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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #9602
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,232 ✭✭✭prunudo


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Yep, you can see it happening all around now. I don't see any businesses reopening against restrictions but anywhere there's a grey area it will likely be taken advantage of.

    And unfortunately its the household meet ups that can lead to the virus spreading not the likes of non essential retail and hairdressing.


  • #9603
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Are they keeping click and collect closed? Sure that’s great for Irish businesses vs Amazon.


  • #9604
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    nj27 wrote: »
    If you were to set out to annoy people rather than to get cases down you'd probably arrive at something along the lines of the Irish government's plan.

    Well in that regard you have to admire the consistency in their desire to piss off the public.


  • #9605
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The people running this country, High level health Officials, Government, Media are reprehensible. All sociopaths.


  • #9606
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I would caution ppl to be very very wary when it comes to anything Johnson says

    If something he says sounds too good to be true, then...


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  • #9607
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    This will be hard to take tomorrow!!

    “ The Government’s new Living with Covid-19 Plan is expected to contain very little good news for the public with ministers and their advisers insisting they will not offer any clarity on when restrictions will be ease”

    What an absolutely galling thing to say!

    https://m.independent.ie/news/level-5-restrictions-until-at-least-april-5-under-governments-new-living-with-covid-19-plan-40121193.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=seeding&fbclid=IwAR2QyrVSBzOPA0tmZogbxLPQJdM8VylWIpHvQPx4T7lTx6UfTYPLFJ_uPYs

    If you read the whole article it says exactly what I have repeatedly posted on this thread. The giving of dates as targets has been shown to cause adherence to the restrictions to fall.

    They are not fully to give dates if by giving them out sets the plan back. It's that simple. Politically it would be appealing if they could, but at least they are mature enough to recognise they can't.

    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.


  • #9608
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Well in that regard you have to admire the consistency in their desire to piss off the public.

    Donnelly is a muppet! They’ve set out no plan, none whatsoever!!! NONE!!! Imbeciles!!!


  • #9609
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    darem93 wrote: »
    There is going to be absolute uproar tomorrow and rightfully so at this point.

    What an utterly depressing state of affairs.

    Why is there going to be “absolute uproar” tomorrow?


  • #9610
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Donnelly is a muppet! They’ve set out no plan, none whatsoever!!! NONE!!! Imbeciles!!!

    And now the schools might not be opening next Monday!!!!


  • #9611
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    If you read the whole article it says exactly what I have repeatedly posted on this thread. The giving of dates as targets has been shown to cause adherence to the restrictions to fall.

    They are not fully to give dates if by giving them out sets the plan back. It's that simple. Politically it would be appealing if they could, but at least they are mature enough to recognise they can't.

    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.

    Ah come off it!! So you think the population is stupid? Off with you! Shocking statement


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  • #9612
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Donnelly is a muppet! They’ve set out no plan, none whatsoever!!! NONE!!! Imbeciles!!!

    And all they needed to do was to dust down last year’s opening up plan...throw in dates. Caveat them with vaccination metrics, daily cases, hospital numbers etc....


  • #9613
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    If the vaccine effectiveness is to be believed, in the next few weeks the hospitals will be empty, the case numbers will be in double digits.

    Why not just say we'll preliminary add a week onto March 8th and see what happens over the next couple of weeks. No. Mid April. And we'll tell the media first.


  • #9614
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    We are an embarrassment of a nation. The plan is........ No plan.


  • #9615
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    UK clubland has gone absolutely nuts... I know a few promoters and they are currently all ringing each other to make sure that events scheduled after their lockdown ends on the 21st June won't clash with each other. DJ bookings have gone ballistic all of a sudden.

    I really hope it works for them but the country has gotten extremely excited extremely quickly and its going to be an absolute car crash if it goes wrong.

    Don’t put anything past boris....

    Loves to BS and make false promises for a bit of short term popularity


  • #9616
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    MrMusician18 wrote: »

    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.

    Will you be emigrating when travel restrictions are lifted , although I believe emigration is deemed essential travel. It must be soul destroying for you to be the only intelligent person in the country. Pray tell where will you go?


  • #9617
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    If you read the whole article it says exactly what I have repeatedly posted on this thread. The giving of dates as targets has been shown to cause adherence to the restrictions to fall.

    They are not fully to give dates if by giving them out sets the plan back. It's that simple. Politically it would be appealing if they could, but at least they are mature enough to recognise they can't.

