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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6002
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    Ivor the engineer tweeted today:

    "Zero people died with positive Pcr today - out of FIVE MILLION people in the country. But the CCP-Lockdown ransacking and wanton destruction of our society continues."

    While I do think that the lockdown is too strict, he seems to think that because there are no deaths today, there's no reason for lockdown. Simplistic. Seems to be anti mask and anti vaccine too.

    He retweeted below too - that majority of covid deaths in Ireland are in the last 2 months. Does seem stark.

    https://twitter.com/MConceptions/status/1370803867915579392

    The guy that posted that tweet is a moron. It's disgraceful and it has no place on this thread or anywhere for that matter. Shame on you for posting it.


  • #6003
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No, the UK left the European Union.

    The UK variant is no more English than the original virus has a Chinese nationality. These are needlessly racially charged comments, regardless of the country in question. For instance, there is no reason not to assume that the so-called Kent variant was seeded by a traveler from Greece.

    No, the UK didn't get a "good chunk of vaccines out of Europe", they organized contracts far earlier - and got those vaccines delivered. Arguing that the UK is trying to get vaccines out of the European Union is laughable; the EU, through its jungle of bureaucracy, simply could not organize it.

    In contrast, the EU failed spectacularly on the vaccine question - and looks to blame the UK in some kind of petulant outburst, unwilling to admit their outstanding failures.

    Yet the UK media has spent months being extremely nationalistic in respect to vaccines and using this as a means to their superiority post Brexit. And it is their nasty variant which is causing problems over Europe.


  • #6004
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital numbers at 8pm
    Total 355
    ICU 86

    Last Sunday
    Total 420
    ICU 103


  • #6005
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    There is no doubt that the AstraZeneca vaccine has caused some deaths in the UK as per the weekly reports covering adverse reactions to approved COVID-19 vaccines published by the UK government.

    There 275 deaths reported as per the last page between 04/01/2021 and 28/02/2021:

    The report is available here:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/968414/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

    More reports available here:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions


  • #6006
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm
    Total 355
    ICU 86

    Last Sunday
    Total 420
    ICU 103

    The admissions looks to be nearly identical as last weekend.
    Nice to see zero covid in the children's hospitals!

    Any reason why James always has a high amount of suspected cases?
    And I know suspected cases is nothing to worry about or a cause of concern.


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  • #6007
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,740 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Yet the UK media has spent months being extremely nationalistic in respect to vaccines and using this as a means to their superiority post Brexit. And it is their nasty variant which is causing problems over Europe.

    Its not 'their' nasty variant. Your post just demonstrates your ignorance on variant detection and the rest of your post suggest a certain bigoted agenda which has no merit.

    Wave two in Ireland was seeded with variants detected eg in Spain yet strangely people dont go on rants about that nasty variant.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #6008
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    There is no doubt that the AstraZeneca vaccine has caused some deaths in the UK

    That event B follows action A does not necessarily mean B was caused by A. B may have occurred for other reasons.


  • #6009
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm
    Total 355
    ICU 86

    Last Sunday
    Total 420
    ICU 103

    The vaccination of HCW’s must be helping those figures significantly


  • #6010
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Yet the UK media has spent months being extremely nationalistic in respect to vaccines and using this as a means to their superiority post Brexit. And it is their nasty variant which is causing problems over Europe.

    Please educate yourself on how variants are ‘named’


  • #6011
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Turtwig wrote: »
    That event B follows action A does not necessarily mean B was caused by A. B may have occurred for other reasons.

    Exactly.

    Which is why low case numbers is not a result of lockdown


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  • #6012
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Dumb question but worth asking I think. UK scientists today talking about inevitably of a 4th wave there next Autumn. Why is that? Is it non take up of vaccine by too high a cohort, lack of belief in long term effect of vaccine, concern over variants, non vaccination of u18s or what? Surely if you get to 80%+ vaccinated (and UK are on track I'd have thought) the thing pretty much dies away? What am I missing?


  • #6013
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Its not 'their' nasty variant. Your post just demonstrates your ignorance on variant detection and the rest of your post suggest a certain bigoted agenda which has no merit.

    Wave two in Ireland was seeded with variants detected eg in Spain yet strangely people dont go on rants about that nasty variant.

    The British behaviour in recent weeks on numerous fronts is at best nasty. And I am certainly not ignorant. If we knew about this variant earlier we would have changed behaviour sooner.


  • #6014
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Multipass wrote: »
    Please educate yourself on how variants are ‘named’

    No need to educate myself. Thank you.

    And glad to be in the company with someone as esteemed and brilliant as Angela Merkel https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/covid-19-angela-merkel-reportedly-cites-ireland-in-warning-to-party-1.4456350


  • #6015
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    There is no doubt that the AstraZeneca vaccine has caused some deaths in the UK as per the weekly reports covering adverse reactions to approved COVID-19 vaccines published by the UK government.

    There 275 deaths reported as per the last page between 04/01/2021 and 28/02/2021:

    The report is available here:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/968414/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

    More reports available here:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

    They should really have a column for the incidence rate of a certain side effect in the vaccinated group vs the population at large.
    If the Irish media got the Irish version, they would be reporting AZ gives you herpes lol.

    It's very interesting comparing those reports between AZ & Pfizer.
    Looks like AZ has more side effects than Pfizer, but it's been reported in countries that have given a second dose of Pfizer, that the second dose seems to cause more side effects. As the UK mainly have 1st doses done, I'd imagine over time there will be more side effects reported in the Pfizer reports.


