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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote: »
    Did see the whole briefing, but judging by the clip, it sounds like Glynn was answering a question about these four stillbirths with potential links. He can't lie, so he's said there are some reports, but so far that's it.

    He's very much downplaying it, it's the media who are trying to make it a headline. Someone asked the question precisely because they knew they could make a headline about stillbirths out of the answer.

    Yes colour me surprised that the question came from Lee. Wonder who prompted him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    NPHET basically write the RTE news and these are the stories they want to be published.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1367551657840685063

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1367541421750841350

    Wtf!
    Some of ye should just ..switch off the news and the briefings if you don't want to know !

    There have been four mothers who have lost their babies due to infection from a preventable virus.
    Placentitis and amniotic infections can cause miscarriage and still birth from other severe infections .
    As it happens these were caused by Covid , or coincided with maternal Covid infection .
    Why would pregnant women all over the country not want to know this ?

    And as for the students in NUIG , it shows how fast this virus can spread, no harm to show it in graphic form .
    Her question about deaths could very well be answered " no deaths yet" as some of those infections seeded into vulnerable people .
    This commentary is beyond ridiculous and beneath you :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Edit
    Thanks for the edit after I replied

    I seem to remember you making a big deal of the fact I replied to my own post as some sort of smoking gun that I have multiple accounts..........

    Are you talking to yourself? I doubt I'll get 20 likes like you did :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Didn't poster StephenJMCD say on here this week that mass testing in a major Irish hospital garnered just 4 positive cases?

    I thought Covid in Irish hospitals was under control now. There's some tests I've been putting off, but I can't for too much longer

    Golden Girl?

    That is true .
    As long as you haven't been at any student house or cemetery parties recently ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just on this.

    A case today was discovered and the whole class was sent home and are to be tested.

    So as I was saying we don't know the facts of each case and the protocol you say in this article has turned out to be wrong.

    They are considering kids and teachers close contacts.

    Think this time round they are being more cautious because of the prevalence of the more transmissible variant .
    Nolan even talking about " difficulty interpreting data " re cases among younger children.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    With numbers getting low again its a matter of time before "suspected cases" come back in the headlines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Maestro85


    I find it strange that there are no "news" reports on the new variants. It seems like the pressure to open up is having an effect as it did at Christmas. I am praying we don't have an aftershock as we did due to Christmas meetups. Looking at the domestic tourism markets for this year shows July/August being the most booked out months for tourism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Wtf!
    Some of ye should just ..switch off the news and the briefings if you don't want to know !

    There have been four mothers who have lost their babies due to infection from a preventable virus.
    Placentitis and amniotic infections can cause miscarriage and still birth from other severe infections .
    As it happens these were caused by Covid .
    Why would pregnant women all over the country not want to know this ?

    I can find one research paper referring to Covid Placentitis. It’s an Irish research paper. Generally it is considered unwise to draw conclusions from a case study. Now many over next few weeks and months we will start seeing similar cases being reported from all over the world. Then we will have more concrete evidence that Covid is causing Still births.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    There have been four mothers who have lost their babies due to infection from a preventable virus.
    Watching the news here and this has not been confirmed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Maestro85 wrote: »
    I find it strange that there are no "news" reports on the new variants. It seems like the pressure to open up is having an effect as it did at Christmas. I am praying we don't have an aftershock as we did due to Christmas meetups. Looking at the domestic tourism markets for this year shows July/August being the most booked out months for tourism.

    Genuine question but do you know is there any difference in behaviour in winter versus behaviour in summer regarding socialising?
    People have booked trips away assuming they will be allowed to do so, what will be open to entertain them is another matter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    mohawk wrote: »
    I can find one research paper referring to Covid Placentitis. It’s an Irish research paper. Generally it is considered unwise to draw conclusions from a case study. Now many over next few weeks and months we will start seeing similar cases being reported from all over the world. Then we will have more concrete evidence that Covid is causing Still births.

    The advice has been fairly clear that the risk is extremely low to this kind of thing. There is nothing to say this has changed. 4 cases of something yet unexplained is still very small relative to amount of other births.

