Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

muddypuppy wrote: »

New map of the semaphore EU system is out, Ireland moved from all red to mostly orange this week (https://reopen.europa.eu/en).

So strange not to have UK and NI included .

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Now I wonder what could have re-opened again recently ....

Yes, as I've said and as they said themselves, they did talk about schools, a lot.

Perhaps I've given the impression that they didn't, but they did: frequently.

June.


Yea right.


Your just setting yourself up for more disappointment with such a statement.

AdamD wrote: »

It's a borderline meaningless statistic if their estimated spread is that wide

Correct, the 'Epidemiological Modelling Group' clearly haven't a scooby doo if this is what they are saying, anyone know if they are still refusing to publish the model and how they arrive at the number?

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Two things;

- Thread is moving fairly fast tonight, and

- I'd literally rather watch paint dry then watch the Monday and Thursday briefings anymore

They might be talking about the Schools now, but they've been so much in denial in the past about them it's laughable

No problem. I totally understand how the briefings may bore the arse of many, many people. I'm not constantly on the edge of my seat watching them either, but I find the epidemiology interesting and actually beneficial, in my opinion, in terms of understanding the bigger picture.

And I think those involved do a good job of explaining things in a logical and thought out manner, with a lot more expertise and clarity than our politicans. But I'm sure many on here don't agree with me - and that's fine.

I also think the briefings are useful in terms of being the canary in the coal one. Things that are brought up in the briefings - particularly related to trends of the pattern of the virus - can often times, not always of course, be signs of what is coming down the tracks and what the politicans and Prime Time contributors will be mangling and spinning over a few weeks later. And that we'll all be effected by.

But having said that, every Monday and Thursday, you'll have people on here - not you, not everyone, but some - ranting about what was supposedly said or wasn't said at the briefings - when it's obvious they haven't watched them.

Personally, I'd feel like an idiot, talking about things that didn't happen at something I didn't watch, but, sure to each their own!

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

When this is all over, serious questions are going to be asked about the 'customs' and 'traditions' of that community, given the utter disregard they have shown for their own health and that of the wider populace.

Don't say that to Jennifer o Connell, she was telling us all in the Irish Times what awful people we were and racist to imply that travellers are bad people when only a few might cause trouble. Growing up we were really good to travellers, my mother let them boil eggs in her kettle over a fire. My father and brother were exceptional. One day my mother took sick and my brother was being watched going to see her in hospital. The man who my brother was good to and thought of as a friend came and tried to rob his house. He was caught red handed.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

If only we could trick the authorities into believing Travellers were really Students, watch the crackdown then.
Bit of a bug bear of mine ( I have noted it a few times as I have a son who is a student, a responsible one I may add) how the students are targeted and our minority friends get a free pass. It seems none but a few recognise the acceptable level of discrimination in open view.

Nah, need to trick them into thinking they're all far right lockdown protestors.

The travelling community have, by and large, taken the absolute piss since the start of this. Most of them don’t wear masks, seem to be able to magically be able to skip queues in shops by virtue of being travellers and the level of disrespect they show to others at these massive fcuking funerals which NO guards seem to ever do anything about and NO politicians seem to address is just disgraceful. Simon Harris jumped out of bed in the middle of the night to shame students who, a year into this mess, decided to let loose outside and have a bit of craic. Travellers have relentlessly taken the piss since the start and it’s tumbleweeds from those in authority. Pavee point had some cheek the other week coming out insisting travellers be brought up the vaccination list due to being vulnerable, eh maybe try telling them to wear masks so, stop throwing massive fcuking funerals and have a bit of respect for the general public who have to tolerate their ****ehawkery.

Good progress again thankfully

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

If only we could trick the authorities into believing Travellers were really Students, watch the crackdown then.
Bit of a bug bear of mine ( I have noted it a few times as I have a son who is a student, a responsible one I may add) how the students are targeted and our minority friends get a free pass. It seems none but a few recognise the acceptable level of discrimination in open view.

I would liken it to the Orthodox Jews not complying with Israeli restrictions, the photos from that funeral was insane, how can you police a crowd like that and the Israeli police are one brutally rough police force, but they can't do a thing to this crowd to get them to comply.

jackryan34 wrote: »

And in that year nothing has changed here

If we dropped all restrictions tomorrow and partied like it was 2019 we would be Lombardy in 8-12 weeks

That poor town. Will it ever have a reputation for anything else ever again. Ground zero COVID. 99% of Bergamonians are still alive today . People go on like it's Chernobyl ! :pac:

seamus wrote: »

Can you quote these German epidemiologists?
I'd love to get a translation of what she actually said.

Because the fact that she was talking about plans to lift restrictions doesn't match up to any assertion that she also claimed they were in a new wave.

I expect the "third wave" was a reference to the increase in cases that started in December. They've got cases down low, but not as low as last Summer, hence the caution.

There are no indicators at present that Germany is entering a new wave.

So no wave them, just a regional outbreak.

Edit forgot the link:
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-germanys-third-wave-has-begun/a-56833513


Would just like to point to Seamus who two weeks ago refused to believe the next wave was starting in Europe and Germany in particular. Germany has gone from 5000 cases per day to approximately 15000 per day in two weeks. Basically next week we will be back to November December levels and the lockdown hasn't even been lifted.
Also noteworthy is that the surge started before schools opened two weeks ago. The R number went positive then. Since then, they have opened schools, hair dressers and nail salons and shops by appointment. So the question is how long until they have to introduce full lockdown and it will likely be more strict than the last one.
I predict 100.000 cases per day and disaster and a serious humbling of the German health System by Summer due to pandemic fatique. Also with the amount of spread currently happening in Eastern Europe and Germany our vaccines will be in serious trouble by summer.