Seems like a good deal on firewood....

Bass Reeves · 22-02-2021 11:51AM

ablelocks wrote: »

co-op superstores have this online @ €189 (€50 delivery though)

Crate of Kiln Dried Beech Logs 430kg
Kiln-dried beech logs are perfect and ready to use in most stoves and fireplaces. Product is made from FSC certified wood from well managed forests in EU. The moisture content of Beech Log is less than 20% and log length less than 25cm. Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97M. Volume of Firewood 0.80M

edit : Limerick store has 2 of these for €360 and an 850kg crate for €349 :-

I think some one put up earlier in the thread that the centers are wet. If you could buy and open pallet and leave in an open shed to dry they be grand next winter. Small trailer would allow you to collect

bogman · 22-02-2021 07:36PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I think some one put up earlier in the thread that the centers are wet. If you could buy and open pallet and leave in an open shed to dry they be grand next winter. Small trailer would allow you to collect

Timber is like a sponge, Kiln dried timber has a MC of around 7-10%, leave this outside and the MC will increase to between 20-25% over the winter I guess.

Sasso · 23-02-2021 11:39AM

Moisture metres in Aldi this Thursday 25/02 for €12 for those interested

https://www.aldi.ie/ferrex-moisture-sensor/p/803173437477202

blindsider · 23-02-2021 12:22PM

They also have a stove fan for €25 for all you freestanding stove owners.

Mine is inset so :-(

OmegaGene · 23-02-2021 12:46PM

are the fans any good ?

Bass Reeves · 23-02-2021 03:04PM

OmegaGene wrote: »

are the fans any good ?

I have a stove fan a d it definately helps to heat the room faster and more evenly than without it. However if you are letting the stove go out later in the night it's a good idea to remove fan from stove

Muahahaha · 23-02-2021 04:55PM

Sasso wrote: »

Moisture metres in Aldi this Thursday 25/02 for €12 for those interested

https://www.aldi.ie/ferrex-moisture-sensor/p/803173437477202

For anyone buying keep your receipt, my one from Aldi stopped taking readings after a year. Brought it back under the 3 year warranty and got a refund with no problems

blindsider · 23-02-2021 05:05PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

For anyone buying keep your receipt, my one from Aldi stopped taking readings after a year. Brought it back under the 3 year warranty and got a refund with no problems

Always worth doing with esp. electrical items - they're very good to honour the warranty!

Firblog · 23-02-2021 10:36PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have a stove fan a d it definately helps to heat the room faster and more evenly than without it. However if you are letting the stove go out later in the night it's a good idea to remove fan from stove

Why so?

Bass Reeves · 23-02-2021 11:20PM

Firblog wrote: »

Why so?

As at that stage it start to create a draft as the air cools

vicwatson · 24-02-2021 12:24AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

As at that stage it start to create a draft as the air cools

But does it not just stop moving when the heat dissipates?

Bass Reeves · 24-02-2021 01:55AM

vicwatson wrote: »

But does it not just stop moving when the heat dissipates?

It dose but it takes time I just find as the stove cooks down it can create a draft like effect

Scruff · 26-02-2021 04:43PM

Scruff wrote: »

€350 for 1.8m3 kiln dried oak delivered (probably external measurements)
works out at €195/m3 delivered

https://eireecofuels.ie/product/kiln-dried-oak-firewood-double-pallet/

1.8m3 did indeed turn out to be the external dimensions of the pallet.
1.45m3 is the actual internal dimensions so price is really €241/m3 stacked delivered.

Will be trying truck/trailer loads in future methinks..

Fighting Tao · 26-02-2021 05:07PM

good one wrote: »

Dundalk Area

Burnwise.ie
or pick up from EK Fuels on Armagh Rd (R177) AKA Lisdoo Rd.

Kiln Dried Hardwood

2m3 380euro
1.3m3 240euro
1m3 200euro

Free delivery nationwide

I got a few bags of ash to try them out. They claim to be <20% but they seem to be about 24% moisture.

Do you know anything about the guy on the old Dublin road that is selling kiln dried bags?

Muahahaha · 26-02-2021 08:50PM

Scruff wrote: »

1.8m3 did indeed turn out to be the external dimensions of the pallet.
1.45m3 is the actual internal dimensions so price is really €241/m3 stacked delivered.

Will be trying truck/trailer loads in future methinks..

Its a fair whack off, by my calculation the difference between the external and internal dimensions there is just over 20%. I've still to measure my own 2m3 crate internally before I break it down for kindling but would expect similar numbers. The pallet base alone is about 20cms in height so you're already down a bit on that.

I think if you have the storage space then buying in bulk by the trailer load is the way to go. There is a fair saving on price when buying it in that kind of bulk and would definitely work out good bit cheaper than 241/m3. Question though is can you get trailer loads of kiln dried oak or ash? Maybe theyre out there but anytime Ive seen trailer loads advertised it seems to be locally grown softwoods like pine.

bogman wrote: »

Timber is like a sponge, Kiln dried timber has a MC of around 7-10%, leave this outside and the MC will increase to between 20-25% over the winter I guess.

Just to confirm this I bought the Aldi moisture meter earlier today just to have it. I was topping up the indoor log store and did a few tests with it. Everything coming from the outside log store was around 20-24% moisture content. The few logs that were still indoors had been lying there for about a month and I checked three of them- the meter read them at 9.2%, 8.4% and one was as low as 6.3%. So they're clearly getting a lot drier when left indoors for a few weeks before burning.

