Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Is there anything to be said for another mass?

Covid - it hasn’t gone away you know

Yer man there all sweetness and light, smiling, saying don't react with anger, be optimistic, then goes on to say Covid is only an intro, there are far greater challenges for humanity coming.
Wow, great fun at parties. I can imagine his pep talk would end in tears

Renault 5 wrote: »

It’s not hardman-ism. Kicking the can down the road is finished.

As far as I know. Level 5 was to run to March.

For people like myself and friends and it seem many here, March will be the end.

You do what you feel suits you.

I don’t blame anyone now for taking responsibility back into their own hands come what may.

You're making the argument for not putting dates on a plan.

Tea drinker wrote: »

Yer man there all sweetness and light, smiling, saying don't react with anger, be optimistic, then goes on to say Covid is only an intro, there are far greater challenges for humanity coming.
Wow, great fun at parties. I can imagine his pep talk would end in tears

He was absolutely dreadful. He didn't even try to address people's emotional state if they weren't privileged.

JRant wrote: »

A plan without dates or metrics is little more than a wish list and is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Folks, here's our plan, we may or may not open up certain parts of the country at some time in the future depending on metrics that we can't share with anyone as you were all very naughty little boys and girls months ago.

Maybe you can explain how they can give us these dates or metrics when it has been shown that by giving the dates and metrics that compliance collapses before they are reached.

At best, I expect the sequence of reopening, that's all.

What a cop out. In England, Boris has basically gotten away with extending their lockdown because with it, he released an exit plan and gave the pubic something to work towards and they can start getting excited about living again. Here we get nothing only more of the same, and I feel they won’t even give us any dates or metrics because the dates would be so dire that compliance would fall by the wayside (it is anyway).
It suits them much better to string us along until 5th April, then extend until 5th of May, and so on so forth, same old mumbo jumbo. I’m nearly looking forward to them releasing this “plan” tomorrow and see it backfire spectacularly in their faces. Micheál was all over every news station and newspaper last week parroting on about this plan giving us more “clarity” when without dates it’s about as clear as skid marks.

retro:electro wrote: »

What a cop out. In England, Boris has basically gotten away with extending their lockdown because with it, he released an exit plan and gave the pubic something to work towards and they can start getting excited about living again. Here we get nothing only more of the same, and I feel they won’t even give us any dates or metrics because the dates would be so dire that compliance would fall by the wayside (it is anyway).
It suits them much better to string us along until 5th April, then extend until 5th of May, and so on so forth, same old mumbo jumbo. I’m nearly looking forward to them releasing this “plan” tomorrow and see it backfire spectacularly in their faces. Micheál was all over every news station and newspaper last week parroting on about this plan giving us more “clarity” when without dates it’s about as clear as skid marks.

We can't tear apart a plan before it's even being published yet.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Many have indeed but many stopped after the first two months after the novelty wore off. Controls were largely voluntary at the start but have had to become increasingly punitive to keep people in line. This could've been all over months ago if we collectively stayed in line. We could have had intercounty travel of the population didn't collectively take the piss at Christmas. Now we are all stuck looking at the same 5km because of all those collective decisions, we could have had an open country at this point.

Now, with the end finally in sight, with really only six to eight weeks of this hard grind left have people agitating to make the same mistakes over again. It's almost like they don't want this to end. The mind boggles.

My mind boggles reading this post. People are not robots. Some follow rules better than others. The restrictions should have taken into account human behaviour. It’s not the fault of the public that NPHET and the government are unable to do this.

This is a HIGHLY contagious virus. When restrictions lighten cases go up even when the rules are followed. Humans are social animals and social distancing and restrictions mean this social need is not being met. Therefore when cases go down restrictions ease off. Zoom etc are a poor substitute for a face to face conversation with a friend.

I am seeing so many mention on here the last few days about compliance falling etc. What does that actually mean though?

Do people think breaking restrictions or ''sticking it to the man'' is going to change anything? It's only giving the likes of NPHET more to punish us with.
Every time the cases go up or more people die it's all the public's fault sure.

Look im ****ing sick of it meself but there's **** all anyone can do about it unless ALOT of people stand up together and they won't this is Ireland ffs all fart and no ****e.

We can make the choice to go spend time with family or friends but realistically that's all we have got because everything else is out of our control.
Even then that's not even fully under our control either if you don't live close to family you run the risk of being fined.


The Irish people won't do what other nations do and stand together and stand up to things because it's not who we are so were stuck in this situation until they let us out. Just accept it at this stage.

Turtwig wrote: »

He was absolutely dreadful. He didn't even try to address people's emotional state if they weren't privileged.

Had to turn that prick off

mcburns07 wrote: »

Take a look around you, compliance with measures is clearly directly related to 1. How long those measures have been in place 2. Self preservation

Vaccine research is pretty black and white. Studying people’s compliance with measures is very ambiguous and not easy to measure accurately.

Lots of things are challenging to measure accurately. That's doesn't mean it can't be done. You have not read the research and just dismissed it offhand. Maybe there are silly assumptions made in it? Maybe not.

Vaccine research isn't black or white. Nothing is rarely binary.