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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Stheno wrote: »
    Was 600 in hospital the optimistic projection by the end of the month?

    It was the revised downwards optimistic figure. Previous optimistic figure was 800


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,215 ✭✭✭prunudo


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm today

    Total 597 (down from 642 last night)
    ICU 135 (down from 149 last night)

    Lowest total number since 1 Jan.

    If the current reduction continues at the same rate hospital numbers will be very low come Easter. Wonder will they be forced to open construction earlier or will they find another reason to be concerned and cautious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Churches were putting ashes in Envelops and letting people pick them up, some were put in Envelops in letter boxes.

    thanks clever idea
    Ace2007 wrote: »
    For someone to ask that question in the Dail is some joke and shows just how poor the level of politics has got to in this country - petty little things.
    well its important to the pensioner who might be evicted and to everybody else if they are sayimg the 5km cant be increased for at least 6 weeks or more as it is tied to the moratuim on evictions. So it either is or isnt? Politics in the main has been at a poor level in this country for many a year ..I can agree on that most certainly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    Was 600 in hospital the optimistic projection by the end of the month?

    Latest NPHET letter has 500-600


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Latest NPHET letter has 500-600

    goal posts moving?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    titan18 wrote: »

    Unreal story

    Unfortunately not surprising


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    prunudo wrote: »
    If the current reduction continues at the same rate hospital numbers will be very low come Easter. Wonder will they be forced to open construction earlier or will they find another reason to be concerned and cautious.

    It must be a great relief for the health service personnel to see that reduction, to be vaccinated and seeing the end in sight. They have had a rotten 12 months at the front line particularly at the start when they did not know how bad it could be.

    We will rightfully argue about the economy, timing of reopening, poor communication by Govt., and who was to blame for Christmas etc etc but full credit to them. My hope is that this is a springboard to a sustainable and well funded health service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    speckle wrote: »
    goal posts moving?

    Revised predictions

    They also revised cases predictions

    The letter says that even if the population work to keep the R number below 1, there could still be 400-500 cases a day by the end of this month and 200-350 a day by mid-March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    prunudo wrote: »
    If the current reduction continues at the same rate hospital numbers will be very low come Easter. Wonder will they be forced to open construction earlier or will they find another reason to be concerned and cautious.

    Yeah by holding back now they should actually have more wiggle room in April. This is assuming schools don't mess everything up. Spread of the new variant in children is very much the wild card here. As England are going ahead with a more rapid opening of schools we should be able to benefit from that and adjust accordingly if needs be. Hopefully that will not be necessary for either country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    speckle wrote: »
    thanks clever idea


    well its important to the pensioner who might be evicted and to everybody else if they are sayimg the 5km cant be increased for at least 6 weeks or more as it is tied to the moratuim on evictions. So it either is or isnt? Politics in the main has been at a poor level in this country for many a year ..I can agree on that most certainly.

    In most of these cases, there could be more to the story than what they are saying though. For instance it's not a blanket moratorium on evictions that many believe. There are instances that you can be evicted.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    A bit of hope
    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has indicated for the first time that Level 5 restrictions on outdoor activity, sport, construction and remaining within 5km of home could be eased on Easter Monday, April 5th.

    In what was received as a move to provide a tangible date, Mr Martin told the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party on Wednesday night that those four areas would be examined before Easter, in tandem with the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet).

    The clarification on this issue means if the advice from Nphet on the metrics were favourable, the first steps to a wider reopening of society from lockdown would commence at the beginning of April rather than later in the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope

    I'll believe it when I see it

    He needs to get past NPHET first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Rezident




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    I'll believe it when I see it

    He needs to get past NPHET first

    I genuinely believe March is a pivotal month between cases/hospitalisations dropping and vaccines completing for healthcare workers and nursing home residents

    24th March could look very different to today

    Caveat is the impact of school reopening though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    In most of these cases, there could be more to the story than what they are saying though. For instance it's not a blanket moratorium on evictions that many believe. There are instances that you can be evicted.

