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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 danoH


    At last ...its the section that follows on from- spinster over 21 years of age daughter of- ......?Healy................Dublin Ireland -that I cant make out and of course this is the bit I am interested in ....Thanksagain -regardless


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    danoH wrote: »
    At last ...its the section that follows on from- spinster over 21 years of age daughter of- ......?Healy................Dublin Ireland -that I cant make out and of course this is the bit I am interested in ....Thanksagain -regardless

    Kudos for your persistence!

    Here's my take on the section after spinster.

    "...now resident in the City of Montreal spinster over 21 years of age daughter of Maurice Healy now resident in Dublin Ireland and his lawful wife now deceased Mona Dwyer were united by me by authority of License in the holy bonds of matrimony on January 26th 1917 in the City of Montreal in presence of subscribing witnesses..."

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,781 pinkypinky
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    Concur - think the word Hermy is missing is "were"

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Concur - think the word Hermy is missing is "were"

    Now amended thanks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 danoH


    Pinky Hermy thank you so much -I kept thinling that 'lawful wife ...' was an area in Dublin.... Mona Dwyer ...should help me to locate Maurice in the 1901/11 cencus ...patience pays .....Thanks a million danoH


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 mindhorn
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    spurious wrote: »
    It certainly would be unusual with her daughter as informant, who presumably would know.

    There is a Laurence Whelan died in the hospice (Dublin South) in 1897.

    Thanks spurious.

    I see the Laurence you referred to but I think that's someone unrelated. Also states that he was a carpenter whereas on Mary Anne's death cert it says her husband was a porter. Obviously people had many varied jobs back then but I do think it's a different person. Plus he was 45 in 1897 and she was 57 in 1898. Ages were not always accurate but I don't think there's a connection between the two people.

    Don't want to drag this any further off topic but that's thrown a right spanner in the works. A lot of research has been done on the back of some of the names mentioned here. I'll have to go back over the details but afraid of confirmation bias creeping in. Maybe this needs to be moved to the off-topic chat but I don't know if someone fancies cross-checking some documents I have. I have all the details but I may like someone to take a look at what I have and confirm whether what I have looks okay or if I've made a mistake along the way.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,781 pinkypinky
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    Please feel free to start a new thread with all the stuff.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 srmf5
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    It's not handwriting but I'm wondering if anyone might be able to make out what's on this headstone.

    148757595_1436219191.jpg

    It looks to say:
    MARY KELLY
    A native of the parish of ?
    County Roscommon Ireland

    There's one parish that I think it might be, but even then, it doesn't look exactly right. The bottom of the headstone also has 'Erected by' but I can't see much else after that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 Mick Tator
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    srmf5 wrote: »
    It's not handwriting but I'm wondering if anyone might be able to make out what's on this headstone.

    It looks to say:
    MARY KELLY
    A native of the parish of ?
    County Roscommon Ireland

    There's one parish that I think it might be, but even then, it doesn't look exactly right. The bottom of the headstone also has 'Erected by' but I can't see much else after that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


    In memor’m of
    MARY KELLY
    A native of the Parish of ….
    County Roscommon in Ireland
    (???)
    Sept 27th 184?
    Aged 64 years

    I cannot decipher the italic script but the penultimate line commences ‘Erected by …. (possibly ‘her brother’?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 srmf5
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    Mick Tator wrote: »
    In memor’m of
    MARY KELLY
    A native of the Parish of ….
    County Roscommon in Ireland
    (???)
    Sept 27th 184?
    Aged 64 years

    I cannot decipher the italic script but the penultimate line commences ‘Erected by …. (possibly ‘her brother’?)

    Thanks for the help. I think that the year is 1863 but I'm not certain. I also can't make out who it's erected by. It's the erected by and parish that I'm mostly interested in but primarily the parish. Looking at the image, there seems to be a better chance of making out the parish than the erected by anyway. The picture is on Findagrave of a headstone in the US. I'm interested to know if she was from the same parish as my ancestors. It's a shame that the person who took the picture didn't transcribe what was on the headstone as well since it looks like it would be easy enough to read if you were looking at it in-person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 Mick Tator
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    It is challenging. Are you in the Kelly Clan Facebook group/page? There is a large number of US Kellys there with Roscommon heritage and they might know of her/ graveyard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 srmf5
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    Mick Tator wrote: »
    It is challenging. Are you in the Kelly Clan Facebook group/page? There is a large number of US Kellys there with Roscommon heritage and they might know of her/ graveyard.

    Thanks for the tip! I'll try that out.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,374 spurious
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    Do you know which graveyard/cemetery it is? It's a long shot, but there may have been volunteers transcribed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 srmf5
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    spurious wrote: »
    Do you know which graveyard/cemetery it is? It's a long shot, but there may have been volunteers transcribed it.

    Yes, it's Saint John the Evangelist Cemetery, Lambertville, Hunterdon County, New Jersey, USA.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Re cause of death for the last entry on this record can anyone tell me the word I'm missing?

    I have the first part - pulmonary exhaustion 2 hours - but the middle word of the second line has me stumped - chronic _______ disease.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1970/04148/4054363.pdf

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 srmf5
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    Hermy wrote: »
    Re cause of death for the last entry on this record can anyone tell me the word I'm missing?

    I have the first part - pulmonary exhaustion 2 hours - but the middle word of the second line has me stumped - chronic _______ disease.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1970/04148/4054363.pdf

    Could it be chronic tubercular disease?

    I think that the first part could be pulmonary embolism.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Spot on srmf5 - thanks!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 Whereisgerry?
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    Any idea what the surname might be on this birth record?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Any idea what the surname might be on this birth record?

    Folliott?

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,191 New Home
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    Fallcott?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 champchamp
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    Any idea what the location here is?

    J-Wall.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 Jellybaby_1
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    champchamp wrote: »
    Any idea what the location here is?

    J-Wall.jpg


    Looks like Jeremiah Wall of Mendicity Institute. It's on Usher's Island in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 champchamp
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    Thank you. I would never have figured that out.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Just a wee reminder...

    Where possible we prefer if people post full images and links to or descriptions of sources.

    This will help others to help you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 louis346789
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    Hi All
    Please try for Fathers name
    at Entry no 63 Marriage of Thomas Mullen to Catherine Watters

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11384/8180003.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 mindhorn
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    Owen?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Looking for opinions on the entry third from the top right hand page please.

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634405#page/60/mode/1up

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 tabbey
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    Hermy wrote: »
    Looking for opinions on the entry third from the top right hand page please.

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634405#page/60/mode/1up

    Looks like James of James Hoey & Mary bonus ( or Bowes), Kgt, sp Margaret Barry, Balimount.

    Unlikely though because Hoey is not a name associated with Kildare. Kgt might mean knight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,844 L1011
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    I was thinking Lacy for the surname as there's some similar looping; but the same writer has written half-width M's nearby that are also very similar.

    I've ancestors from that parish and surname spelling consistency is extra-poor from experience, despite decent older records.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,603 Hermy
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    Yes, I believe it is Hoey but wanted a second opinion.
    A prison record confirms that he was born in Broadford.

    Could that kgt be ilgt - short for illegitimate?

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