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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #932
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Eh that was the 'Make FG and Leo look great' spin unit.

    At least it existed tbh


  • #933
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    If you run an online business while renting during work from home restrictions is that classified as commercial?


  • #934
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    speckle wrote: »
    If you run an online business while renting during work from home restrictions is that classified as commercial?

    Not that I am.aware of, its basically.working from home


  • #935
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    At least it existed tbh

    The units sole purpose was to spin on behalf of the then FG government, propaganda is not beneficial to wider society.


  • #936
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.


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  • #937
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Cracks appearing.....https://www.independent.ie/news/senior-fine-gael-figures-launch-scathing-attack-on-taoiseachs-appalling-handling-of-pandemic-40128826.html


  • #938
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Has this appeared anywhere else than Gript?

    Not that I can see as yet. They have this scoop and are running with it, similar to the Village getting the Leo scoop.

    More information from them now, including emails and correspondence in screenshots. Suggesting they were deceiving politicians and parties.

    https://gript.ie/revealed-how-zero-covid-activists-deceived-politicians/


  • #939
    Stheno
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.

    No it doesn't imo

    That 16 yo could have died in December given that the deaths today included December and January

    People including me are becoming desensitised to such things tbh

    Its like when I was a kid in the 80s with famine in.Africa or the troubles in the North


  • #940
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Not that I can see as yet. They have this scoop and are running with it, similar to the Village getting the Leo scoop.

    More information from them now, including emails and correspondence in screenshots. Suggesting they were deceiving politicians and parties.

    https://gript.ie/revealed-how-zero-covid-activists-deceived-politicians/
    Wow!!


  • #941
    James 701
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭James 701


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Cracks appearing.....

    The silenced majority are starting to break through the happy RTE lockdown narrative. Come on


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  • #942
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Cracks appearing.....https://www.independent.ie/news/senior-fine-gael-figures-launch-scathing-attack-on-taoiseachs-appalling-handling-of-pandemic-40128826.html

    Inevitable imo

    Martin stepping aside might be a good idea

    The man exudes panic and rabbit in headlines every time he speaks


  • #943
    James 701
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭James 701


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.

    My God. Is this what you people have to resort to.


  • #944
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Some people thrive on misery.


  • #945
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Stheno wrote: »
    Inevitable imo

    Martin stepping aside might be a good idea

    The man exudes panic and rabbit in headlines every time he speaks

    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.


  • #946
    Stheno
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    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.

    He also said last year that non essential retail being closed was silly


  • #947
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.

    A politician flip flopping? You surprised?


  • #948
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Some people thrive on misery.

    How will they cope when this ends which it inevitably will, I wonder.


  • #949
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Some people thrive on misery.


    Some people do not want more deaths, but they'll get shouted down here. You might as well be a peace campaigner in the republican pub circa 1980.


  • #950
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Stheno wrote: »

    Its like when I was a kid in the 80s with famine in.Africa or the troubles in the North

    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.


  • #951
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.

    You can give your vaccine to Africa if you and stay in lockdown for longer than needed if you want

    Europe needs to helps it's own citizens first

    Then worry about others


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  • #952
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.

    Is Ghana in Africa?https://www.thejournal.ie/ghana-first-country-covax-covid-vaccines-5364191-Feb2021/


  • #953
    Ace2007
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Is Ghana in Africa?https://www.thejournal.ie/ghana-first-country-covax-covid-vaccines-5364191-Feb2021/

    Yea Ghana became the first country in Africa, but many others wont' get the vaccine till much later in the year...
    Some countries such as South Africa and Zimbabwe have begun vaccination programmes, but many others will have to wait until later in the year for stocks to arrive.

    There has been global competition to get hold of vaccines, and African countries have generally not been as successful as richer countries in securing supplies.

    "It is deeply unjust that the most vulnerable Africans are forced to wait for vaccines while lower-risk groups in rich countries are made safe," says Matshidiso Moeti, the World Health Organization (WHO) regional director for Africa.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/56100076

    The west buying up more Vaccines than they need, while the poor suffer... it never ends, whether it's food or medical who cares about Africa, as long as the West can get on with their lives eh?


  • #954
    KrustyUCC
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    Get back to us when everybody in the west has been vaccinated


  • #955
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Yea Ghana became the first country in Africa, but many others wont' get the vaccine till much later in the year...



    https://www.bbc.com/news/56100076

    The west buying up more Vaccines than they need, while the poor suffer... it never ends, whether it's food or medical who cares about Africa, as long as the West can get on with their lives eh?
    I'm sure the "west" will be donating unneeded surplus.

    I'm also sure that if the "West" didn't buy up the vaccine the production capacity we have now for vaccine wouldn't be there. Instead there would be less vaccine in the world.


  • #956
    Psychedelic Hedgehog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The units sole purpose was to spin on behalf of the then FG government, propaganda is not beneficial to wider society.

    I don't know, and I'm no fan of FG, but communications from the government in place seemed a lot clearer this time last year than they do now. Perhaps it was money well spent in order to ensure a clear message was disseminated, that we're now missing.


  • #957
    Plumbthedepths
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Yea Ghana became the first country in Africa, but many others wont' get the vaccine till much later in the year...



    https://www.bbc.com/news/56100076

    The west buying up more Vaccines than they need, while the poor suffer... it never ends, whether it's food or medical who cares about Africa, as long as the West can get on with their lives eh?

    The EU is contributing 1 billion to Covax for the purchase of vaccines for poorer nations, not sure what you are at but you don't seem willing to do some research before making a ridiculous claim. I've already shown your first claim was wrong.
    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_690


  • #958
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I'm sure the "west" will be donating unneeded surplus.

    I'm also sure that if the "West" didn't buy up the vaccine the production capacity we have now for vaccine wouldn't be there. Instead there would be less vaccine in the world.

    Do you not think its moral and ethical wrong that young fit and healthy people in the West get vaccines while the sick and vulnerable who are most likely sick and vulnerable due to failures of man kind over decades have to wait?

    Your hoping that they donate them, but they haven't come out and said that they will - why is that? Why not pledge the vaccines now - is it maybe a case that they order more just to wait and see if they will nearly years boosters of the jab. And if that turns out to be the case, what then for African countries? is it again sure, that we don't care?


  • #959
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Cracks appearing.....https://www.independent.ie/news/senior-fine-gael-figures-launch-scathing-attack-on-taoiseachs-appalling-handling-of-pandemic-40128826.html

    Love this. Both parties are completely deplorable but Fine Gaels more modern snakes have a better sense for optics.

    Martin has all the respect of a substitute teacher.


  • #960
    Plumbthedepths
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    Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »
    I don't know, and I'm no fan of FG, but communications from the government in place seemed a lot clearer this time last year than they do now. Perhaps it was money well spent in order to ensure a clear message was disseminated, that we're now missing.

    You had a single party government last year, less idiots willing to blurt out BS whenever in the presence of a microphone.


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  • #961
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.

    Great news today about these known variants not significantly impacting vaccines.

    Hey! do you have a passport? might not be a bad idea to get out of the house when this is all done and see a bit of the world.


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