    would you list or have a link to the exceptions thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope

    Communication remains a shambles so - completely unclear about this yesterday when addressing the nation and clarifies/changes the message this evening when talking to the FF parliamentary party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    speckle wrote: »
    would you list or have a link to the exceptions thanks

    From citizens advice.

    unless the notice to quit is for the following reasons:

    Anti-social behaviour
    Acting in a way that would invalidate a house insurance policy
    Acting in a way that would cause substantial damage to the accommodation
    Using the accommodation for commercial or other non-residential purposes

    Tbh I would take any politician grandstanding with a hefty pinch of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Rezident wrote: »

    From reading that it sounds like they dont wait the 15 minutes post shot?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    speckle wrote: »
    would you list or have a link to the exceptions thanks

    From Citizens information
    If your landlord has given you a valid notice to quit (also called an eviction notice), the notice is paused while these restrictions are in place, and also for a further 10 days after the restrictions are lifted, unless the notice to quit is for the following reasons:

    Anti-social behaviourActing in a way that would invalidate a house insurance policyActing in a way that would cause substantial damage to the accommodationUsing the accommodation for commercial or other non-residential purposes

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/tenancies_and_covid19.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Maxface


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope




    Great though that he is telling his party that this may be the case, the public can live off of second hand information. I know they have numerous highly paid advisors and at least one of them must be familiar with effective communication. I really can't understand it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope

    Would be nice if they put hairdressers into that group too. I fail to see how it's not a safe activity with masks, social distancing between customers etc and good ventilation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    From citizens advice.

    I would take any politician grandstanding with a hefty pinch of salt.

    So do I ;)

    But I think it is important for ordinary citzens to know there are exceptions...thanks for the prompt replys

    Edit...thanks also stheno and Ace2007


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Communication remains a shambles so - completely unclear about this yesterday when addressing the nation and clarifies/changes the message this evening when talking to the FF parliamentary party

    See tonight's opinion poll?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Maxface wrote: »
    Great though that he is telling his party that this may be the case, the public can live off of second hand information. I know they have numerous highly paid advisors and at least one of them must be familiar with effective communication. I really can't understand it.

    Eh you do know that there was a Strategic communications department that Ff got rid of last year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Stheno wrote: »
    See tonight's opinion poll?

    Poll was taken on Monday and Tuesday. Would be interested to see whether the results changed after release of the plan yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope


    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has indicated for the first time that Level 5 restrictions on outdoor activity, sport, construction and remaining within 5km of home could be eased on Easter Monday, April 5th.

    In what was received as a move to provide a tangible date, Mr Martin told the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party on Wednesday night that those four areas would be examined before Easter, in tandem with the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet).

    The clarification on this issue means if the advice from Nphet on the metrics were favourable, the first steps to a wider reopening of society from lockdown would commence at the beginning of April rather than later in the month.

    Can you imagine the outpouring of people into the world on the 5th of April and after. I'm going nowhere until all the really enthusiastic feckers get tired :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    speckle wrote: »
    would you list or have a link to the exceptions thanks

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/tenancies_and_covid19.html#l1bd92
    If your landlord has given you a valid notice to quit (also called an eviction notice), the notice is paused while these restrictions are in place, and also for a further 10 days after the restrictions are lifted, unless the notice to quit is for the following reasons:

    Anti-social behaviour
    Acting in a way that would invalidate a house insurance policy
    Acting in a way that would cause substantial damage to the accommodation
    Using the accommodation for commercial or other non-residential purposes


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Can you imagine the outpouring of people into the world on the 5th of April and after. I'm going nowhere until all the really enthusiastic feckers get tired :pac:

    Well I'd like to go to Howth grab a coffee and walk the pier with my new dog

    I'll use up a holiday day to.avoid going on the weekend :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    Eh you do know that there was a Strategic communications department that Ff got rid of last year?

    Eh that was the 'Make FG and Leo look great' spin unit.


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