Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

Renault 5 wrote: »

This is not the case

its getting to the stage that the general public dont know who is responsible.

its seems everyone and no one is.

Isn't that they way it always is.... even before Covid? Muddle management is a particular political skill designed to give avoidance options.

Another particular favourite political tactic of avoidance, is to set up independent monitor and regulation bodies for aspects that should actually be controlled directly by Government, so that there is a separate scapegoat available to take the flack when the excrement collides with the air circulation device.

How many times have we heard a politician say that they were acting on best expert advice - like the advice that told them not to originally link the two Luas lines, not to build the M50 with as many lanes as it then needed, that hedgerow and chickenwire was a suitable motorway safety separation barrier, not to put motorway service stations on the first motorways etc, etc, etc.

Even if a politician knows the advice is wrong, it is better to go with it than to take away the opportunity to distance yourself from it, when it does go wrong.

Deleted User wrote: »

EUROPEAN UPDATE

Europe is being convulsed by a third wave, which appears to be principally driven by the variant identified in Kent (B117).

Changes in cases over the past 2-weeks

ITALY - up 50% (with 54% being the UK variant)

FRANCE - up 1% (with 65.3% being the UK variant)

GERMANY - up 9% (with 46.1% being the UK variant)

NETHERLANDS - up 3%

SWEDEN - up 6%

ESTONIA - up 58%

POLAND - up 63%

AUSTRIA - up 63%

HUNGARY - up 108%

SERBIA - up 29%

GREECE - up 48%

The Iberian peninsula has, however, experienced a decline in cases over the past 2-weeks:

SPAIN - down 33%

PORTUGAL - down 49%

The UK has experienced a drop of a third in cases over the past 2-weeks.

Czech Republic has had to send some patients to Poland due to saturation of critical care capacity.

...and this is likely to get worse across the continent before it gets better.

Convulsed, really?

Cases across the WHO European region (55 countries) are up about 20% in the last month, no sign of increased deaths. Take a look for yourself.
https://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ead3c6475654481ca51c248d52ab9c61

titan18 wrote: »

Horrible numbers on the Sunday though.

626 positive swabs, 4.69% positivity on 13,349 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.9%.

There’s some backlog there!

john4321 wrote: »

Was just about to say how fantastic these figures were but then saw titan's post. Confused! I suppose as Gilesy says you have to take each day on its merits and today is a great day figures wise, especially the positivity. Not sure though if the cases figure will be so positive if they are including the Sunday swabs.

Close tp 4% positivity if both days are added. Testing numbers down tho. Hopefully a good sign. I get the feeling a back long had build up last week

Horrible Sunday numbers. We can expect an annoyingly large number this evening. On balance, we're no better or worse than we were last week.

Without more information it's impossible to know where these are coming from. There have been no updates to Test & Trace data in like two weeks.

GP referrals are still low and not increasing; so there's not a huge amount of community spread.

This tells us that these cases must be coming from mass testing or close contact testing. Latest data from the HPSC suggests that there may be an uptick in hospital outbreaks.

It's potentially being caused by the increase in movement with schools back, but if that were the case, wouldn't we expect to see GP referrals up?

You'd have to imagine we're looking at about 500 cases tonight considering the swabs were much higher than the cases announced yesterday.

seamus wrote: »

Horrible Sunday numbers. We can expect an annoyingly large number this evening. On balance, we're no better or worse than we were last week.

Without more information it's impossible to know where these are coming from. There have been no updates to Test & Trace data in like two weeks.

GP referrals are still low and not increasing; so there's not a huge amount of community spread.

This tells us that these cases must be coming from mass testing or close contact testing. Latest data from the HPSC suggests that there may be an uptick in hospital outbreaks.

It's potentially being caused by the increase in movement with schools back, but if that were the case, wouldn't we expect to see GP referrals up?

Yup if there was community spread and especially coming from schools you'd expect to see GP referrals going up not coming down as they are.

Of course mass testing wouldn't feed into referrals so there absolutely is some sort of mass testing going on, GP data just doesn't back and increase in community

seamus wrote: »

Horrible Sunday numbers. We can expect an annoyingly large number this evening. On balance, we're no better or worse than we were last week.

Without more information it's impossible to know where these are coming from. There have been no updates to Test & Trace data in like two weeks.

GP referrals are still low and not increasing; so there's not a huge amount of community spread.

This tells us that these cases must be coming from mass testing or close contact testing. Latest data from the HPSC suggests that there may be an uptick in hospital outbreaks.

It's potentially being caused by the increase in movement with schools back, but if that were the case, wouldn't we expect to see GP referrals up?

Guessing here but looking at the county by county breakdown over the last few days, big increases in Kildare/Westmeath/Offaly/Meath, seems like big work place outbreaks in meat plants or similar. Could be close contacting testing of these

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

They are probably one of those people that stand on top of you in a queue.

I have nothing to say on your comment but that is one brilliant username you have!

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I dont trust the GP data at all. Seems very adhoc

In the past its flagged up increase in GP activity whenever things have started to go wrong in advance of any increase in cases etc

Of course it's not going to be perfect depending on how many GPs respond daily but it gives a good indication & its all we really have