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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #3272
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Cool cool, you said EU roll out has been poor relative to UK / Israel. What are your thoughts on the one dose, two dose now that there's some data?

    See separate reply


  • #3273
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Are the Coroner reports the reason for the delay of the Death announcements ?

    No .
    Families have 3 months to register deaths .


  • #3274
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Ah lads new low for rte, 4 reports of stillborn babies linked to virus, further down the article, they could be linked to virus but we will need to investigate further. Honestly what a shower of ****en *****. Imagine being a pregnant women reading this crap. **** them.


  • #3275
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah lads new low for rte, 4 reports of stillborn babies linked to virus, further down the article, they could be linked to virus but we will need to investigate further. Honestly what a shower of ****en *****. Imagine being a pregnant women reading this crap. **** them.

    Ok but... isn't there a reason why pregnant teachers now have an exemption to go back?


  • #3276
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Ah here, that's total scaremongering now from Glynn and RTE. It's terrible for the families but as it's still being investigated maybe it shouldn't be brought up at the daily press conference and mentioned on the news!


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  • #3277
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah lads new low for rte, 4 reports of stillborn babies linked to virus, further down the article, they could be linked to virus but we will need to investigate further. Honestly what a shower of ****en *****. Imagine being a pregnant women reading this crap. **** them.

    So you don’t think they should report four cases of stillbirth caused by inflamed placentas among covid positive women in recent weeks?


  • #3278
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah lads new low for rte, 4 reports of stillborn babies linked to virus, further down the article, they could be linked to virus but we will need to investigate further. Honestly what a shower of ****en *****. Imagine being a pregnant women reading this crap. **** them.

    I don't watch rte but thank you for scaremongering me.


  • #3279
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Fair play to the writers for still coming up with new story lines to scare people with.

    Cant be easy this many seasons in.


  • #3280
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah lads new low for rte, 4 reports of stillborn babies linked to virus, further down the article, they could be linked to virus but we will need to investigate further. Honestly what a shower of ****en *****. Imagine being a pregnant women reading this crap. **** them.

    That was brought up voluntarily by Glynn with a new name 'Covid Placentis' even though it hasn't been proved true or false.
    Then we were treated to a 15 minute study of spread of a student party in Galway which produced hundreds of cases.
    A journalist later asked if any deaths had been linked to the outbreak- the answer was of course no and only 1 hospitalisation.

    You'd nearly think the NPHET presentations are designed to deflect attention from important issues. Unfortunately the journalists are all extremely compliant and just ask questions on what they were presented


  • #3281
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    fits wrote: »
    So you don’t think they should report four cases of stillbirth caused by inflamed placentas among covid positive women in recent weeks?

    Not until confirmed no.


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  • #3282
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    If covid was causing stillbirth wouldn't we have heard about a load of cases worldwide?


  • #3283
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    normanoffside wrote: »
    A journalist later asked if any deaths had been linked to the outbreak- the answer was of course no and only 1 hospitalisation.

    Was there an air of disappointment at the response?


  • #3284
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    George lee asked the question. Glynn confirmed that the coroner was investigating. By all means blame RTE for the dead babies while simultaneously denying that there is a deadly virus spreading.


  • #3285
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Honestly I don't think anyone blames the Doctors and Nurses, rather the poor equipment, procedures and conditions provided to them by the HSE

    People really seem to think the HSE have more involvement in the running of medical treatment within Acute hospitals than they actually do.

    "Procedures and conditions" are largely designed and dictated by consultants (sometimes registrars), that determine rosters and ways of working within their specialities. They're largely autonomous from the HSE in these matters.


  • #3286
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    If covid was causing stillbirth wouldn't we have heard about a load of cases worldwide?

    NPHET basically write the RTE news and these are the stories they want to be published.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1367551657840685063

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1367541421750841350


  • #3287
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    George lee asked the question. Glynn confirmed that the coroner was investigating. By all means blame RTE for the dead babies while simultaneously denying that there is a deadly virus spreading.

    Sounds like a George Lee question alright.


