Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Deleted User wrote: »

foreign imports are cheaper than producing their own shows based on their cost base. There is a difference.
According to the secret producer it is a place where restrictive practices and deadweight abounds.
You'd expect them to have a late night chat/entertainment show to bring people back to the channel in the morning but that appears to be a golden rule of TV which RTE don't follow.

If RTE had an eye for talent/success they'd be able to buy the rights to TV shows for relativity cheap before the shows became popular. TG4 are a great example of just that, they were airing many great shows before they had popular appeal.

81 RTÉ workers offered contracts after review of staff misclassified as self-employed.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/81-rte-workers-offered-contracts-after-review-of-staff-misclassified-as-self-employed-38778298.html

I can't even remember the last US show I followed on RTE, it was probably the sopranos and the first few seasons of madmen until they started screwing around with the scheduling.
While TG 4 has mr robot and the new series of fargo at the moment.

Theworldisy wrote: »

Well if they are what is the point of rte. Foreign imports are available elsewhere so rte should not being spending tax payers money to buy them. Rte should be about home grown programs etc. We do not need foreign imports they are provided elsewhere.

if they were to rely solely on home produced shows it would cost even more to run RTE and you would just be complaining about that instead.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if they were to rely solely on home produced shows it would cost even more to run RTE and you would just be complaining about that instead.

Yes, if they planned to produce 11,000 hours of TV something that they don't need.

Imports have some value but the amount that RTÉ buys in is way beyond their need.

ITV disappeared a couple of years ago for Virgin Media users. I think it was still NTL when that channel disappered.

ITV channels were on and off NTL and UPC, there was a point where NTL only had ITV3 and then it was drop, then they had all 3 extra channels, then they drop UTV because of UTV Ireland as UPC maybe as Virgin Media, then ITV2 was dropped because Virgin Media had the rights to many of its shows, well Love Island.

So perhaps I am wrong but it really seems as if 2FM's new schedule really failed, here you have a big news story about one of their main stars and I get the impression very few people actually know who he is. Unless your following his wokeness or unless your interested in the media, everyone else seems to be going who is this guy?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they have X number of hours to fill every day. Doing it with imports is cheaper. On a thread complaining about the licence fee it is odd that some are advocating for more more expensive home produced shows.

Your right they do have X number of hours to fill.

RTÉ ONE fills their prime time with 25% repeats and RTÉ2 fills it with 50% repeats. While Early morning on both is filled with Euronews.

They buy in 30 hours per day of content, most of which ends up on late night TV and is barely promoted.

If they utilized all this content they I might agree, but they don't. They have never even cut the cost of this content unlike home produced content.

StevenToast wrote: »

They shouldnt need to be looking to fill in "x" number of hours for the sake of it.

Get rid of RTE2 and 2fm.....

Number of hours to fill in... reduced automatically...

sure scrap them completely.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

sure scrap them completely.

Have to agree sorry, RTÉ2 and 2FM are now a non-requirement for RTÉ. Either they should be sold or closed, I would preference being sold.

I say this as someone who see value in public service broadcasting, but not in the current situation at RTÉ.

Here you have an organisation begging for an increase in funding but unable to tell us what they would potentially do with that funding.

Drama cut to just 2.5m in 2019
Children's cut to just 3.5m in 2019

While 2FM sees little or no cuts and Imported Programming is ring fenced.

Deleted User wrote: »

They should be sold. The biggest issue with starting a new channel is getting people to tune in. It is the reason why TV3 bought some sports events. This forced people who wanted to see those events to tune in TV3 or get people who know how to tune in a channel to tune it in on their behalf.

Slightly different back in the day, for TV3, Canwest had always targeted 7% and they got that from the off with little or no live sport. Many people were still in 3 TV Land, while the addition of TV3 to most cable services brought them up to 16 or so channels.

New channels in Ireland either have to decide to go the route of Channel 6, and even with that they need to be on Saorview, unfortunately Channel 6 was a few years ahead of their time. Even when rebranded as 3e it saw a drop after building an audience with its new schedule.

UTV Ireland made the mistake that TV3 was the established national commercial broadcaster with an established news service and no matter how good your news service is it won't be able to move people from the two main national news service channels.

Really UTV Ireland news should have been a very basic news service coming from their regions utilizing their regional radio stations, while their regional radio station should have used UTV Ireland as their national news service.... instead they went with Newstalk, their competitor!

That is on top of the fact that UTV Ireland failed to look out side ITV Studio's programming. Over those 2 years neither TV3 (7%) or UTV Ireland grew, UTV Ireland didn't even see TV3's coverage of the world cup dent their 6.5% share of the audience and UTV proper's 1.5%.

But yes RTÉ2 at the moment would be an attractive offer to any private company. It's current share while low can be increased, it still has a relatively stable audience, its imports if utilized are impressive and if the deal also gives the private company UEFA champions league they can definitely build on the channels programming. Indeed RTÉ could easily put a late night political chat show on RTÉ2 since the move of The Tonight Show to 10pm on VM1, this would massively help the ailing channel.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

A lot of RTE's 'new' talent, as in over the last 20 years, failed. Some went over to TV3, but others were lucky if they got jobs on their local radio. (Or, if you're the likes of former 2tube presenters, you were lucky if you had a band. Liam McCormack for example).

Many folks drained listeners (such as the one in question) whilst others just bellyflopped.

PEople just want to hear music-they don't need a natty presenter being annoying. Spotify does all I need, without being spoken down to.

Googled Liam McCormack, came up with a butchers. No idea who the guy you mentioned is.

Regarding the music, the only time we need presenters/djs is during speciality shows where it's their taste in music that comes through on the show. The usual 2FM nonsense of playing the same playlisted songs doesn't need some haircut saying "love you bye bye".

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Adding RTE+1 and RTE2+2 was crazy when they had the Player, BBC have no +1 channels. It must be their own admition that the Player is pure unfit for purpose trash.

BBC had asked for BBC ONE +1 when they dropped BBC THREE. RTÉ ONE +1 was supposed to be a holding channel for RTÉ PLUS/THREE but they never got the go ahead for that channel. They should have asked to add RTÉ PLUS when the asked to let RTÉ ONE +1 got 24 hours and for the addition of RTÉ2+1. I don't really understand why they didn't ask for RTÉ2+1 to be 24 hours. Also it is not available on any other platform other than Soarview.