Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

celt262 wrote: »

You know that is not happening it should be but its not.

We are in level 5 lockdown internally sucking up inconveniences for the greater good of Irelands health, yet this crap is allowed to happen time and time again.

Dempo1 wrote: »

Reid is insufferable, I just don't get how he's lasted ths lengh of time apart from the cost of getting rid of him. He led the charge at yesterday's PR ladened HSE press conference about all the alleged positivity whilst at the same time Liveline inundated with calls about cancellations of vacinne appointments and GP surgeries not even contacted or supplied vaccine.

As regards his absurd comments about people moving about, he hasn't been shy about popping up and down to his holiday pad in Leitrim, the hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Listening to him at the moment on morning Ireland, no hard questions and listening to him is annoying.

He only started just before this kicked off and he wanted the job in the first place.

rusty cole wrote: »

And yet...https://www-irishtimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/new-hse-chief-expected-to-receive-salary-of-just-over-300k-1.3844875?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&mode=amp&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16143307741983&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Fnew-hse-chief-expected-to-receive-salary-of-just-over-300k-1.3844875

This just about sums up everything that's wrong with the HSE.

Very easy to lecture people for being "out and about" when you live a completely different life to them.

darem93 wrote: »

This just about sums up everything that's wrong with the HSE.

Very easy to lecture people for being "out and about" when you live a completely different life to them.

Could you explain how that sums up everything that's wrong with the HSE?

seamus wrote: »

Apparently earning €300k makes lockdown easier.

100% true.

seamus wrote: »

Apparently earning €300k makes lockdown easier.

What a lot of people miss is that the politicians, NPHET, Paul Reid, all of these people also want things back to normal.

You can say Reid is lucky that he gets paid loads of money and gets to go out to work every day and talk to people.

But I can guarantee you that if you asked Reid or Micháel what he wants more than anything else, it's the ability to go see family & friends. To go out for a nice dinner with his wife. For his kids to go play with their mates. To go to the pub and have a few pints and talk bullsh1t. To go play a game of golf or go for a long cycle, or whatever it is he does.

I bet Dr. Holohan would have loved nothing more than to be surrounded by family and friends and to be able to celebrate his wife's life with everyone who knew her.

Lockdown is not made mentally or socially easier by having money.

It's no doubt easier to make decisions about closing the country when you don't have to worry about money, but that doesn't mean that it's any easier to tolerate.

Jesus of course it makes it easier . Do you have any idea whats going on in the world outside of your bubble ? Not mentally easier having money . Try having none and come back to me

seamus wrote: »

Lockdown is not made mentally or socially easier by having money.

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I agree with the spirit of what you're saying to a point except this part over does it. The fear of not having money to meet a person's needs can be huge stressor. It can be debilitating. That isn't to say people on higher incomes don't have this fear. It is a fear predominantly associated with lower incomes. Lockdown is made a lot easier if you have more financial discretion over what risks you need to take.

Finally from a covid centric point of view lower income households tend to have had higher levels of overall infection, severe illness and death. This pandemic from both a health and socioeconomic viewpoint has disproportionate ly affected lower income groups of society. Once it's over they will continue to experience to the worst knock on consequences.

seamus wrote: »

Apparently earning €300k makes lockdown easier.

What a lot of people miss is that the politicians, NPHET, Paul Reid, all of these people also want things back to normal.

You can say Reid is lucky that he gets paid loads of money and gets to go out to work every day and talk to people.

But I can guarantee you that if you asked Reid or Micháel what he wants more than anything else, it's the ability to go see family & friends. To go out for a nice dinner with his wife. For his kids to go play with their mates. To go to the pub and have a few pints and talk bullsh1t. To go play a game of golf or go for a long cycle, or whatever it is he does.

I bet Dr. Holohan would have loved nothing more than to be surrounded by family and friends and to be able to celebrate his wife's life with everyone who knew her.

Lockdown is not made mentally or socially easier by having money.

It's no doubt easier to make decisions about closing the country when you don't have to worry about money, but that doesn't mean that it's any easier to tolerate.

