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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #5252
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,912 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Derek killed the thread hahaha :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #5253
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    seamus wrote: »
    Like I said before, the numbers are on a trajectory at the moment that they will have real trouble not going to level 4 on 5th April.

    The positive trajectory is gone since the last couple of days. Swabs and case numbers are now indicating a stagnation and possible small rise again, by the time April rolls around with further school classes back it's probable the numbers will be in a worse place than now.


  • #5254
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    seamus wrote: »
    Amateur matches without spectators seems like a good bet.

    That would be sensible and a great uplit for a lot of people.

    But i would put any amount of money against that happening. No chance in hell of it happening. Not a hope

    The excuse is the usual "its what happens after and before matches with gatherings blah blah blah"


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/leo-varadkar-shares-ireland-lockdown-23604784


    "And the second thing that we need to bear in mind is that it's often not just the sporting event itself, or the mass, or the particular event that people are attending that causes the virus to spread. It's all the stuff around it, it's people meeting up after matches to go to somebody's house, or in the car together, that's where the virus spreads, unfortunately."


  • #5255
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    Downlinz wrote: »
    The positive trajectory is gone since the last couple of days. Swabs and case numbers are now indicating a stagnation and possible small rise again, by the time April rolls around with further school classes back it's probable the numbers will be in a worse place than now.

    It's two days ffs. 7 and 14 days average of swabs, cases, positivity rate, death, hospitalizations, ICU occupancy are still going down.
    Sometimes I really wish the government would not release daily number because even a single bad day for who knows what causes panic and isteria here and in the newspapers.


  • #5256
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    It's two days ffs. 7 and 14 days average of swabs, cases, positivity rate, death, hospitalizations, ICU occupancy are still going down.
    Sometimes I really wish the government would not release daily number because even a single bad day for who knows what causes panic and isteria here and in the newspapers.

    That's what they want though and they wield it as a weapon to beat us over the head with.


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  • #5257
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    big syke wrote: »
    That would be sensible and a great uplit for a lot of people.

    But i would put any amount of money against that happening. No chance in hell of it happening. Not a hope

    The excuse is the usual "its what happens after and before matches with gatherings blah blah blah"


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/leo-varadkar-shares-ireland-lockdown-23604784


    "And the second thing that we need to bear in mind is that it's often not just the sporting event itself, or the mass, or the particular event that people are attending that causes the virus to spread. It's all the stuff around it, it's people meeting up after matches to go to somebody's house, or in the car together, that's where the virus spreads, unfortunately."

    Such bull****....Just don't go to people's houses after matches (which is a weird consideration anyway) and make your own way to matches. Rurally that's a bit more tricky but still it's absolutely braindead not to let organised sport happen for that reason. I would be far more likely to stick to other restrictions if we were allowed that. Be a great boost to physical and mental wellbeing. If training isn't allowed this time teams will just meet up anyway. A few lads on our zoom itching for that already


  • #5258
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Monster249 wrote: »
    That's what they want though and they wield it as a weapon to beat us over the head with.



    You really wonder what they are at. Are there 2 different groups and neither bother to check what the other one has released??


    Yesterday it was nursing home residents can have 2 visits a week its all great and this morning oh we are worried as the decline seems to have stalled and the R number etc etc. Feckin clowns!


  • #5259
    Stheno
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    This doesn't sound good from Phillip Nolan - 20 weeks is the end of July :eek)
    In 10 weeks’ time we will be in a different place, and 10 weeks further down the line we’ll be in a much different place but I worry that we will squander the sacrifice of thousands of people over the last 52 weeks if we rush to do things too quickly in the next 10-20 weeks,” he said while speaking on RTÉ Radio One's Morning Ireland.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/nphet-seeing-early-worrying-signs-philip-nolan-urges-people-not-to-squander-52-weeks-of-sacrifice-40187690.html


  • #5260
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Today's GP referral data is out:

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-03-12_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

    The trend this week looks ok to me - number of calls per GP has fallen steadily during the week, as has the number meeting test criteria. Now, the data is a bit
    noisy reflecting the smaller number of GPs filling it in these days but there's nothing of much concern this week that I can see.


