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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #6992
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Positive Swab count the last 5 Wednesdays.

    Jan 20 - 2786
    Jan 27 - 1668
    Feb 3 - 1204
    Feb 10 - 1096
    Feb 17 - 938


  • #6993
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    Not counting historical cases. On May 18th the 5 day average on cases was 119 per day and the 7 day average was 129.

    Another thing to note was testing.

    May 12th to May 18th - 36,818 tests were carried out. Compared to now 110,462 in the last 7 days.

    Doesn't this just show that mass testing detects more cases, but it doesn't affect hospitalistions.

    More cases doesn't necessarily mean disaster.


  • #6994
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Ficheall wrote: »
    But less than 1 is less than 1% of 750...

    Yeah and Is it free money? (doesn't have to be paid back)
    That's better than bonds.


  • #6995
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Doesn't this just show that mass testing detects more cases, but it doesn't affect hospitalistions.

    More cases doesn't necessarily mean disaster.

    No. It primarily shows more demand for testing due to us having a significantly larger infection at the moment.


  • #6996
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I don't remember Irish media reporting on discovery of potential covid cure in Israel

    https://www.cityam.com/israeli-hospital-says-it-may-have-found-covid-19-cure-as-all-treated-patients-make-full-recovery/

    Or this medicine from Eli Lilly treating covid, that's been recently ordered by some countries here in Europe. And is on the way right now at this moment. It's also pretty expensive.

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-reviewing-data-monoclonal-antibody-use-covid-19


    Instead it's all just vaccines vaccines vaccines and new cases. Seems like nothing else. Running in circles.

    Or this kind of stuff... articles about somebody's moaning wife and somebody ordering a kebab. Ridiculous. Gotta love the small island mentality.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/i-have-realised-during-lockdown-that-i-don-t-like-my-wife-1.4479208

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/sean-moncrieff-friday-night-takeaway-has-become-the-highlight-of-my-week-1.4473165


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  • #6997
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    No. It primarily shows more demand for testing due to us having a significantly larger infection at the moment.

    We hadn't a capacity to test as many back then and we had clearly a much bigger case load in the 1st wave than what was reported.


  • #6998
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    I don't remember Irish media reporting on discovery of potential covid cure in Israel

    https://www.cityam.com/israeli-hospital-says-it-may-have-found-covid-19-cure-as-all-treated-patients-make-full-recovery/

    Or this medicine from Eli Lilly treating covid, that's been recently ordered by some countries here in Europe. And is on the way right now at this moment. It's also pretty expensive.

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-reviewing-data-monoclonal-antibody-use-covid-19


    Instead it's all just vaccines vaccines vaccines and new cases. Seems like nothing else. Running in circles.

    Or this kind of stuff... articles about somebody's moaning wife and somebody ordering a kebab. Ridiculous. Gotta love the small island mentality.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/i-have-realised-during-lockdown-that-i-don-t-like-my-wife-1.4479208

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/sean-moncrieff-friday-night-takeaway-has-become-the-highlight-of-my-week-1.4473165

    All the current monoclonal treatments fail against one or more of the variants. The Israeli drug is not even at Phase III yet.


  • #6999
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    is_that_so wrote: »
    All the current monoclonal treatments fail against one or more of the variants. The Israeli drug is not even at Phase III yet.

    well the point is that the Irish media won't even mention this. All they feed us is garbage.


  • #7000
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    well the point is that the Irish media won't even mention this. All they feed us is garbage.
    Yeah, most of the time you have to go to specialist sites or journals to get information. Some news sources have been good; NY Times and Guardian in particular for me.


  • #7001
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    blowitupref wrote: »
    We hadn't a capacity to test as many back then and we had clearly a much bigger case load in the 1st wave than what was reported.

    Yes, I don't know why people keep trying to compare swabs/cases from back then. Maybe someone people don't remember, but we got it a lot better now - back in May we were doing 1/4 of the tests we do now, test turnaround was ~3 days etc...
    What we can compare (mostly) is deaths, cases in hospitals and cases in ICUs. On May 16 we had 56 people in ICU and 688 possible cases in hospitals (almost 300 of those "suspected"! There was barely any capacity to actually test all the people in hospital).

    Positivity rate was lower on May 18, at around 2.5%, but we were doing around 30/40k tests even with a positivity rate much higher, and it actually dropped from the 5.8% on May 2

    Also it's a shame that there isn't any decent (that I know off) archive of all the numbers, and one have to hunt down old articles.


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  • #7002
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    blowitupref wrote: »
    We hadn't a capacity to test as many back then and we had clearly a much bigger case load in the 1st wave than what was reported.

    I did a few sums.

    First covid death we had was 11th March
    On 31 May (end of first wave in or around) we had 1652 deaths.
    11 and a half weeks.

    (This is 1.6 times longer than 7 weeks).

    On 30th December 2020 we had 2226 deaths and today we have 3980.
    7 weeks and 1750 deaths.

    The second wave was worse.


  • #7003
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    Yes, I don't know why people keep trying to compare swabs/cases from back then. Maybe someone people don't remember, but we got it a lot better now - back in May we were doing 1/4 of the tests we do now, test turnaround was ~3 days etc...
    What we can compare (mostly) is deaths, cases in hospitals and cases in ICUs. On May 16 we had 56 people in ICU and 688 possible cases in hospitals (almost 300 of those "suspected"! There was barely any capacity to actually test all the people in hospital).

    Also it's a shame that there isn't any decent (that I know off) archive of all the numbers, and one have to hunt down old articles.

    I'm looking at the data right now. Everything you just said is wrong.


  • #7004
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BBCHughPym/status/1361981207706292225
    This is the thing that has p*****d me off the most during this whole thing.

