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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4352
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Various people often highlight and praise Ireland’s pharma industry and how great it is....

    Can they produce vaccine for us?

    If not why not?

    Could do with some assistance on this - the eu seem to have ballsed up big time.


  • #4353
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    They rely so much on tourism. Basket case economy


    It'll be interesting to see what Spain do too

    And one to watch is Bali. Something like a third of their GDP comes from Tourism. That's insane

    In contrast, Ireland's fluctuates around the 5 to 6% mark


  • #4354
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Various people often highlight and praise Ireland’s pharma industry and how great it is....

    Can they produce vaccine for us?

    If not why not?

    Could do with some assistance on this - the eu seem to have ballsed up big time.

    It's mostly medical and pharmaceuticals devices rather than the medication itself.


  • #4355
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    It's mostly medical and pharmaceuticals devices father than the medication itself.

    So can they make the vaccine or not?

    Often hear politicians praising how great the pharma industry is here.


  • #4356
    Ferris_Bueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Maestro85 wrote: »
    Strange question for anyone to answer but when do ye think the hospitality sector will be opening? Will the government speed up the process or follow its roadmap?

    The current 'plan' says that outdoor dining and drinking (including wet pubs) can resume for up to 15 people in Level 4. For some reason I just cannot see them allowing this to happen even though it is in the plan that they designed.

    I'm hoping Level 4 in April, Level 3 in May and so on. Staying in Level 5 until May is too long.


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  • #4357
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    It's mostly medical and pharmaceuticals devices rather than the medication itself.

    So like various plastic widgets and gadgets but not the medicine itself?

    Great.....


  • #4358
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,661 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Ferris_Bueller wrote: »
    The current 'plan' says that outdoor dining and drinking (including wet pubs) can resume for up to 15 people in Level 4. For some reason I just cannot see them allowing this to happen even though it is in the plan that they designed.

    I'm hoping Level 4 in April, Level 5 in May and so on. Staying in Level 5 until May is too long.

    so go to level 4 and then back to level 5 in may ???


  • #4359
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,919 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    yeah especially when the governments strategy is to keep us locked up until we are all vaccinated. yeah sorry MM it wont work as now we have under 300 cases a day and no vaccines.


    let us out!!!!!!!

    No we're not it was 311 cases today.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #4360
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Ended up breaking restrictions today for a few hours, for the first time. Met two friends (siblings, live together) for a walk, masks on, but my god it was such an enormous mood lift. This is the most relaxed I've felt in about 2 months.

    I feel bad that I've done it but tbh I'm probably gonna do it again.


  • #4361
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So like various plastic widgets and gadgets but not the medicine itself?

    Great.....

    You're embarrassing yourself


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  • #4362
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,516 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    yeah especially when the governments strategy is to keep us locked up until we are all vaccinated. yeah sorry MM it wont work as now we have under 300 cases a day and no vaccines.


    let us out!!!!!!!

    They have already started to reduce restrictions.

    But just to check, that's your barometer? One day of cases in the 300s and we should just let fly?


  • #4363
    SilentGreenx32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭SilentGreenx32


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Ended up breaking restrictions today for a few hours, for the first time. Met two friends (siblings, live together) for a walk, masks on, but my god it was such an enormous mood lift. This is the most relaxed I've felt in about 2 months.

    I feel bad that I've done it but tbh I'm probably gonna do it again.

    You little scamp


  • #4364
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    You're embarrassing yourself

    Why?!!


  • #4365
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    They have already started to reduce restrictions.

    But just to check, that's your barometer? One day of cases in the 300s and we should just let fly?

    my barometer is being stuck at level 5 for months on end while the rest of the world is opening up,


    got it dude - whether you agree with me or not i could care less


  • #4366
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    when is level 5 being revisited again? they cant keep us locked up now with less than 300 cases or thereabouts

    A week before April 5th we'll know if level 4 or another few weeks of level 5.

    Progress made in the last month is certainly pushing the decision makers towards a easing of restrictions.

    7-day average in cases 480 today, Feb 9th it was 945.

    In hospital 397 and 95 are in ICU compared to 1104 in hospital and 175 in ICU Feb 9th


  • #4367
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    A week before April 5th we'll know if level 4 or another few weeks of level 5.

    Progress made in the last month is certainly pushing the decision makers towards a easing of restrictions.

    7-day average in cases 480 today, Feb 9th it was 945.