  • #6016
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    France moving ICU patients from Paris
    France's government has said that it plans to evacuate around 100 Covid-19 patients from intensive care units in the Paris region this week, as hospitals struggle to keep up with a surge in cases.

    With the transfers, officials hope to avoid a new lockdown for the roughly 12 million people in and around the capital as they race to step up a vaccination drive that got off to a slow start.

    "By the end of this week, probably around 100 patients will have been evacuated from the Ile-de-France region" encompassing Paris, a government spokesman said.

    He added that later this week, two specially equipped trains will transfer "several dozens of patients to regions that today are under less strain" from the pandemic.

    Asked if Paris would avoid a new lockdown, the spokesman said "we are doing everything we can to not have to take more difficult, more restrictive measures".


  • #6017
    RunningFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 407 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    We are an absolute shambles of a country.

    For the first time in my life I’m ashamed of being Irish.


  • #6018
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    He should be banned off Twitter for that **** he's trying to peddle.


    You can report a Tweet and they'll certainly take action if enough do it

    It is mis-information muck and they don't take too kindly to it at Twitter HQ


  • #6019
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    You can report a Tweet and they'll certainly take action if enough do it

    It is mis-information muck and they don't take too kindly to it at Twitter HQ

    Ah I know, but I don't have a twitter account.
    I try to stay off that cesspool. It's like an international version of the journal comments section!


  • #6020
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Ah I know, but I don't have a twitter account.
    I try to stay off that cesspool. It's like an international version of the journal comments section!


    I only ever check it on really big story days and then try to filter out the noise

    Not always easy for sure


  • #6021
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    RunningFlyer wrote: »
    We are an absolute shambles of a country.

    For the first time in my life I’m ashamed of being Irish.

    Why? May I ask?


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  • #6022
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭boardise


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Yet the UK media has spent months being extremely nationalistic in respect to vaccines and using this as a means to their superiority post Brexit. And it is their nasty variant which is causing problems over Europe.

    The 'variant' is nature's variant- it was simply discovered by UK scientists. No need to try to turn it into a quasi-racial slur.


  • #6023
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    boardise wrote: »
    The 'variant' is nature's variant- it was simply discovered by UK scientists. No need to try to turn it into a quasi-racial slur.

    I think the train has left the station on that one and i really don’t appreciate being called a racist about it. The British variant, the South African variant, the Brazilian Variant the Californian variant. Used by multiple commentators and indeed experts and advisors. I am not someone who has called for borders to be closed.


  • #6024
    RunningFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 407 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Why? May I ask?

    Of course you may. Our entire management of the COVID situation has been reactive. No critical thinking whatsoever.

    Politicians being politicians. They don’t give a hoot for young people as long as they get the “older” generation vote.


  • #6025
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    I think the train has left the station on that one and i really don’t appreciate being called a racist about it. The British variant, the South African variant, the Brazilian Variant the Californian variant. Used by multiple commentators and indeed experts and advisors. I am not someone who has called for borders to be closed.

    The best was some UK politician calling the virus the China virus for months, but he took issues with people calling it the UK strain.


  • #6026
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    RunningFlyer wrote: »
    Of course you may. Our entire management of the COVID situation has been reactive. No critical thinking whatsoever.

    Politicians being politicians. They don’t give a hoot for young people as long as they get the “older” generation vote.

    Would pausing the AZ vaccination program not be considered proactive?
    Or if the **** really hit the fan and there was serious issues with the vaccine and we kept on vaccinating people with it and then finally paused it, would that not be considered reactive?


  • #6027
    RunningFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 407 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Would pausing the AZ vaccination program not be considered proactive?
    Or if the **** really hit the fan and there was serious issues with the vaccine and we kept on vaccinating people with it and then finally paused it, would that not be considered reactive?

    Actually I would say it’s completely reactive considering these blood clot reports came to light a few days ago in Austria.

    Don’t fool yourself. At the moment Ireland have no decision makers at the helm. There seems to be more focus on the virtual shamrock ceremony at the moment than the virus - that should say it all!


  • #6028
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    RunningFlyer wrote: »
    Actually I would say it’s completely reactive considering these blood clot reports came to light a few days ago in Austria.

    Don’t fool yourself. At the moment Ireland have no decision makers at the helm. There seems to be more focus on the virtual shamrock ceremony at the moment than the virus - that should say it all!

    Why would NIAC care about shamrocks?


  • #6029
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Why even post his absolute tripe???
    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    So what are you and he insinuating, that the vaccine is actually causing most of these deaths?
    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    The guy that posted that tweet is a moron. It's disgraceful and it has no place on this thread or anywhere for that matter. Shame on you for posting it.


    To clarify. My post perhaps wasn't clear enough. I totally disagree with him. Thought that was clear enough when I said that he thinks that because there are no deaths today, there's no reason for lockdown. And that he is anti mask and anti vaccine too.

    I humbly beg the mob to forgive me :)


  • #6030
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    To clarify. My post perhaps wasn't clear enough. I totally disagree with him. Thought that was clear enough when I said that he thinks that because there are no deaths today, there's no reason for lockdown. And that he is anti mask and anti vaccine too.

    I humbly beg the mob to forgive me :)

    But I just bought a pitchfork especially....


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  • #6031
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    To clarify. My post perhaps wasn't clear enough. I totally disagree with him.

    So what exactly are you getting at with this bit?
    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    He retweeted below too - that majority of covid deaths in Ireland are in the last 2 months. Does seem stark.


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