We are extremely lucky to have no money worries , no mortgage and no loans. We are acutely aware of people who are not so lucky and are struggling with rent , mortgage , bills , childrens needs etc
To say having enough income doesnt make lockdown easier is ridiculous .Of course it helps to be secure and no worries about paying bills or your business crumbling in front of you eyes ,
I hate lockdown , I hate the 5k restrictions , I hate not seeing my family and I hate feeling down but I know I am incredibly lucky not to have the added worry of not being able to pay my mortgage or feed my kids .

Morries Wigs wrote: »

people from the uk are still coming in to dublin without having to show pcr negative test results

And the proposal from the opposition to make the pcr test 5 days after arrival mandatory was vetoed.

Its mind boggling. Its like their whole approach to the pandemic is whatever is the common sense approach to something, lets just do the opposite.

seamus wrote: »

Lockdown is not made mentally or socially easier by having money.

Of course it is. I'm not rich but I have no money worries and a nice house with a big garden and enough room and equipment to pursue my usual hobbies to a reasonably satisfying degree. I have started a number of new hobbies and types of exercise in the last few months and I've been able to go online and buy the things I need for them with the money I have without having to stress or sacrifice. I'm easily able to afford to buy treats, takeout, pay for extra streaming services, buy a new Switch game for my kid, if we need something a bit 'exciting' when we're hitting a funk. I'm still beyond ready for lockdown to be over and can't wait to get back to many of my favourite parts of my normal life but I have it a lot, lot easier than people who have smaller homes, no garden, can't afford to buy things that make this easier and especially those who are stressed about how to pay the next bill.

If I was wealthier and had a bigger house with a pool, a gym, rooms dedicated to my hobbies and the specialist equipment in my garden I fantasise about, I'd be having an even better time. Would I be 100% satisfied? No? Would I still miss the things I miss now? Of course because we're social creatures, we need our family and friends. Are there days when a poorer person in an apartment is having a better time than a wealthier person in a big house they've designed to accommodate so many of their needs? Absolutely, life is never as straightforward as money and things making everything good. But that doesn't change the absolute fact that what you have at home, where you live and whether or not money is a source of stress can make things easier or harder, especially when your external outlets are gone.

Claire Byrne is shameless

Going on about Irish Times poll about people wanting yk get back to normal after vulnerable are vaccinated

Asking "is that dangerous"

seamus wrote: »

Apparently earning €300k makes lockdown easier.

What a lot of people miss is that the politicians, NPHET, Paul Reid, all of these people also want things back to normal.

You can say Reid is lucky that he gets paid loads of money and gets to go out to work every day and talk to people.

But I can guarantee you that if you asked Reid or Micháel what he wants more than anything else, it's the ability to go see family & friends. To go out for a nice dinner with his wife. For his kids to go play with their mates. To go to the pub and have a few pints and talk bullsh1t. To go play a game of golf or go for a long cycle, or whatever it is he does.

I bet Dr. Holohan would have loved nothing more than to be surrounded by family and friends and to be able to celebrate his wife's life with everyone who knew her.

Lockdown is not made mentally or socially easier by having money.

It's no doubt easier to make decisions about closing the country when you don't have to worry about money, but that doesn't mean that it's any easier to tolerate.

Load of old rubbish. Of course you would find lockdown much easier if you
1: were still earning a good salary
2: were living in a decent house with an isolated back garden.
Reminds me of early in the pandemic when celebrities were the first to start whinging about the whole situation.
You had Ricky Gervais doing a daily podcast of how crap it was for him in his mansion, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears constantly whinging how brutal it was them in their villas not being able to go out, but we were all in this together.
And that celebrity Zoom Imagine song.
Disgusting behaviour.






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KrustyUCC wrote: »

Claire Byrne is shameless

Going on about Irish Times poll about people wanting yk get back to normal after vulnerable are vaccinated

Asking "is that dangerous"

How do you know it is not dangerous?
"It wasn't dangerous" to open up for a few weeks before Christmas to let people do their Christmas shopping. Yet two weeks later we had the worst death figures in Europe per capita and are still paying the consequences.

Nigerian variant now discovered in Ireland were fcuked