  • #3288
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The tail in that Pfizer chart suggests maintaining 2 dose no more than 6 weeks apart may be appropriate for that vaccine at least. 2 dose regimes are generally around promoting the response then fixing the response. The greater side effects after taking the second dose suggests this is true. I hope there isn’t a sting in the Pfizer vaccine regimen in the uk once people get closer to 3 months, however for the moment it looks like they have lucked out on this one

    Given that it looks like prevents hospitalisation and they are far ahead in the rollout do you think we should change our plan to do something similar?


  • #3289
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    If covid was causing stillbirth wouldn't we have heard about a load of cases worldwide?

    Not only that but there was a study carried out by Imperial College recently in over 4,000 pregnant women and concluded that there was no still birth risk associated with Covid 19.

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/215533/covid-19-infection-pregnancy-linked-with-still/


  • #3290
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Then we were treated to a 15 minute study of spread of a student party in Galway which produced hundreds of cases.
    A journalist later asked if any deaths had been linked to the outbreak- the answer was of course no and only 1 hospitalisation.

    "House party in Galway results in increase in hospitalisations"


  • #3291
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Not only that but there was a study carried out by Imperial College recently in over 4,000 pregnant women and concluded that there was no still birth risk associated with Covid 19.

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/215533/covid-19-infection-pregnancy-linked-with-still/

    Surely Dr Glynn would have access to such a study before he would make such an announcement in response to a question. I thought the questions were presubmitted.


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  • #3292
    Renault 5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Renault 5


    Do people who get vaccinated still need to get tested if in close contact.

    I remember reading last year that if a healthcare worker got infected, all their close contacts colleagues needed to quarantine for days. Will this still be the case?


  • #3293
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Then we were treated to a 15 minute study of spread of a student party in Galway which produced hundreds of cases.
    A journalist later asked if any deaths had been linked to the outbreak- the answer was of course no and only 1 hospitalisation.

    RTE alert just now about it, see how one house party led to 400 cases etc.......

    *No deaths and only 1 hospitalisation not included


  • #3294
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Surely Dr Glynn would have access to such a study before he would make such an announcement in response to a question. I thought the questions were presubmitted.

    It’s completely unethical, a premeditated emotional manipulation of pregnant women. Sick.

    Glynn isn’t stupid. He knows exactly what he’s doing.


  • #3295
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    It’s completely unethical, a premeditated emotional manipulation of pregnant women. Sick.

    Glynn isn’t stupid. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    Christ it's under investigation. To say anymore is actually scaremongering.

    Even saying that they were scaremongering is in fact scaremongering. Needs to be concluded before saying anything on it........as Dr Glynn said.


  • #3296
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    It’s completely unethical, a premeditated emotional manipulation of pregnant women. Sick.

    Glynn isn’t stupid. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    That's a disgusting thing for a doctor to do to expectant women who I suspect are already on edge . These people have no morals whatsoever.


  • #3297
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    "House party in Galway results in increase in hospitalisations"

    (By 1 from 442 cases.)

    They all had to write a 2,000 word essay as punishment.


  • #3298
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Christ it's under investigation.

    Ah that’s ok then. The pregnant women of Ireland will sleep easy tonight then so.

    How about waiting until we have an answer before bringing it up?


  • #3299
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Ah that’s ok then. The pregnant women of Ireland will sleep easy tonight then so.

    How about waiting until we have an answer before bringing it up?

    Dr Glynn: "If anyone has concerns they should contact their obstetrician"

    Sometimes you don't need to wait for a coroner's report to warn people.

    Even if there is a 10% chance it's true it's better to be cautious. Best case scenario it's not related. Worse case scenario you took precaution.


  • #3300
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    RTE alert just now about it, see how one house party led to 400 cases etc.......

    *No deaths and only 1 hospitalisation not included

    The level and death and hospitalisation caused by an outbreak of 400+ cases is down to dumb luck. Surely that level of spread is perfectly newsworthy on its own! For example if that had gotten into a nursing home there could easily have been 20 deaths associated. Same outbreak, very different result.


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  • #3301
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    normanoffside wrote: »
    (By 1 from 442 cases.)

    They all had to write a 2,000 word essay as punishment.

    Yet the gathering of 200 +Travellers in a cemetery in Rathkeale no mention of fines being imposed or essays for that matter distinct lack of outrage from the usual suspects in government. Seems students are the only target . No discrimination at all , at all.


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