  • #5261
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Today's GP referral data is out:

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-03-12_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

    The trend this week looks ok to me - number of calls per GP has fallen steadily during the week, as has the number meeting test criteria. Now, the data is a bit
    noisy reflecting the smaller number of GPs filling it in these days but there's nothing of much concern this week that I can see.

    Yup looks good. No spike in clinically likely covid either


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  • #5262
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Stheno wrote: »
    This doesn't sound good from Phillip Nolan - 20 weeks is the end of July :eek)



    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/nphet-seeing-early-worrying-signs-philip-nolan-urges-people-not-to-squander-52-weeks-of-sacrifice-40187690.html

    I think I saw a tweet last evening saying Gynn said he hoped NPHET would have much less of a role from June/July/August. I was hoping that would be a lot closer to June! Maybe he just means a slow reopening until then which is probably what plan is based on current phase of easing restrictions?


  • #5263
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    623 positive swabs, 3.78% positivity on 16,499 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 3.7%.

    Love to know where they're coming from.


  • #5264
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Looks like their will be another wave of infections tbh.

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1370390881895845892


  • #5265
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    This doesn't sound good from Phillip Nolan - 20 weeks is the end of July :eek)


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/nphet-seeing-early-worrying-signs-philip-nolan-urges-people-not-to-squander-52-weeks-of-sacrifice-40187690.html

    Yeah it's very poor from Nolan

    10 weeks is a very long time not to mind 20

    There's was going to be very little easing of restrictions from Easter until mid May however 10 weeks time is the 21st of May so that does tie in with the 23rd of May date in the Irish Times article yesterday

    “One source said the Government would adopt a “minimalist approach” for the next six-week plan, which will last until May 23rd, and would not bow to sectoral interests.”

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-key-lockdown-restrictions-set-to-last-until-late-may-1.4506908

    Nice coincidence ... which also correlates with what Martin said in the Dail

    If Nolan has his way with end of July and 20 weeks there is no domestic tourism season which will be disastrous for the economy


  • #5266
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yeah it's very poor from Nolan

    10 weeks is a very long time not to mind 20

    There's was going to be very little easing of restrictions from Easter until mid May however 10 weeks time is the 21st of May so that does tie in with the 23rd of May date in the Irish Times article yesterday

    “One source said the Government would adopt a “minimalist approach” for the next six-week plan, which will last until May 23rd, and would not bow to sectoral interests.”

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-key-lockdown-restrictions-set-to-last-until-late-may-1.4506908

    Nice coincidence ... which also correlates with what Martin said in the Dail

    If Nolan has his way with end of July and 20 weeks there is no domestic tourism season which will be disastrous for the economy

    You have to remember Nphet is not concerned with the economy, people's jobs or livelihoods. It is important to remember that the people imposing some of the more non sensical restrictions will not suffer any financial loss. Comforting ,eh?


  • #5267
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    cjyid wrote: »
    623 positive swabs, 3.78% positivity on 16,499 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 3.7%.

    Love to know where they're coming from.



    This day last week


    615 Swabs
    3.7% + rate


    I don't have the number of test done though


  • #5268
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    This day last week


    615 Swabs
    3.7% + rate


    I don't have the number of test done though

    16,640 last Friday.


  • #5269
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You have to remember Nphet is not concerned with the economy, people's jobs or livelihoods. It is important to remember that the people imposing some of the more non sensical restrictions will not suffer any financial loss. Comforting ,eh?

    very

    usually it's the governments job to think big picture but they just defer to NPHET

    The government know people will go mad if we can't go on foreign holidays this year yet they won't allow a proper domestic holiday season either


  • #5270
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You have to remember Nphet is not concerned with the economy, people's jobs or livelihoods. It is important to remember that the people imposing some of the more non sensical restrictions will not suffer any financial loss. Comforting ,eh?

