Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

I see they’ve added a few more obscure countries to the “ 14 day mandatory quarantine at home”.

Quarantine at home ya know. What a joke

Turtwig wrote: »

They very much did miss the spirit of what Seamus was saying. As have you. Seamus was replying to the implication that people on 300k+ were having an easy time at it in lockdown. That's bit a like assuming people with money can't experience depression or other problems. We would expect them to have an easier time at it during lockdown but money is not a guarantee of wealth in the most important of forms. Lockdown and the loneliness may just as easily impact them as others. It may even impact some more severely. We have no way or really knowing. To assume people not on covid support payments or on income over 200k are not suffering because their financial position is better is naive in the extreme.

Empathy runs both ways and nuance is actual position one can take. Seamus's point did miss the mark. So too did many of the responses to his post.

Oh please. I certainly did not miss the spirit of it... or to call it what it really is - his point. People on 300k can be depressed and suffer too - of course they can. I guarantee you no one missed it and everyone already knew it. It is hardly a groundbreaking piece of thinking, is it?

The point everyone else was making is that it's better for you, in such a situation, if you have your own garden to sit and be depressed in that, than stuck in a box room with three other house-mates who like to have dozens of friends over every weekend. It's better for you if one of the things you don't have to worry about is finding your rent every month out of your PUP payments.

Yes the people on €300k deserve their money - they've worked hard to get there and delighted for them the rest of us all are... but while they may experience similar covid-related angst to the rest of us, they do not need to handle an almost unbearable level of financial pressure to make rent or feed kids or worse - both.

That is one very large problem that is certainly not on the plate of the wealthy. And financial pressure is, arguably, the greatest cause of depression and suicide in the modern world.

Again. His point was clumsy, condescending and ill-thought-through. Most people on this website will not be on 300k. Should he apologise for his sloppy comments? No, of course not. But he should certainly think a little more before he makes them. He's being either tone deaf or deliberately incendiary.

#CirclingWagonsMakeMeLaugh

Stheno wrote: »

You were on about shoes last week

I don't mean to be harsh but if you were short on clothes/shoes could you not have bought them in December when we were told there was going to be restrictions in Jan?

It’s nearly March though

December was a long time ago

Stheno wrote: »

You were on about shoes last week

I don't mean to be harsh but if you were short on clothes/shoes could you not have bought them in December when we were told there was going to be restrictions in Jan?

Not everyone orders their Spring wardrobe in Winter, you know!

bodhrandude wrote: »

I'd say health and safety would be through the roof if it went ahead, possibly security enforcing social distancing just to be on the safe side, I reckon they might have to cut the capacity too.

What about the bubbles for the gigs?
Saw something about it at a gig in the Olympia .
Looks a bit hot though

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Have needles and thread. But I need a patch.

Cut out some of the inside pocket , and if no pockets use a flowery tea towel!

I am not blaming university students, as I have been accused of, but this is fact. They happen to have been one group to have admitted it themselves:

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/news/612631/listen-rte-presenter-shocked-at-cavalier-attitude-of-limerick-students-towards-covid-19.html

In a way, I get where they're coming from. If they all catch it and contain themselves on campus, no problem, as long as they stay on campus. That is the problem. If even one of them goes to the local Spar, that's a different story.

maebee wrote: »

I am not blaming university students, as I have been accused of, but this is fact. They happen to have been one group to have admitted it themselves:

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/news/612631/listen-rte-presenter-shocked-at-cavalier-attitude-of-limerick-students-towards-covid-19.html

In a way, I get where they're coming from. If they all catch it and contain themselves on campus, no problem, as long as they stay on campus. That is the problem. If even one of them goes to the local Spar, that's a different story.

As a student living at home, who hasn't been on campus in over a year, this segment boiled my blood.

This group of students are completely idiotic in their logic. The virus won't discern if you have just "10 or 15" people, or if they're "close friends".

Also saying they're "watching that the cases don't go out of hand"...hmm, I wonder how the virus spreads and cases increase?

It's laughable hearing them say that they're not going home or spreading it - there are multiple shops and takeaways in the area near these estates, it's virtually guaranteed that the virus spreads in the community directly or indirectly due to their recklessness.

CoronaBlocker wrote: »

Oh please. I certainly did not miss the spirit of it... or to call it what it really is - his point. People on 300k can be depressed and suffer too - of course they can. I guarantee you no one missed it and everyone already knew it. It is hardly a groundbreaking piece of thinking, is it?

The point everyone else was making is that it's better for you, in such a situation, if you have your own garden to sit and be depressed in that, than stuck in a box room with three other house-mates who like to have dozens of friends over every weekend. It's better for you if one of the things you don't have to worry about is finding your rent every month out of your PUP payments.

Yes the people on €300k deserve their money - they've worked hard to get there and delighted for them the rest of us all are... but while they may experience similar covid-related angst to the rest of us, they do not need to handle an almost unbearable level of financial pressure to make rent or feed kids or worse - both.

That is one very large problem that is certainly not on the plate of the wealthy. And financial pressure is, arguably, the greatest cause of depression and suicide in the modern world.

Again. His point was clumsy, condescending and ill-thought-through. Most people on this website will not be on 300k. Should he apologise for his sloppy comments? No, of course not. But he should certainly think a little more before he makes them. He's being either tone deaf or deliberately incendiary.

#CirclingWagonsMakeMeLaugh

You did the miss of the spirit of it and I don't feel you're quite understanding it yet either.

The original context was he replying to a poster who said it was very easy for Mr Reid to complain about the actions of others when he was living a different life to them. The point that you seem to be partially acknowledging but not quite going all the way is that we have no idea how easy or difficult anyone's life is. To assume that lockdown is easy for Holohan or Reid is a very dangerous assumption. We don't know anything about their life.

Probably hear tomorrow about the party broken up on the grand canal in dublin