “ subject to supply” was mentioned.

My parents got an update on this today. Both are being done together 26th March.

rm212 · 18-03-2021 06:58PM

Monster249 wrote: »

I'm sure the vast majority would be happy to get an appointment tomorrow?

Exactly, I’m one who had my appointment cancelled with under 24 hours notice last Monday, with only 48 hours given for that appointment itself.

I’d be over the moon to get an appointment tomorrow. The majority of people are supposed to be working from home etc anyway, with high risk people also supposed to be taking care to avoid gatherings, so not that many very high risk people should have plans that prevent them from taking an appointment tomorrow.

ACitizenErased · 18-03-2021 06:59PM

rm212 wrote: »

Exactly, I’m one who had my appointment cancelled with under 24 hours notice last Monday, with only 48 hours given for that appointment itself.

I’d be over the moon to get an appointment tomorrow. The majority of people are supposed to be working from home etc anyway, with high risk people also supposed to be taking care, so not that many very high risk people should have plans that prevent them from taking an appointment tomorrow.

You can't make that assumption though

Monster249 · 18-03-2021 07:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can't make that assumption though

Why would people not be happy about being protected earlier? The very last thing people would complain about would be getting vaccinated earlier than planned. Your point is not rational.

josip · 18-03-2021 07:03PM

titan18 wrote: »

Cohort 2 is just ever expanding ay this stage. No chance there's 240k frontline healthcare workers.

According to the HSE they employ more than 67,000 directly and a further 35,000 via agencies.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/hr/

Where are the other 138,000 coming from?
Or when the HSE say "more than 67,000" on their website, do they mean 205,000 ? (Technically not incorrect)

rm212 · 18-03-2021 07:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can't make that assumption though

Yes, I can. I’m not saying if you can’t make it tomorrow, you won’t get a vaccine... you’ll be rescheduled. But I’d imagine 2/3 of people will be able to make it, and that’s another couple of thousand vaccinated sooner rather than later.

Why not offer people the option of an appointment tomorrow if they want it? It makes no sense to not offer just because some can’t make it.

ACitizenErased · 18-03-2021 07:05PM

Monster249 wrote: »

Why would people not be happy about being protected earlier? The very last thing people would complain about would be getting vaccinated earlier than planned. Your point is not rational.

Who said they wouldn't be happy? You can't assume every single person is going to accept an appointment for tomorrow, thats such a bizarre thought whether they're happy or not. I'd be buzzing to get asked to go tomorrow, but I can't, I'm can't get out of work on weekdays.

titan18 · 18-03-2021 07:08PM

josip wrote: »

According to the HSE they employ more than 67,000 directly and a further 35,000 via agencies.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/hr/

Where are the other 138,000 coming from?
Or when the HSE say "more than 67,000" on their website, so they mean 205,000 ? (Technically not incorrect)

That would be everyone then. Not just frontline healthcare workers.

I don't see how we come anywhere close to having 5% of our population as frontline healthcare.

stephenjmcd · 18-03-2021 07:09PM

Update on AZ in Ireland due tomorrow.

NIAC & HPRA meet this evening appearently, then goes to CMO tomorrow who makes the recommendation

KrustyUCC · 18-03-2021 07:15PM

titan18 wrote: »

Cohort 2 is just ever expanding ay this stage. No chance there's 240k frontline healthcare workers.

Depends on what you call frontline

For instance one fella i know deals with occupational therapy

He's in and out of peoples house changing/updating equipment

Not direct HSE but is working with the HSE

He's got a jab until cohort 2 as have the others in his company

KrustyUCC · 18-03-2021 07:16PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Update on AZ in Ireland due tomorrow.

NIAC & HPRA meet this evening appearently, then goes to CMO tomorrow who makes the recommendation

Good to see the process moving along

No reason you couldn't rebook a lot people in for jabs on Sunday

2 days notice to patients and 2 days to get vaccines to their destinations

titan18 · 18-03-2021 07:18PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Depends on what you call frontline

For instance one fella i know deals with occupational therapy

He's in and out of peoples house changing/updating equipment

Not direct HSE but is working with the HSE

He's got a jab until cohort 2 as have the others in his company

Anyone who spends time with patients. If not, that's group 6 then, but really looks like they just pushed the healthcare workers not in direct patient contact into group 2 and then a bunch of others.

