COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I phoned my father myself. The gp said his diabetes is undercontrol so he will not be in group 4 due to that ( is this correct?). But his bmi is 43. He is working on it it is down from much higher since last year and the gp said that that wont let him get it faster!

A BMI over 40 moves him up to the new category 4.

The GP may not be aware of his BMI?

seamus wrote: »

That said, this rollout is revealing cracks in the GP system that have been hidden for years. My over-70s father-in-law was told by his GP that because he doesn't have a medical card he won't be included in this rollout and will have to wait until it's open to the wider public.

So he's changing GP to one who will get it for him. My suspicion is that the other GP hasn't joined the HSE programme, so *he* can't distribute any vaccines, but doesn't want to lose any patients, so he's just telling his patients they can't get it yet.

Hold on a minute now.

I don't think the vaccination is linked to whether you have a:

(1) full GMS card
(2) GP visit card (all over 70s)
(3) you pay yourself

The GPs are being paid well for this, 60 euro per person, so what is the story here?

EU to propose vaccine passports for summer travel

The European Commission will present a proposal in March on creating an EU-wide digital Covid-19 vaccination passport that may allow Europeans to travel more freely over the peak summer holiday period.

Commission president Ursula von der Leyen announced the coming legislative proposal in a speech to German conservative  politicians today, providing a few more details in subsequent tweets.

The "digital green pass" would provide proof that a person has been vaccinated, results of tests for those not yet vaccinated and information on recovery for people who have contracted Covid-19.

The aim is to gradually enable them to move safely in the European Union or abroad - for work or tourism," she said in a tweet.

EU leaders agreed last week to work on vaccine certificates, for which southern countries such as Spain and Greece are pushing to unlock tourism this summer.

However, a number of countries say it will first need to be established that vaccinated people cannot transmit the virus to others.

Some countries, such as France and Belgium, also expressed concern that easing travel only for inoculated people would be unfair.

The Commission said it would seek to avoid discrimination against citizens who have not received a vaccine.

EU countries agreed in January on the basic data requirements of a vaccination certificate. A Commission spokesman said the EU executive would seek to coordinate on security standards and help connect the national health systems.“”

Micky 32 wrote: »

EU to propose vaccine passports for summer travel

The European Commission will present a proposal in March on creating an EU-wide digital Covid-19 vaccination passport that may allow Europeans to travel more freely over the peak summer holiday period.

Commission president Ursula von der Leyen announced the coming legislative proposal in a speech to German conservative  politicians today, providing a few more details in subsequent tweets.

The "digital green pass" would provide proof that a person has been vaccinated, results of tests for those not yet vaccinated and information on recovery for people who have contracted Covid-19.

The aim is to gradually enable them to move safely in the European Union or abroad - for work or tourism," she said in a tweet.

EU leaders agreed last week to work on vaccine certificates, for which southern countries such as Spain and Greece are pushing to unlock tourism this summer.

However, a number of countries say it will first need to be established that vaccinated people cannot transmit the virus to others.

Some countries, such as France and Belgium, also expressed concern that easing travel only for inoculated people would be unfair.

The Commission said it would seek to avoid discrimination against citizens who have not received a vaccine.

EU countries agreed in January on the basic data requirements of a vaccination certificate. A Commission spokesman said the EU executive would seek to coordinate on security standards and help connect the national health systems.“”

This is all so strange considering the tone from our government in their message last week

UK and EU talking about summer holidays . We are talking about handshakes and hugs being allowed going forward

Geuze wrote: »

Hold on a minute now.

I don't think the vaccination is linked to whether you have a:

(1) full GMS card
(2) GP visit card (all over 70s)
(3) you pay yourself

The GPs are being paid well for this, 60 euro per person, so what is the story here?

No, the vaccination really has nothing to do with the medical card. But the HSE may have contacted all GPs who have medical card patients to get them up and running on it.

Afaik, GPs don't have to take part in the programme, they can't be forced to do so. The over-70s are entitled to get the vaccine, but their GP doesn't have to give it to them. So anyone who falls into this situation has to arrange vaccination outside of their GP.

In the case of my FIL, the GP claims to have no medical card patients. So reading between the lines, I think he can't be bothered getting trained up/registered to give out the vaccine and is instead telling his patients they'll get it when the public mass vaccination centres are up and running.

cameramonkey wrote: »

According to many our vaccination roll out is only limited by supply. Interesting looking at the amount of vaccinations over a full week that our supply problems seem to correspond with the weekends
,amazing coincidence.

How is that an 'amazing coincidence'?
Supply arrives early in week, used by end of week. It's fairly simple stuff.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

How is that an 'amazing coincidence'?
Supply arrives early in week, used by end of week. It's fairly simple stuff.

To be fair, if you didn't know that you would think that there are just less vaccinations done on the weekend because there are less people working.

When we get up to higher volumes, more frequent deliveries can be done to maintain a smoother level of supply and a more constant level of vaccinations. But for now a weekly cycle is fine.

cameramonkey wrote: »

What day does it arrive, have you got the schedule?

I don't have the schedule - they've said thats how it works

cameramonkey wrote: »

I am just saying it looks like they are working less at the weekend. This is a pandemic and I dont think cost is really an issue where overtime is concerned. Maybe they have run out of vaccines by the weekend because as one poster said that supplies arrive on Monday. The government said that there would be 100000 vaccinated last week so they must have had a detailed inventory of what was coming into the country to make such a prediction. I suppose when we see the numbers for the weekend just gone we can make a more informed comment on what is happening and if the issue is supply or the issue is work practices.Hopefully they will have reached their 100000 prediction .

Hopefully they have. If they were already flat out working at the weekend, then it wouldn't seem to suggest that they would have much capacity to react when supplies increase. Cost should always be a factor, waste is always waste.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/01/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

US begining to roll out J&J (Jansen) vaccine, yet we have to wait until April. I thought that the EU leaders were under pressure because of our slow roll out. Not enough to do anything it seems. Depressing.

timsey tiger wrote: »

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/01/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

US begining to roll out J&J (Jansen) vaccine, yet we have to wait until April. I thought that the EU leaders were under pressure because of our slow roll out. Not enough to do anything it seems. Depressing.

J&J had already indicated deliveries in Europe won't start until April anyway.

It could be approved tomorrow for example and it wouldn't speed anything up.

As it stands approval is expected next week

seamus wrote: »

In the case of my FIL, the GP claims to have no medical card patients. So reading between the lines, I think he can't be bothered getting trained up/registered to give out the vaccine and is instead telling his patients they'll get it when the public mass vaccination centres are up and running.

I always presumed that very, very few GPs would not have a GMS contract.

Like maybe 1 in a thousand.

Perhaps in Foxrock, etc.

Geuze wrote: »

I always presumed that very, very few GPs would not have a GMS contract.

Like maybe 1 in a thousand.

Perhaps in Foxrock, etc.

I know of two locally. They're Polish doctors working mostly with Polish patients. Used to attend one but they don't do the under 6 card for kids so we moved practices.