    I'd say wait and see and no reason to panic.

    equally I wouldn't dismiss what a coroner is saying but even if true may be extremely rare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Maestro85


    Genuine question but do you know is there any difference in behaviour in winter versus behaviour in summer regarding socialising?
    People have booked trips away assuming they will be allowed to do so, what will be open to entertain them is another matter.


    I don't mean for this to sound flippant but it's outside my area of expertise. It may have no effect, I am just surprised the media is on its usual news grind about this stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Maestro85 wrote: »
    I don't mean for this to sound flippant but it's outside my area of expertise. It may have no effect, I am just surprised the media is on its usual news grind about this stuff.

    In winter time due to weather, normally wet and cold people tend to meet up inside. Due to the cold etc windows normally closed. Whereas in summer mild to good weather people spend more time outside meeting others and even when inside windows tend to be open.
    At Christmas people were given 3 weeks to meet friends and family , many were responsible although equally many weren't. Hopefully government and Nphet will realise come summer giving people a short window to socialise with friends/ family was a f**king disaster. Lastly I expect come July/August we will be significantly down the road of vaccination with some hope of normal life on the near horizon.
    Don't worry though the media will find something to scare the sh!te out of people with. Some prime examples mentioned here today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    The advice has been fairly clear that the risk is extremely low to this kind of thing. There is nothing to say this has changed. 4 cases of something yet unexplained is still very small relative to amount of other births.

    I'd say wait and see and no reason to panic.

    equally I wouldn't dismiss what a coroner is saying but even if true may be extremely rare.

    I might be accused of scaremongering here but I'm not a medical expert. If someone is pregnant and gets an illness they should consider checking in with their obstetrician.

    Id say the same about if someone has covid. Check in with your specialist. You don't have to rush to do it but mention it at an appointment and ask them if there's a risk you should be concerned about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Watching the news here and this has not been confirmed.

    Placentitis was the cause .
    My post contains more than one line which you took out if context , but glad you watched the news anyway .
    Better to know about a risk and be aware that there is one so you know what to watch out for .
    Think everyone has stated it is rare , but if people didn't find out there might be even the smallest risk until it was too late , can you imagine the outcry ?
    My sympathies are not with the poor posters here who are getting distressed over George Lee and Glynn and the students in NUIG , but those four women tonight . :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes but the implication is in that post was all HCW infection which is astoundingly stupid.
    As a HCW I will not accept FB like posts and anecdotes that undermine all the good work done in our hospitals.
    Every effort is made to prevent transmission but it was very difficult to prevent when community transmission was so high.
    Anywhere you get breakouts one of the questions people should be asking is could this be prevented by reducing those infected in the first place.
    Impossible in a hospital environment.

    Lol, will you look at that arrogance, you won’t accept it?! :D

    Whether you accept it or not, hospitals have been swarming with it, due to in part the negligence of HCWs. I know because I was there, got the T-shirt and am still angry with the carry-on I saw, almost a year later. You can find my post of 8th April 2020 and read all about it. I’ll summarise for you here, just because your post just there really annoyed me.

    Early April, I went in to a major hospital for an essential work assignment. Never offered any measures or protections, fine. HCWs all around me huddling together without a care in the world, uh. :rolleyes: ok... Informed that a suspected case is in attendance, ok. Then, a nurse comes up to me, no mask, no visor, nothing, and, in order to pass an information?, she comes right up to my face, and breathes all over it! Stunning stuff, and stunned I was. Just did my job like a robot and went home. Three days later, of course, feeling activity in the lymph nodes. Fourth day, wake up with a very sore throat and wiped out, and stay like that for a week. Self-isolate for two weeks. No testing possible, as one has to have two major symptoms to be tested at that point. Were I not so healthy in the first place, it could have been much worse. But HWCs for the win! And never let there be said anything contradicting that! /s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I might be accused of scaremongering here but I'm not a medical expert. If someone is pregnant and gets an illness they should consider checking in with their obstetrician.

    Id say the same about if someone has covid. Check in with your specialist. You don't have to rush to do it but mention it at an appointment and ask them if there's a risk you should be concerned about.