    In hospital 397 and 95 are in ICU compared to 1104 in hospital and 175 in ICU Feb 9th


    thank you - great to have a genuine response from someone


  • #4368
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    No we're not it was 311 cases today.


    oh lord great. here we go. this forum is so tedious


  • #4369
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Various people often highlight and praise Ireland’s pharma industry and how great it is....

    Can they produce vaccine for us?

    If not why not?

    Could do with some assistance on this - the eu seem to have ballsed up big time.

    Lots of pharma companies have sites in Ireland. Ireland doesn’t have a significant pharma industry though, we don’t own these companies.


  • #4370
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,516 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    my barometer is being stuck at level 5 for months on end while the rest of the world is opening up,


    got it dude - whether you agree with me or not i could care less

    You mean you couldn't care less?

    Anyway, we are lowering restrictions, slowly, while keeping an eye on things. We have had just one day of 300ish cases, no one is going to base a policy of a single data point like that. If we keep seeing a reduction like this then we should expect to ease restrictions more, but not after one day.

    The current plan is to ease restrictions over a couple of weeks to give time to observe the effects. That seems sensible.


  • #4371
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    You mean you couldn't care less?

    Anyway, we are lowering restrictions, slowly, while keeping an eye on things. We have had just one day of 300ish cases, no one is going to base a policy of a single data point like that. If we keep seeing a reduction like this then we should expect to ease restrictions more, but not after one day.

    The current plan is to ease restrictions over a couple of weeks to give time to observe the effects. That seems sensible.

    Yes, but they will base them on the trend which Philip Nolan has said has increased in the last couple of weeks and continues to be be strong this week - dropping metrics across the board.

    That coupled with the amazing news tonight that nursing homes now have 0.2% testing positive from the mass testing gives them every hope to move to Level 4 and give people some hope and life back. We’ve done what has been asked of us, now let’s (slowly) get moving.


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  • #4372
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    Yes, but they will base them on the trend which Philip Nolan has said has increased in the last couple of weeks and continues to be be strong this week - dropping metrics across the board.

    That coupled with the amazing news tonight that nursing homes now have 0.2% testing positive from the mass testing gives them every hope to move to Level 4 and give people some hope and life back. We’ve done what has been asked of us, now let’s (slowly) get moving.

    Even Level 4 would psychologically be fantastic, just to be out of level 5.

    Even though you cant do a whole lot in Level 4!


  • #4373
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Why?!!

    Where to start? You belittled the amazing products pharmaceutical and biomedical device companies produce here, you also ignorantly suggested they cease production of these often life saving devices to produce covid vaccines.


  • #4374
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So can they make the vaccine or not?

    Often hear politicians praising how great the pharma industry is here.

    By the time any production lines get qualified to make anything would probably be 2023 if we started today. It's a non runner.


  • #4375
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Even Level 4 would psychologically be fantastic, just to be out of level 5.

    Even though you cant do a whole lot in Level 4!

    Level 4 is pathetic, there is no difference to level 5. The sooner nphet are told **** off the better.


  • #4376
    jackryan34
    Site Banned Posts: 85 ✭✭jackryan34


    h2005 wrote: »
    I get what you're saying regarding hospitalisations but why would you stop the PCR tests? Surely we should continue with this and genome sequencing for the foreseeable. There is still much not known about the virus at this point.

    With vaccines out there and available I think PCR mass testing is way over the top

    We dont test people for flu, ebola and other illnesses outside of hospital or medical settings, you go in sick, you get tested, how its always been.

    We will have hundreds or even thousands of cases a day when we have no restrictions next winter. Virus is not going away, its going to be there, vaccines stop severe cases, who cares after that about variants etc, let scientists worry about it

    We need to live normal again


  • #4377
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Where to start? You belittled the amazing products pharmaceutical and biomedical device companies produce here, you also ignorantly suggested they cease production of these often life saving devices to produce covid vaccines.


    Frankly don’t give a damn about the plastic things they make at the moment the priority is vaccines and More vaccines

    Disappointed that this so called pharma industry we have here in this country cannot adapt and churn out the vaccines desperately required


  • #4378
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I don’t give a damn about the plastic things they make at the moment the priority is vaccines and More vaccines

    😂Plastic things. It’s not toys they are making.


  • #4379
    Ferris_Bueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    so go to level 4 and then back to level 5 in may ???

    Typo, meant to say level 3.


  • #4380
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Level 4 is pretty much Level 5-light.

    No great and appreciable difference.


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  • #4381
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Level 4 is pretty much Level 5-light.

    No great and appreciable difference.

    i dream of level 4 or level 2


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