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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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    #3212
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Tbh I think that there is good money in rearing heifer calves and selling the surplus as calved milkers- you’ll have far superior genetics and it allows you to choose the nicer more productive and efficient to keep
    I’m even going serving 40 Angus heifers with the best genetics from my herd


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    #3213
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Heifer calves are good money this year I believe? Have a few extra here to sell
    What are you expecting for them ? Sold 15 heifers calves last week think I may have let them off 2 cheap


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    #3214
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Say my name wrote: »
    You're too late!! :D

    Bought em off an old workplace of yours.

    Ah good stuff, you'd have to go a fair distance to get anything nearly as good as those


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    #3215
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    What are you expecting for them ? Sold 15 heifers calves last week think I may have let them off 2 cheap

    Good heifer calves are making 7-800 euro


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    #3216
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    stanflt wrote: »
    Good heifer calves are making 7-800 euro
    Would have been a more comerial type animal than your working with I would think


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    #3217
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    stanflt wrote: »
    Tbh I think that there is good money in rearing heifer calves and selling the surplus as calved milkers- you’ll have far superior genetics and it allows you to choose the nicer more productive and efficient to keep
    I’m even going serving 40 Angus heifers with the best genetics from my herd

    Yes ideally but that's a big draw on cash and no one knows what the heifer market will be like in 2 years time
    Still rearing a few extra so will still have a choice


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    #3218
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Would have been a more comerial type animal than your working with I would think


    Mine are commercial high ebi animals- no different to x Breds etc in terms of fertility or solids


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    #3219
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Yes ideally but that's a big draw on cash and no one knows what the heifer market will be like in 2 years time
    Still rearing a few extra so will still have a choice

    The aim next year is to have one female calf to every cow number- so that will be 1.7replacements per milking cow- no body said rearing calves was cheap but the milking cow should leave enough more to rear 1.5 replacements and drawings


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    #3220
    whelan2
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    stanflt wrote: »
    The aim next year is to have one female calf to every cow number- so that will be 1.7replacements per milking cow- no body said rearing calves was cheap but the milking cow should leave enough more to rear 1.5 replacements and drawings

    Do you still have the beef cattle?


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    #3221
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    stanflt wrote: »
    The aim next year is to have one female calf to every cow number- so that will be 1.7replacements per milking cow- no body said rearing calves was cheap but the milking cow should leave enough more to rear 1.5 replacements and drawings

    Great if you have the free cash and the land to do
    We're paying someone to rear them, it's a big enough bill every month

    My aim for now is to bring in 20% or less heifers into the herd for a few years to let it mature a bit, loosing out on milk solids with so many young cows


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    #3222
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Do you still have the beef cattle?


    Yeah there going to carry the next generation of the dairy herd- putting them all in calf


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    #3223
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Great if you have the free cash and the land to do
    We're paying someone to rear them, it's a big enough bill every month

    My aim for now is to bring in 20% or less heifers into the herd for a few years to let it mature a bit, loosing out on milk solids with so many young cows

    I’d say it more to Irish genetics than anything


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    #3224
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    stanflt wrote: »
    Good heifer calves are making 7-800 euro

    That's a hard sell Stan even with your stock. 500 seems to be the max for 3 week old heifer calves. You might get more for older ones though. Sold a few calves with good figures and all ai bred.... There's alot of people looking for 400-500 for stock bull heifers. So you never know you could hit 700


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    #3225
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    That's a hard sell Stan even with your stock. 500 seems to be the max for 3 week old heifer calves. You might get more for older ones though. Sold a few calves with good figures and all ai bred.... There's alot of people looking for 400-500 for stock bull heifers. So you never know you could hit 700

    I'll be selling a few, thought 300 would be good, ai bred herd is middle of the road :-)


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    #3226
    Delaval21
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Delaval21


    stanflt wrote: »
    Tbh I think that there is good money in rearing heifer calves and selling the surplus as calved milkers- you’ll have far superior genetics and it allows you to choose the nicer more productive and efficient to keep
    I’m even going serving 40 Angus heifers with the best genetics from my herd

    Are the Angus heifers in calf to FR or are they FR heifers in calf to angus


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    #3227
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Delaval21 wrote: »
    Are the Angus heifers in calf to FR or are they FR heifers in calf to angus

    Angus will carry Fresian


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    #3228
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Delaval21 wrote: »
    Are the Angus heifers in calf to FR or are they FR heifers in calf to angus

    Angus will carry Fresian


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    #3229
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,168 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    stanflt wrote: »
    Angus will carry Fresian

    Carry full freisian or the impending calves will be 3 quarters freisian? Quarter Angus.


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    #3230
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    stanflt wrote: »
    I’d say it more to Irish genetics than anything

    Sorry, don't understand?


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    #3231
    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I presume the aa are incalf with fr. embyo


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    #3232
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I presume the aa are incalf with fr. embyo

    They will be carrying my best genetics- full Holstein


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    #3233
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'll be selling a few, thought 300 would be good, ai bred herd is middle of the road :-)
    That's what I let mine go for deal was done before the start of calving they went at ave 15 days old


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    #3234
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    stanflt wrote: »
    They will be carrying my best genetics- full Holstein

    Why Angus?


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    #3235
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Why Angus?

    I have the Angus maidens that I was going to finish but the opportunity to improve the genetics in the dairy herd has changed their purpose


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    #3236
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,172 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    stanflt wrote: »
    I have the Angus maidens that I was going to finish but the opportunity to improve the genetics in the dairy herd has changed their purpose
    I've often seen freshly calved non dairy bred heifers selling well in marts without a calf a foot and wondered at it. Maybe those heifers were also ET recipients. Best of luck with them.


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    #3237
    farisfat
    Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭farisfat


    stanflt wrote: »
    Agree with you there- calves do better here the sooner you get them on the machine- mine are feed ad lib

    Adlib whole milk or replacer at that age.


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    #3238
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,375 ✭✭✭stanflt


    farisfat wrote: »
    Adlib whole milk or replacer at that age.

    Milk replacer from day 3


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    #3239
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Got the cows earlier in the week for 1 day, cow now with a twisted I think. Does it cause it change in the diet? How do lads avoid it


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    #3240
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    stanflt wrote: »
    Milk replacer from day 3

    If crypto is after getting into your calf rearing facilities you’ll end up feeding them colostrum for 5+ days...then you’ll end up keeping them out of the auto feeder for 12-15 days until they’re out of danger from crypto.
    I hope it doesn’t come to that.


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    #3241
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Got the cows earlier in the week for 1 day, cow now with a twisted I think. Does it cause it change in the diet? How do lads avoid it

    Feed the pre-calvers the milking cow diet for a minimum of 2 weeks before calving. It’s not the perfect solution but it helps a lot.


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