    Agree with all except if Covid positive or if suspected should let obstetrician know.
    It is a virus causing inflammation which can cause clots or haemorrhagic conditions .
    Any infection in pregnancy needs to be treated / monitored straight away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I might be accused of scaremongering here but I'm not a medical expert. If someone is pregnant and gets an illness they should consider checking in with their obstetrician.

    Id say the same about if someone has covid. Check in with your specialist. You don't have to rush to do it but mention it at an appointment and ask them if there's a risk you should be concerned about.

    Sorry to be clear.

    The wait and see was in reference to any report.

    Absolutely check in. Very little cost doing that even if nothing 👍


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,482 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Nermal wrote: »
    NPHET don't have 'suspicions', they have four partial anecdotes.

    Using them to frighten the public - in the face of mountains of actual data suggesting pregnant women don't have anything to worry about - is reprehensible.

    You can post that in the Conspiracy theory forum

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.buzz.ie/news/dublin-airport-record-10-increase-in-the-number-of-passengers-arriving-last-week-420628

    Between February 22 and 28, 11,067 people arrived in the country -

    "Of those arriving home, a report has shown the majority of them were returning home from a holiday abroad"

    :) Us plebs sticking to the rules really are being laughed at....


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.buzz.ie/news/dublin-airport-record-10-increase-in-the-number-of-passengers-arriving-last-week-420628

    Between February 22 and 28, 11,067 people arrived in the country -

    "Of those arriving home, a report has shown the majority of them were returning home from a holiday abroad"

    :) Us plebs sticking to the rules really are being laughed at....

    Mandatory hotel quarantine, wha? One cannot travel more than 5km without a legitimate reason, meanwhile holidaymakers fly thousands of kilometers. Risking introduction of stubborn new variants that are difficult to shift and prolonging lockdown. Chapeau Donnelly, bravo Leo and applause for Michéal. Nodding donkeys one and all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yeah I hope the quarantined and if they didn't they should be punished to high fukc. It's that serious at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 427 (down from 472 last night)
    ICU 103 (down from 108 last night)

    Last Thursday
    Total 585
    ICU 140


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 427 (down from 472 last night)
    ICU 103 (down from 108 last night)

    Last Thursday
    Total 585
    ICU 140

    That's some change in hospital figures

    Fantastic to see


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,702 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 427 (down from 472 last night)
    ICU 103 (down from 108 last night)

    Last Thursday
    Total 585
    ICU 140

    That’s an enormous drop. We could potentially see sub 400 in hospital tomorrow before the weekend and sub 100 in ICU.

    We were told that hospital numbers were a key metric for relaxing restrictions. This is definitely helping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    marno21 wrote: »
    That’s an enormous drop. We could potentially see sub 400 in hospital tomorrow before the weekend and sub 100 in ICU.

    We were told that hospital numbers were a key metric for relaxing restrictions. This is definitely helping.

    Don't worry,the goal posts will be shifted with regards that metric,they will be really concerned about some variant,the amount of traffic on roads or the high volume of ATM transactions in Carrick On Shannon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    marno21 wrote: »
    That’s an enormous drop. We could potentially see sub 400 in hospital tomorrow before the weekend and sub 100 in ICU.

    We were told that hospital numbers were a key metric for relaxing restrictions. This is definitely helping.

    Yes that certainly will help

    ICU could still be over 50 by Easter as it's slower to move

    Hopefully cases will keep decreasing

    One thing that apparently will be used which nobody in the general public can do anything about is the progress with the vaccination program

    With the supply issues very hard to see us being on schedule by Easter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Don't worry,the goal posts will be shifted with regards that metric,they will be really concerned about some variant,the amount of traffic on roads or the high volume of ATM transactions in Carrick On Shannon

    Schools.

    The media will lap up cases in schools as some massive event and the public will swallow it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    marno21 wrote: »
    That’s an enormous drop. We could potentially see sub 400 in hospital tomorrow before the weekend and sub 100 in ICU.

    We were told that hospital numbers were a key metric for relaxing restrictions. This is definitely helping.
    386 in hospital when level 5 restrictions was eased May last year, we might get close to that figure tomorrow evening.


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