Louche Lad · 18-03-2021 07:23PM

Do you get a certificate or card or something to certify that you've had the vaccine?

(Apologies if this has been asked before. I've searched and can't find the answer.)

josip · 18-03-2021 07:26PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

Do you get a certificate or card or something to certify that you've had the vaccine?

(Apologies if this has been asked before. I've searched and can't find the answer.)

I've read that it's a QR code on your phone.

billyhead · 18-03-2021 07:27PM

Does anyone know how are the over 70s been contacted by their GP for a appointment. Is it a letter or text?

JTMan · 18-03-2021 07:32PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Update on AZ in Ireland due tomorrow.

NIAC & HPRA meet this evening appearently, then goes to CMO tomorrow who makes the recommendation

Can the CMO not make a decision tonight?

Meanwhile, other European countries have already acted and resumed vaccinations .... https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1372606047869865993

brickster69 · 18-03-2021 07:32PM

As European politicians have been busy playing games for 2 months scaring it's citizens and millions of doses sat idle in Fridges the third wave hits.

https://twitter.com/john003/status/1372586920572768261

CrabRevolution · 18-03-2021 07:33PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

Do you get a certificate or card or something to certify that you've had the vaccine?

(Apologies if this has been asked before. I've searched and can't find the answer.)

I got a little card, but I think it's more a record of the batches you got than a cert to use as proof of anything.

stephenjmcd · 18-03-2021 07:39PM

JTMan wrote: »

Can the CMO not make a decision tonight?

Meanwhile, other European countries have already acted and resumed vaccinations .... https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1372606047869865993

It's the same process for suspension as it is for restart. HPRA & NIAC meet, give recommendations to Glynn and he takes to government.

Process begins this evening with an update tomorrow

noserider · 18-03-2021 07:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

We run in weekly vaccine cycles. You can't just screw the other delivery schedules and throw AZ in there in the morning. Will have to wait till the start of the next cycle, which is Monday.

Don’t forget the tea break...

JTMan · 18-03-2021 07:47PM

More details of the US/Mexico/Canada AZ agreement have come out here, it is a "loan agreement" to return vaccines to the US at a later stage when these countries have surplus supply. Also the Biden administration have said "the administration has received requests for vaccine doses from other countries, but it doesn’t have any more commitments to other countries to announce at this point." Sounds like there are more announcements to come.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's the same process for suspension as it is for restart. HPRA & NIAC meet, give recommendations to Glynn and he takes to government.

Process begins this evening with an update tomorrow

Understood, I would of thought that it could occur quicker like it has in other countries or through the night if needed.

Cork2021 · 18-03-2021 07:49PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's the same process for suspension as it is for restart. HPRA & NIAC meet, give recommendations to Glynn and he takes to government.

Process begins this evening with an update tomorrow

Should they not have already met and dealt with both scenarios and give the either outcome to Glynn this evening and then to government tonight back jabbing tomorrow?

stephenjmcd · 18-03-2021 07:53PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Should they not have already met and dealt with both scenarios and give the either outcome to Glynn this evening and then to government tonight back jabbing tomorrow?

No because the EMA send through their recommendations and findings to memeber states and take it from there. Those that have announced their resuming won't have probably even read the recommendations yet

Here NIAC & HPRA will meet and review the EMA documents this evening, what's it in and go from there tonight & early morning.

It's not going to make much difference. Better to get it right once than have to make revisions again.

They'll have the final outcome here released tomorrow and probably kick off again at some point over the weekend.

noserider · 18-03-2021 07:58PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No because the EMA send through their recommendations and findings to memeber states and take it from there. Those that have announced their resuming won't have probably even read the recommendations yet

Here NIAC & HPRA will meet and review the EMA documents, what's it in and go from there.

It's not going to make much difference. Better to get it right once than have to make revisions again.

They'll have the final outcome here released tomorrow and probably kick off again at some point over the weekend.

We love our paper work in Ireland

brickster69 · 18-03-2021 08:00PM

French Prime Minister announces Paris and 16 regions to go straight into lock down for at least 4 weeks.

thebaz · 18-03-2021 08:01PM

noserider wrote: »

We love our paper work in Ireland

after a year of lockdown, surely we should expect some urgency on the matter .

ACitizenErased · 18-03-2021 08:11PM

Spain to resume AZ from next Wednesday, and people think we're 'slow' :rolleyes:

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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