    We know that outdoors is safer, but it's easy to shame people who are outdoors because we can all see them. There is little evidence that any outdoor gatherings have caused much, if any, spread of the virus. The curtain twitchers are shouting at people going for a hike on a mountain, people in parks, and the guards were stopping families in cars heading to the beach - all this effort to be seen to do something while there were house parties and big funerals going on across the country causing enormous outbreaks. We're heading into a few more months of restrictions and we still haven't bothered figuring out a way to allow restaurants open outdoor dining - with everyone wondering when indoors will open.

    From the very start we should have been promoting outdoors with a virus which is airborne. Golf, tennis, outdoors dining, outdoor pubs, hiking, cycling, standing in a garden chatting to your neighbours, swimming, visiting a park.


  • #7005
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I believe that beaches, 5km, no golf, no tennis, that kind of stuff has really no basis in terms of covid containment.

    The Belgian health minister has admitted that non-essential retail and above was only done for the shock effect. To drive home the seriousness of the situation.

    No doubt in my mind there is similar stuff going on here. For the shock effect, for the in-this-together.


  • #7006
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭jackboy


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    I believe that beaches, 5km, no golf, no tennis, that kind of stuff has really no basis in terms of covid containment.

    The Belgian health minister has admitted that non-essential retail and above was only done for the shock effect. To drive home the seriousness of the situation.

    No doubt in my mind there is similar stuff going on here. For the shock effect, for the in-this-together.

    True enough. Anyone with half a brain knows these things have no significant impact on spread of the virus.


  • #7007
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    650 new cases

    57 deaths, 1 from November, 1 from December, 21 January, 34 February


  • #7008
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭UsBus


    650 cases
    57 deaths


  • #7009
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Passed 4K deaths now.


  • #7010
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I did a few sums.

    First covid death we had was 11th March
    On 31 May (end of first wave in or around) we had 1652 deaths.
    11 and a half weeks.

    (This is 1.6 times longer than 7 weeks).

    On 30th December 2020 we had 2226 deaths and today we have 3980.
    7 weeks and 1750 deaths.

    The second wave was worse.

    Worth taking into account that most of not all of those that died of or with Covid are reported now.

    While I'm sure we had plenty that died in early part of the first wave that didn't know they had covid as they weren't tested for it.


  • #7011
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭gally74


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    I believe that beaches, 5km, no golf, no tennis, that kind of stuff has really no basis in terms of covid containment.

    The Belgian health minister has admitted that non-essential retail and above was only done for the shock effect. To drive home the seriousness of the situation.

    No doubt in my mind there is similar stuff going on here. For the shock effect, for the in-this-together.

    Brother lives in Belgium, their 2nd wave was v bad, but schools opened since Christmas, kids at soccer training and swimming, retail is open,,,,,, and COVID cases same as us..,

    Something doesn’t add up, I never thought retail was an issue here or the schools, the construction piece is just madness.


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  • #7012
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    “Almost 90% of cases in Ireland are the B117 variant. The increased transmissibility of this variant is apparent in the current profile of the disease in households”

    -
    @ronan_glynn
    says 1 in 3 household contacts are now testing positive for COVID-19


  • #7013
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,619 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    650 new cases

    57 deaths, 1 from November, 1 from December, 21 January, 34 February

    RIP, deaths still high :(
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #7014
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    RIP

    That's a super case figure but a lot lower than swabs today

    Might lead to a bit of a backlog but great progress


  • #7015
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,619 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    “Almost 90% of cases in Ireland are the B117 variant. The increased transmissibility of this variant is apparent in the current profile of the disease in households”
    -
    @ronan_glynn
    says 1 in 3 household contacts are now testing positive for COVID-19

    What variant strain is that?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #7016
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    “Almost 90% of cases in Ireland are the B117 variant. The increased transmissibility of this variant is apparent in the current profile of the disease in households”

    -
    @ronan_glynn
    says 1 in 3 household contacts are now testing positive for COVID-19

    See this bugs me, they tell people to stay at home and then flag up household contacts testing positive... well that's what happens when your telling people to stay at home but 1 person brings it into the house.

    More transmissible or not, the weather's been crap and people are indoors


  • #7017
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    What variant strain is that?
    The UK one from Kent. Vaccines are effective against it.


  • #7018
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    RIP

    That's a super case figure but a lot lower than swabs today

    Might lead to a bit of a backlog but great progress

    Will you stop it with the backlogs?! :D


  • #7019
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    See this bugs me, they tell people to stay at home and then flag up household contacts testing positive... well that's what happens when your telling people to stay at home but 1 person brings it into the house.

    And I still dont believe a word about the increased transmission rate of the variant.
    I tried to hunt it down on google and when it comes down to how they actually make that up methodology wise I swear I wondered did they guy who wrote the article even understand what they were saying. Call me ignorant - maybe I am - but I call BS on that all the way.


  • #7020
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    See this bugs me, they tell people to stay at home and then flag up household contacts testing positive... well that's what happens when your telling people to stay at home but 1 person brings it into the house.

    More transmissible or not, the weather's been crap and people are indoors

    The point here isn't to chatise people for their household contact. Glynn is merely trying to illustrate how the new variant is more transmissible.


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  • #7021
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The point here isn't to chatise people for their household contact. Glynn is merely trying to illustrate how the new variant is more transmissible.

    Never said it was, wouldn't chatise anyone like that.

    The point is its the time of year anyway when people spend more time at home. More time at home is more time indoors hence better chance of picking it up if someone is unfortunate enough to bring it home.

    More transmissible or not more people are spending more time indoors which can increase close contacts in the home.

    It's just something else to think about really, nothing more nothing less.


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