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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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    #2492
    hblock21
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    https://search.findmypast.ie/record?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FMICROFILM02455-02%2F0019&parentid=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4814098

    right hand page. third baptism up from bottom

    26th Apr
    Margaret of John Kiely and Margaret Neil
    sprs, H....? Neil and Catherine Neil

    Name of first sponsor? I honestly dont know. Seems to start with a H. Doesn't look like Thomas but could be suppose...?
    Thank you.


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    #2493
    pinkypinky
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    I think it could be Thomas - if you count the strokes down.

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    #2494
    hblock21
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭hblock21


      pinkypinky wrote: »
      I think it could be Thomas - if you count the strokes down.

      actually yes. counting the down strokes. I can now see the M in ThoMa

      Thanks


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      #2495
      pinkypinky
      Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


      Transcribing 18th century letters is teaching me things!

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      #2496
      Meursault
      Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Meursault


      Hi All, I need help with the writing here. I cannot make out the mother's maiden name:

      See 4th line on the link - Mary Talbot - Father's name is Nicholas Talbot. Born 1866 in Urlingford.

      What I cannot decipher:

      Mother's full maiden name - is her first name Margaret? I have no idea what her surname is though?

      In the signature, qualification, and residence section, there is something written under "Margaret Talbot" - any ideas?

      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03508/2290056.pdf


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      #2497
      Hermy
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      Looks like Margaret Talbot formerly Quirk and Margaret Talbot mother Darby's Hill.

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      #2498
      Meursault
      Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Meursault


      Hermy wrote: »
      Looks like Margaret Talbot formerly Quirk and Margaret Talbot mother Darby's Hill.

      Thanks Hermy


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      #2499
      spurious
      Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,118 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


      Would appreciate suggestions as to the first word in the cause of death for little Mary Reilly, 2nd entry on this page:
      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05405/4509766.pdf

      ??? Heart failure.


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      #2500
      pinkypinky
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      Could it be defective?

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      #2501
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      pinkypinky wrote: »
      Could it be defective?
      Don't think so. It has me beaten. That guy does not cross his 't's - see 'certified' 'spinster' 'painter' etc. The second letter could be a 't' . Initially I thought it might be 'adolescens' but then I saw 8 days so ruled that out...


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      #2502
      Jellybaby_1
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      spurious wrote: »
      Would appreciate suggestions as to the first word in the cause of death for little Mary Reilly, 2nd entry on this page:
      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05405/4509766.pdf

      ??? Heart failure.

      Looks like Abl......is

      Ablation is a heart condition so something along those lines I'd say.


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      #2503
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      Jellybaby_1 wrote: »
      Looks like Abl......is

      Ablation is a heart condition so something along those lines I'd say.
      Don't think so - ablation is a procedure not a condition.


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      #2504
      Jellybaby_1
      Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


      Mick Tator wrote: »
      Don't think so - ablation is a procedure not a condition.


      Ah! Then I'm out of order! Apologies.


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      #2505
      Jellybaby_1
      Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


      Just found this. Might benefit others too.

      http://genealogy-quest.com/glossary-terms/diseases/medical-terminology-beginning-letter-a/


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      #2506
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      Jellybaby_1 wrote: »
      Ah! Then I'm out of order! Apologies.
      Gosh no. It was a good attempt and the list was a good find. I wonder if the ending of the word is 'lesions'?


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      #2507
      spurious
      Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,118 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


      Isn't it shocking writing?
      I think we may not get to the bottom of it.

      I thought myself maybe it ended in something like 'ssis'. I know it's not pertussis, but something along those lines maybe.
      Something heart related anyway, poor little thing.


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      #2508
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      spurious wrote: »
      Isn't it shocking writing?
      I think we may not get to the bottom of it.
      More like the heart of the matter!


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      #2509
      mindhorn
      Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭mindhorn


      Stumped. Was confident enough that it began with 'Abb...' but looking at it again I'm not even sure it starts with A (as it looks different to the fourth entry - Anna).


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      #2510
      Hermy
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      I don't think it is but I'll just throw this in the hat - allergies?

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      #2511
      BowWow
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      "arrhythmia"

      But the Registrar couldn't spell it properly :rolleyes:


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      #2512
      spurious
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      BowWow wrote: »
      "arrhythmia"

      But the Registrar couldn't spell it properly :rolleyes:

      Oh I think you might be right there.
      Imagine getting a job where you were filling in official records with a scrawl like that.


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      #2513
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      Hermy wrote: »
      I don't think it is but I'll just throw this in the hat - allergies?
      It could be. I'd accept allergies over Allerryhmthia (!):)


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      #2514
      BowWow
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      spurious wrote: »
      Oh I think you might be right there.
      Imagine getting a job where you were filling in official records with a scrawl like that.

      Often wish the Registrars were told to write in block capitals....


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      #2515
      New Home
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      I think it's Abb something, too - ABB (R)_ _G_SIS?? Maybe ATE-something? Could it have been a second condition, rather than an adjective relating to the heart failure?


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      #2516
      New Home
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      Atelectasis?

      Crossword solvers sometimes help. https://www.crosswordsolver.org/solve/ate
      is


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      #2517
      Hermy
      Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


      BowWow wrote: »
      Often wish the Registrars were told to write in block capitals....

      Bear in mind though that this is not the registrars handwriting.

      Instead it is that of a clerk whose job it was to make these handwritten copies of for head office in Dublin while the originals remained in the local office.

      It's likely though that the registrars handwriting was no better leading the clerks to be deliberately ambiguous in what they wrote.

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      #2518
      tabbey
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      spurious wrote: »
      Oh I think you might be right there.
      Imagine getting a job where you were filling in official records with a scrawl like that.

      Doctors have always had terrible writing, in fact the current generation is much worse.


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      #2519
      tabbey
      Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


      Hermy wrote: »
      Bear in mind though that this is not the registrars handwriting.

      Instead it is that of a clerk whose job it was to make these handwritten copies of for head office in Dublin while the originals remained in the local office.

      It's likely though that the registrars handwriting was no better leading the clerks to be deliberately ambiguous in what they wrote.

      That may be true today, but in the 19th century It was the duty of the local registrar, ie. the dispensary doctor, to transcribe his registers at the end of each quarter, to be included in the gro registers. Sometimes the assistant registrar might do the task, but few registrars had assistants.


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      #2520
      Hermy
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      tabbey wrote: »
      That may be true today, but in the 19th century It was the duty of the local registrar, ie. the dispensary doctor, to transcribe his registers at the end of each quarter, to be included in the gro registers. Sometimes the assistant registrar might do the task, but few registrars had assistants.

      That makes sense.

      Thanks for the correction tabbey. :)

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      #2521
      Mick Tator
      Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


      New Home wrote: »
      Atelectasis?

      Crossword solvers sometimes help. https://www.crosswordsolver.org/solve/ate
      is


      That makes more sense. I believe you have got it!


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