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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6032
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    France moving ICU patients from Paris

    What, that seems very sudden. I didn't think there was anywhere in West Europe at the moment with COVID related strain on their healthcare infrastructure.


  • #6033
    quokula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭quokula


    boardise wrote: »
    The 'variant' is nature's variant- it was simply discovered by UK scientists. No need to try to turn it into a quasi-racial slur.

    It's true that it's nature's virus, but it's also true that the UK's failure to lockdown adequately or control the virus in any way turned the country into a massive petri dish that allowed the virus ample opportunity to mutate.

    It's no coincidence that two of the most problematic variants in the world have come from the UK and Brazil, the two countries with the absolute worst handling of the pandemic of all major nations on earth.


  • #6034
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Exactly.

    Which is why low case numbers is not a result of lockdown

    Explain the cause of low case numbers then.


  • #6035
    UDAWINNER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    People are saying the Biden thing will be a waste of time... you never know though. The US vaccinated 4.6million people yesterday, thats staggering. Biden might say that because of Irish roots, we'll be given 100,000 doses. Small fry for the US, but thats a good chunk of our over 75s.

    Or put it this way, it'll get us to the top of the list of countries likely to get some leftovers from the US. Its certainly worth a shot.
    For a AZ vaccine that we don't use on that group


  • #6036
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,714 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Beasty wrote: »
    The "surge" on mainland Europe (as well as the US) is being put down to the UK variant spreading. We've already seen that effect

    What US surge? Cases are currently plateaued after weeks of steady decline. No surge as of yet.


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  • #6037
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    There is no doubt that the AstraZeneca vaccine has caused some deaths in the UK as per the weekly reports covering adverse reactions to approved COVID-19 vaccines published by the UK government.

    There 275 deaths reported as per the last page between 04/01/2021 and 28/02/2021:
    ...
    That seems to be moreso keeping track of things that happened the vaccinated cohort, as opposed to things that happened DUE to the vaccination. Or are you suggesting that the listed insect bites, car accident, falls, and electric shocks, for example, are due to covid?


  • #6038
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Numbers are great to be honest. A real rainbow after a long storm


  • #6039
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Numbers are great to be honest. A real rainbow after a long storm


  • #6040
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    The vaccination of HCW’s must be helping those figures significantly

    I hope you are right :) I know nothing is simple/black and white at the moment but main thing is hospital/ICU numbers keep coming down....Case numbers relatively speaking don’t matter that much - relatively speaking I say!


  • #6041
    Curse These Metal Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Video doing the rounds of The Homestead in Cabra giving a big **** you to all the decent people doing the right thing.

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeB2USFY/


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  • #6042
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »
    Video doing the rounds of The Homestead in Cabra giving a big **** you to all the decent people doing the right thing.

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeB2USFY/
    Six people, largely distanced, having a shot in an empty bar. They probably shouldn't be doing it but it's hardly outrageous. At least we now have people to blame this week if cases go up!


  • #6043
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    So what are you and he insinuating, that the vaccine is actually causing most of these deaths?

    If you read my post again you'll see I never said anything of the sort, and also pointed out that "he seems to be anti mask and anti vaccine too". Calm your outrage.
    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    He retweeted below too - that majority of covid deaths in Ireland are in the last 2 months. Does seem stark.
    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    So what exactly are you getting at with this bit?

    That's a difficult one. That the majority of covid deaths in ireland being in the last 2 months seems stark. That ok?


  • #6044
    Curse These Metal Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Six people, largely distanced, having a shot in an empty bar. They probably shouldn't be doing it but it's hardly outrageous. At least we now have people to blame this week if cases go up!

    They aren't even remotely distanced, they are literally rubbing shoulders. I'm sure they arrived for the single shot and quickly returned to following restrictions.


  • #6045
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »
    They aren't even remotely distanced, they are literally rubbing shoulders. I'm sure they arrived for the single shot and quickly returned to following restrictions.
    As I said, people we can blame this week.


  • #6046
    Curse These Metal Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    is_that_so wrote: »
    As I said, people we can blame this week.

    A good way to avoid being blamed for something is to not share it on social media and openly gloat. Hope the pub loses its licence.


  • #6047
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    To clarify. My post perhaps wasn't clear enough. I totally disagree with him. Thought that was clear enough when I said that he thinks that because there are no deaths today, there's no reason for lockdown. And that he is anti mask and anti vaccine too.

    I humbly beg the mob to forgive me :)

    It was clear enough you disagreed but why give him any credit by posting his complete nonsense in full?


  • #6048
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    It was clear enough you disagreed but why give him any credit by posting his complete nonsense in full?

    Never meant to post the full tweet (which wasn't from him but something he retweeted). I had meant to post just the reference to the figures this year. Agree that it provided unwarranted attention to the content!


  • #6049
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »
    A good way to avoid being blamed for something is to not share it on social media and openly gloat. Hope the pub loses its licence.

    6 people?? You'd be that close to people in Tesco these days!
    Plus they could all be in the same bubble or from the same family.