Cloudio9 · 27-02-2021 12:57PM

The moisture meter is only testing the surface of the wood. Moisture won’t penetrate hard wood that is sheltered outdoors and having it indoors is not going to make a difference to anything other than the surface.

skydish79 · 27-02-2021 02:14PM

We are cutting down trees at the minute

- Is it best leave the wood out in the open from now until September
- Then move it indoor over the winter

Bogwoppit · 27-02-2021 03:41PM

skydish79 wrote: »

We are cutting down trees at the minute

- Is it best leave the wood out in the open from now until September
- Then move it indoor over the winter

The sooner you get it split and under cover the better.

Scruff · 01-03-2021 12:46PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

I think if you have the storage space then buying in bulk by the trailer load is the way to go. There is a fair saving on price when buying it in that kind of bulk and would definitely work out good bit cheaper than 241/m3. Question though is can you get trailer loads of kiln dried oak or ash? Maybe theyre out there but anytime Ive seen trailer loads advertised it seems to be locally grown softwoods like pine.

That's the big problem, only softwoods from what i can find from commercial suppliers that do truck loads. Only other hope is donedeal/adverts for farmers or people clearing land and then ye dont really know what you are getting. If sustainability is a factor in your purchasing decision then best skip the private suppliers altogether. I've a great drying shed so seasoning myself isnt a problem, it sourcing.

Connolly saw mills will do truck loads of kiln dried hardwood but they only take off the cost of the delivery if you order the equivalent of 3 x 1 ton bags and you need to be within 20km. So not much of a saving there.

blindsider · 01-03-2021 11:58PM

Years ago, we used to be able to buy a tree and my father, his workmate and 2 kids would go up to the wood for a day. We'd fell 2 trees and split them into lengths, load them on a big trailer and divide them 50/50 for the 2 houses.

Dad's workmate would bring a shotgun and we'd have a few pops each at crows and rats - sworn to secrecy!

Over the next week, we'd split them further at home, and stack them in the shed 6 months before we'd need them. Good times.

I suppose you can't do that nowadays...buy a tree and then fell it yourself?

philboy · 12-03-2021 04:38PM

Hi Guys,
I got a few pallets of coal and a double pallet of Hornbeam wood from Coal Warehouse last month. We split the wood amongst three households and we've noticed over the passed two weeks a large amount or red bettles or Lilly beetles coming out from the wood.

Have any of you purchased the Hornbeam and noticed this?

kil · 12-03-2021 05:16PM

philboy wrote: »

Hi Guys,
I got a few pallets of coal and a double pallet of Hornbeam wood from Coal Warehouse last month. We split the wood amongst three households and we've noticed over the passed two weeks a large amount or red bettles or Lilly beetles coming out from the wood.

Have any of you purchased the Hornbeam and noticed this?

I got a pallet of oak from Dairygold Co-op and the sample happened. Never happened me before, freaked the **** out of me - I went through the wood at a rapid rate just to get of them. I don't think it affects the burning performance.
Would we worth giving the feedback to Coal Warehouse.

philboy · 12-03-2021 05:33PM

kil wrote: »

I got a pallet of oak from Dairygold Co-op and the sample happened. Never happened me before, freaked the **** out of me - I went through the wood at a rapid rate just to get of them. I don't think it affects the burning performance.
Would we worth giving the feedback to Coal Warehouse.

I did indeed give the feedback to them and they said that the supplier hasn't noticed any insects. They also said they contacted someone who also buys wood from that supplier and he also hasn't had any issues.

I said I would check here to see if anyone else came across the issue.

Were the beetles in your wood the same as the ones in my picture?

vicwatson · 12-03-2021 06:29PM

philboy wrote: »

I did indeed give the feedback to them and they said that the supplier hasn't noticed any insects. They also said they contacted someone who also buys wood from that supplier and he also hasn't had any issues.

I said I would check here to see if anyone else came across the issue.

Were the beetles in your wood the same as the ones in my picture?

Picture?

philboy · 12-03-2021 06:37PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Picture?

Apologies, here is the picture

aw · 12-03-2021 08:16PM

philboy wrote: »

Apologies, here is the picture

Looks like Pyrrhidium sanguineum - 'Longhorn beetle'

See some of the reported sightings on this page, looks similar.
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/species-dictionary/NBNSYS0000011041/pyrrhidium-sanguineum

Fond of hanging out in wood.

laros · 13-03-2021 08:21AM

Apologies, here is the picture

If its a potential Alien species try get a decent picture and contact Bio diversity Ireland to record the sighting , kill them as you find them. I had a similar problem in work a few years ago with vans coming from England for refurbishment and finding colonies of Harlequin Ladybirds behind the fittings on the vans.
https://records.biodiversityireland.ie/record/invasives#7/53.455/-8.016

vicwatson · 13-03-2021 09:00AM

philboy wrote: »

Apologies, here is the picture

Did the wood seller say where the timber originated?

philboy · 13-03-2021 09:52AM

The wood is from Latvia originally

Muahahaha · 13-03-2021 03:58PM

Is the beetle native to Ireland anyway or only as an import?

Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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