    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.

    Last May the cases continued to go down. I disagree with that assertion.


  • #9618
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    The people running this country, High level health Officials, Government, Media are reprehensible. All sociopaths.
    I don't think you know what a sociopath is, but it sounds edgy, right?


  • #9619
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    What the hell were they doing in that meeting? Playing snakes and ladders? Making prank phone calls? Lighting their farts? Talking about boobies? Anything but coming up with any sort of plan anyway the shower of dopes


  • #9620
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    If you read the whole article it says exactly what I have repeatedly posted on this thread. The giving of dates as targets has been shown to cause adherence to the restrictions to fall.

    They are not fully to give dates if by giving them out sets the plan back. It's that simple. Politically it would be appealing if they could, but at least they are mature enough to recognise they can't.

    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.

    Agree in principle. Calling the population stupid is a bit much. So many have sacrificed so much and committed an unbelievable amount of effort.


  • #9621
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Don’t put anything past boris....

    Loves to BS and make false promises for a bit of short term popularity

    Political suicide if the U.K. plan doesn’t come to fruition! Irreversible is the term BJ used a good bit! I can’t see them fuçking this up!


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  • #9622
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    retro:electro wrote: »
    What the hell were they doing in that meeting? Playing snakes and ladders? Making prank phone calls? Lighting their farts? Anything but coming up with any sort of plan anyway the shower of dopes

    The plan is to be published/announced tomorrow. Donnelly said that a number of times


  • #9623
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Don’t put anything past boris....

    Loves to BS and make false promises for a bit of short term popularity

    So have you had a chance to read the reports about the effectiveness of the vaccine rollout in the UK that has shown to reduce transmission and hospitalisations? Their roadmap is based on the successful rollout of their vaccination programme. Boris gets to announce the messages he ain't sticking needles in people's arms or writing the reports.


  • #9624
    Kha1993
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭Kha1993


    Typical Micheal Martin. He and government know that it’s Level 5 to May. So leak it to the media. Get pushback. Genius advisor tells him just say it’s til April. Less anger. Then come April, add on your 4 weeks. Hope for less anger.

    This plan might work. People might fall for it. Some won’t. But what it shows is the absolute contempt government are treating the people with now. It’s like a game to them. How can they come out of this with their seats safe for next election is what they’re concerned about. BS.


  • #9625
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Agree in principle. Calling the population stupid is a bit much. So many have sacrificed so much and committed an unbelievable amount of effort.

    It makes a change from calling people animals.


  • #9626
    fm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭fm


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    If you read the whole article it says exactly what I have repeatedly posted on this thread. The giving of dates as targets has been shown to cause adherence to the restrictions to fall.

    They are not fully to give dates if by giving them out sets the plan back. It's that simple. Politically it would be appealing if they could, but at least they are mature enough to recognise they can't.


    If the population wasn't collectively so stupid and selfish they might be able to give us a timeline.

    So the population are stupid and selfish except you I suppose or are you part of the population at all?


  • #9627
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Political suicide if the U.K. plan doesn’t come to fruition! Irreversible is the term BJ used a good bit! I can’t see them fuçking this up!

    Political suicide? He already has one of the worst death rates in the world with this damn virus. He is shameless, and utterly untrustworthy

    I would just caution ppl to be very very wary of his pronouncements.

    Wouldn’t be below massaging/ tweaking the data in order to get a bit of short term popularity ...just be aware...and vigilant.


  • #9628
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    The plan is to be published/announced tomorrow. Donnelly said that a number of times

    Without metrics, dates, something to strive for, there is no plan.


  • #9629
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    If boris is offered the full euros, he'll see through step 4 to it's conclusion. But if not, I can see him delaying it till the majority have received a first dose. People will accept it because they've gotten 75% of what they have been promised.


  • #9630
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    retro:electro wrote: »
    What the hell were they doing in that meeting? Playing snakes and ladders? Making prank phone calls? Lighting their farts? Talking about boobies? Anything but coming up with any sort of plan anyway the shower of dopes

    They had to wake Eamon a few times and I believe they spent an hour trying to wrestle Leo's phone out of his hands. ( Joke btw ,this may not have happened)


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  • #9631
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Without metrics, dates, something to strive for, there is no plan.

    Donnelly has said the update will be announced tomorrow.


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