    Nor should they considering they're not economists. They're also not capable of imposing anything, their role is to advise. Only government can impose.


  • #5271
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    cjyid wrote: »
    16,640 last Friday.



    Bit disappointing alright


    8 more positive swabs from 141 less tests


    Still no need to panic


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  • #5272
    [Deleted User]
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You have to remember Nphet is not concerned with the economy, people's jobs or livelihoods. It is important to remember that the people imposing some of the more non sensical restrictions will not suffer any financial loss. Comforting ,eh?

    And that’s exactly why they should never be let do pressers on their own. The UK way of messaging, with a scientist always accompanied by a member of the cabinet, is much better. They still answer the scientific questions, but not anything outside of that. The way it should be


  • #5273
    Wolf359f
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    cjyid wrote: »
    623 positive swabs, 3.78% positivity on 16,499 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 3.7%.

    Love to know where they're coming from.

    It was asked at the press conference and Glynn gave a wishy-washy answer. They need to be identifying where the cases are coming from and informing the public. We know hospital and nursing home outbreaks should be minimal. People will just point to schools for lack of any other reasonable reason given.


  • #5274
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Rare agreement from all of my rough projections of a slow trend plateauing towards the end of the month.

    Which is disappointing, but plateaus have appeared before and disappeared again. Let's see what next week brings.


  • #5275
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭harr


    It’s the number of people getting tested at this stage which has me slightly worried. No major headway made this week anyway. Hospital numbers slightly up as well.
    Realistically When should we see deaths fall due to the vulnerable getting the vaccine?


  • #5276
    Charles Babbage
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    very

    usually it's the governments job to think big picture but they just defer to NPHET

    The government know people will go mad if we can't go on foreign holidays this year yet they won't allow a proper domestic holiday season either


    If people want a summer like last year then they need to bring the rate down to that we had last year. The people complaining loudest about the lack of holidays etc overlap very substantially with the set of people acting in a way which prevents numbers declining.


  • #5277
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Nice to see some cop on in action. Pushing out the time interval between the doses is working for the UK. No reason why it won't work for us.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/astrazeneca-vaccine-dose-intervals-to-be-stretched-to-allow-for-more-people-to-receive-first-jab-40188401.html


  • #5278
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Nice to see some cop on in action. Pushing out the time interval between the doses is working for the UK. No reason why it won't work for us.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/astrazeneca-vaccine-dose-intervals-to-be-stretched-to-allow-for-more-people-to-receive-first-jab-40188401.html

    Tbh anyone I know who's got AZ was told it'll be 12 weeks so it's already been happening for a good while


  • #5279
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Slowing down this week.

    7 day average 518 positive swabs. Compared to 590 the week previous.

    If 623 cases are announced later on (which it won't )the average number of cases will be 522 for the past week compared to 565 the week previous.

    Still going in right direction but slower than we want.

    Edited i had mistakenly used 613 instead of 623. Didnt make much difference either way.


  • #5280
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    If people want a summer like last year then they need to bring the rate down to that we had last year. The people complaining loudest about the lack of holidays etc overlap very substantially with the set of people acting in a way which prevents numbers declining.

    300 travellers at a funeral in Leitrim, I doubt they are concerned with holidays. Although it would be nice to hear the thoughts of our elected politicians about this event. They were frothing at the mouth to condemn the Students in Limerick and Galway.


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  • #5281
    Kunta Kinte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Kunta Kinte


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    very

    usually it's the governments job to think big picture but they just defer to NPHET

    The government know people will go mad if we can't go on foreign holidays this year yet they won't allow a proper domestic holiday season either

    If? Non essential international travel will be completely off the table before late autumn/early winter at the earliest. No doubt about that.


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