    I'm so over this shaming in on social media platforms! It worked a year ago, now its just tired. People are tired of living their lives in lockdown and that's why this kind of thing is happening. The Government have lost the people at this stage with no roadmap whatsoever of when we can get back to some kind of living.

    (if I was them I wouldn't have posted it on TikTok though)


  • #6050
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,808 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    There is no doubt that the AstraZeneca vaccine has caused some deaths in the UK as per the weekly reports covering adverse reactions to approved COVID-19 vaccines published by the UK government.

    There 275 deaths reported as per the last page between 04/01/2021 and 28/02/2021:

    The report is available here:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/968414/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

    More reports available here:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

    How many died in the unvaccinated group during that time? How many of those died of Covid?

    Paging through the first link, you'll see that some of the deaths were due to Covid, some due to gastric issues, a lot due to pneumonia which infamously targets the elderly and frail.

    I repeat, there's no reason to postpone administration of AZ. France and Germany aren't. You're falling victim to 'vaccine hesitancy' spurred on by the anti-vax hooligans.

    And, I'd gladly sign a release to enable the government to vaccinate me, if that would make it happen. Why not offer us that?


  • #6051
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Pisses me off when I hear of healthcare workers spreading **** about the vaccines! My granny came home scared out of her mind after her dentist warned her that she's at higher risk of spreading covid to all her dental patients now after getting vaccinated , because the vaccine entails having a 'little bit' of covid injected into you.
    And my granny believed it, Thought she'd just been up close and personal having an infectious person peering into her open gob. Yeh we spent a whole year distancing only to inject it into everybody. It's the vaccinated who are the real danger to society now!

    Seriously infuriating to see random people in medical environments abusing the status , the fact they work in a hospital doesn't necessarily mean they know anything more about covid or vaccines than the layman..clearly! Unfortunately that white coat allows them to say anything with authority about anything in a separate medical field and many will believe them to have more trustworthy views on it than the general public.


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  • #6052
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Six people, largely distanced, having a shot in an empty bar. They probably shouldn't be doing it but it's hardly outrageous. At least we now have people to blame this week if cases go up!

    yeah right - don't obviously lie, it makes you appear like a fool


  • #6053
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,808 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Pisses me off when I hear of healthcare workers spreading **** about the vaccines! My granny came home scared out of her mind after her dentist warned her that she's at higher risk of spreading covid to all her dental patients now after getting vaccinated , because the vaccine entails having a 'little bit' of covid injected into you.
    And my granny believed it, Thought she'd just been up close and personal having an infectious person peering into her open gob. Yeh we spent a whole year distancing only to inject it into everybody. It's the vaccinated who are the real danger to society now!

    Seriously infuriating to see random people in medical environments abusing the status , the fact they work in a hospital doesn't necessarily mean they know anything more about covid or vaccines than the layman..clearly! Unfortunately that white coat allows them to say anything with authority about anything in a separate medical field and many will believe them to have more trustworthy views on it than the general public.

    Report the dentist... .oh wait, this is Ireland. Probably no way to do that nor would anything happen.


  • #6054
    Curse These Metal Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    yeah right - don't obviously lie, it makes you appear like a fool

    They are probably one of those people that stand on top of you in a queue.


  • #6055
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    yeah right - don't obviously lie, it makes you appear like a fool
    Perception is in the eye of the beholder, you perceive something different. I bet your finely honed skills can spot a liar at 1000m!


  • #6056
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »
    They are probably one of those people that stand on top of you in a queue.
    Yeah, let the scattergun outrage go now man. We don't agree - that's life!


  • #6057
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Pisses me off when I hear of healthcare workers spreading **** about the vaccines! My granny came home scared out of her mind after her dentist warned her that she's at higher risk of spreading covid to all her dental patients now after getting vaccinated , because the vaccine entails having a 'little bit' of covid injected into you.
    And my granny believed it, Thought she'd just been up close and personal having an infectious person peering into her open gob. Yeh we spent a whole year distancing only to inject it into everybody. It's the vaccinated who are the real danger to society now!

    Seriously infuriating to see random people in medical environments abusing the status , the fact they work in a hospital doesn't necessarily mean they know anything more about covid or vaccines than the layman..clearly! Unfortunately that white coat allows them to say anything with authority about anything in a separate medical field and many will believe them to have more trustworthy views on it than the general public.

    Ahh here, you have to either report it or ring the dentist yourself and ask did your granny hear them right. That's unacceptable.


  • #6058
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Ahh here, you have to either report it or ring the dentist yourself and ask did your granny hear them right. That's unacceptable.

    Hopefully my granny just took her up wrong !


  • #6059
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Perception is in the eye of the beholder, you perceive something different. I bet your finely honed skills can spot a liar at 1000m!

    Perception, my arse. Nobody is talking about spotting liars, until you did just now.


  • #6060
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Tbf, it's also 6 people in the video. Who knows if there's more than that in the pub, as they clearly don't give a damn about the restrictions


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  • #6061
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    titan18 wrote: »
    Tbf, it's also 6 people in the video. Who knows if there's more than that in the pub, as they clearly don't give a damn about the restrictions

    Unless all the others decided to shut up and hide behind the camera while filming this, I'm going to say I'm pretty confident it's just them.


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